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Spaceman Future! posted:The disturbing part is that we will never ever build protections in against ultra wealthy douchebags treating the entire country as their own personal ant farm. Well not us but the French did develop something 
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haveblue posted:I agree, their influence over President Romney has been a disaster for this country. The Koch brothers prefer to do their damage at the county level and obstruction at the federal level. crap like this: quote:The Colorado chapter of Americans for Prosperity is running television ads to support candidates who will continue the district's current path. AFP is an advocacy group founded by billionaire David Koch that has Tea Party ties. Koch and his brother Charles, co-owners of Koch Industries, have been major contributors to the organization. Is happening all over the country this very second. Stow the sarcasm man its a problem.
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Apr 1, 2015 15:26
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The Midwest is about to find itself much poorer than before once every pro LGBT sponsor heads for the hills. I think.
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Apr 1, 2015 15:30
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Is there a Rainbow Belt? Something similar to the Rust Belt and Bible Belt.
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Spaceman Future! posted:Our entire political system is structured in a way that assumes that monetary corruption can not be limitless in scope, the founders just assumed that no one could consolidate that much influence.
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MacheteZombie posted:Is there a Rainbow Belt? Yeah, and like a rainbow it starts in the west coast, arches over the entire country and lands somewhere in the northeast.
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Apr 1, 2015 15:36
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Don't forget, Indiana also just convicted a woman of killing her fetus when she tried to commit suicide: http://www.wncn.com/story/28664509/first-woman-in-us-sentenced-for-killing-a-fetus
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Spaceman Future! posted:Yeah, and like a rainbow it starts in the west coast, arches over the entire country and lands somewhere in the northeast. Fire Island.
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Apr 1, 2015 15:41
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CommieGIR posted:Don't forget, Indiana also just convicted a woman of killing her fetus when she tried to commit suicide: loving christ, Indiana is apparently an even bigger shithole than I thought.
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Xibanya posted:I posted this in the last thread but it was buried under a sea of dorks telling boring 9/11 stories. This kind of stuff always brings an old Bill Hicks routine to mind, where he was talking about the LAPD cops that beat Rodney King having balls so big they needed a wheelbarrow to carry them around.
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I would like to remind USPol that government staff are just doing their jobs generally speaking. So while I no longer fly because I don't agree with or enjoy the expanded duties and absurdities of the TSA when I can avoid it, hypthoethicals about how you cure the anti government dysfunctionality cancer should begin with how you eliminate poisonous policy. Right now I'm watching citizens in my own municipality complain that we aren't building out fiber to encourage economic development and refusing to hear that its illegal in Washington state to sell to end users thanks to telecom lobbying so obviously city government deliberately hides and obfuscates bidding contracts so we can screw ourselves over. Government corruption requires public compliance and complatancy to exist E:/OK it doesn't require it but it sure makes it more possible than otherwise. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Apr 1, 2015 15:52
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CommieGIR posted:Don't forget, Indiana also just convicted a woman of killing her fetus when she tried to commit suicide: 20 years. This is loving infuriating.
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duz posted:Not linking to the full post in the March thread since it's locked and won't let me, but re: this What's annoying is most stories covering this have buried the lede in favor of "look at the rude response he sent!" I mean, that looks like a cheeky automated out of the office response to me. Watch people cry about the death of civility and ignore the undue influence money has on decision-making.
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RuanGacho posted:Government corruption requires public compliance and complatancy to exist. Government Corruption would exist otherwise, its to what level it would exist that would change. But most government corruption now is driven more by Citizens United and complacency than anything else.
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Looks like a business is choosing to use the not-at-all-discriminatory Indiana RFRA to discriminate.quote:“If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no,” says Crystal O'Connor of Memories Pizza. Sorry, the gays of Walkerton, Indiana, you will not be able to cater your weddings with pizza.
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mcmagic posted:20 years. This is loving infuriating. What's most infuriating is that any woman can miscarry, but they clearly believe that this simply doesn't happen to "good people." If they did, they would be afraid of losing their wives and daughters. Of course, ignorance of female biology doesn't surprise me. This is from the party that brought you that rear end in a top hat who thought you could observe a woman's uterus by having her swallow a camera.
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duz posted:Not linking to the full post in the March thread since it's locked and won't let me, but re: this Oh, internet outrage brigades. Woman sends corporate spam email to every legislator in Kansas, gets reddit to spin up to 11 when one of them tells her to gently caress off.
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Xibanya posted:This is from the party that brought you that rear end in a top hat who thought you could observe a woman's uterus by having her swallow a camera. This is from the party that we had to make a website for this: http://www.dayswithoutagoprapemention.com/ 
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The original title of this article was Why I Won't Vote for Obama AG nominee Loretta Lynch: Opinion from Rep. Gary Palmer, R-AL, Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-SC, Rep. Trent Franks, R-Az., Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., and Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas. Surprisingly, the article contained more text than simply, "Because I am a member of the US House and we don't vote on nominations.
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CommieGIR posted:Government Corruption would exist otherwise, its to what level it would exist that would change. What gets me to work every day is each day is o e step closer to unimpeachable transparency and information sharing. If I can get past the threshhold where I can defend existing processes to be in the public interest before all else, empiricism will rule  Also a pony.
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Joementum posted:Looks like a business is choosing to use the not-at-all-discriminatory Indiana RFRA to discriminate. I'm planning my wedding with my fiancee and I don't think we've ever been asked what kind of couple we are. I mean we're a straight couple, but when I've called places no one has asked, "are you one of them gay couples?" So is this pizza place doing that? To every customer? Seems like bad business. "Thank you for calling Memories Pizza, May I take your order, unless your gay?"
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Joementum posted:The original title of this article was Why I Won't Vote for Obama AG nominee Loretta Lynch: Opinion from Rep. Gary Palmer, R-AL, Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-SC, Rep. Trent Franks, R-Az., Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., and Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas. why they continued to write past quote:As members of the U.S. House of Representatives we recognize that the power to consent on executive branch nominees resides in the Senate. The Senate also has the power, indeed, the obligation to reject those nominees unfit for service. is wondered by all
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MacheteZombie posted:I'm planning my wedding with my fiancee and I don't think we've ever been asked what kind of couple we are. I mean we're a straight couple, but when I've called places no one has asked, "are you one of them gay couples?" I imagine the proprietors of Memories Pizza think all gay people talk like Paul Lynnde.
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Joementum posted:The original title of this article was Why I Won't Vote for Obama AG nominee Loretta Lynch: Opinion from Rep. Gary Palmer, R-AL, Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-SC, Rep. Trent Franks, R-Az., Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., and Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas.
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I suppose one positive outcome of this is that some businesses that are both hateful and dumb enough to put up like "NO FAGGOTS" signs in their windows or something will go out of business.
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Monkey Fracas posted:I suppose one positive outcome of this is that some businesses that are both hateful and dumb enough to put up like "NO FAGGOTS" signs in their windows or something will go out of business. Seriously, just add an amendment to the law that requires business who wish to discriminate to have a sign. And watch them burn to the ground.
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MacheteZombie posted:I'm planning my wedding with my fiancee and I don't think we've ever been asked what kind of couple we are. I mean we're a straight couple, but when I've called places no one has asked, "are you one of them gay couples?" What would happen is that they'd accept a customer at first, then halfway through the planning process they'd discover that it's a same-sex ceremony and abruptly drop out. That's what happened in the case with the photographer who was (almost) hired to cover a lesbian wedding and started the push for laws like this. e: Also, their yelp page is now a wasteland of one-star ratings and gay porn. haveblue fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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haveblue posted:
They have large influence over 2 branches of government currently and they also have an effective GOTV operation that keeps getting better every year. Just poorly run democratic presidential campaign away from GOP controlling all 3 branches in which the Koch brothers organization will have enormous influence over due to their organizations money, GOTV and full-time status. They can almost certainly tell a lot of house members "we will unelect you if you don't do this" as it is. And even though their state level success percentage is low ALEC / Americans for Prosperity will probably have some luck at the national level if all 3 branches are GOP.
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CommieGIR posted:Seriously, just add an amendment to the law that requires business who wish to discriminate to have a sign. Hopefully literally. 
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I would be very surprised if this bill isn't neutered into zero effect or repealed in the upcoming days. I don't think supporters thought that there would be this much backlash.
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CommieGIR posted:Seriously, just add an amendment to the law that requires business who wish to discriminate to have a sign. You're implying that businesses that explicitly discriminate would fold when I think that the opposite would happen. Remember chik fil a?
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Monkey Fracas posted:I suppose one positive outcome of this is that some businesses that are both hateful and dumb enough to put up like "NO FAGGOTS" signs in their windows or something will go out of business. http://www.yelp.com/biz/memories-pizza-walkerton Edit: NSFW has crept in since posting the link. Cheesus fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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His Purple Majesty posted:You're implying that businesses that explicitly discriminate would fold when I think that the opposite would happen. Remember chik fil a? Chik Fil A managed because they had a fig leaf of using profit any way they liked. They weren't banning anyone from their service. Putting up a "No Gays" sign? That likely would have gone really differently. Sure, the same kind of hicks would have been all over it, but then they're out in public with their bigotry. Name and shame. Destroy all credibility of open racists or homophobes in polite society.
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Cheesus posted:Do bad Yelp reviews help with this process? This is about the most NWS page of pizza reviews I have ever seen.
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His Purple Majesty posted:You're implying that businesses that explicitly discriminate would fold when I think that the opposite would happen. Remember chik fil a? Chic Fil A still largely caved (or spent more timing hiding its donations to groups like the AFA and others) publicly. They just did it as quietly as possible. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Grouchio posted:The Midwest is about to find itself much poorer than before once every pro LGBT sponsor heads for the hills. I think. midwestern leadership is cool with this because white poverty breeds Republicanism.
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Joementum posted:Looks like a business is choosing to use the not-at-all-discriminatory Indiana RFRA to discriminate. RawStory has a picture of the owner. She is basically indiana.jpeg CommieGIR posted:Seriously, just add an amendment to the law that requires business who wish to discriminate to have a sign. Basically, you are underestimating how hateful people are.
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CommieGIR posted:Chic Fil A still largely caved (or spent more timing hiding its donations to groups like the AFA and others) publicly. The damage is already done there, they limited their franchise expansion opportunities in quite a few areas with that crap which is long term death for a chain like that. Its going to take long enough to affect them and they are doing well enough right now that most people probably wont associate the two but I would be surprised in 20 years if that is a brand that still exists in any capacity more than say White Castle.
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zoux posted:I would be very surprised if this bill isn't neutered into zero effect or repealed in the upcoming days. I don't think supporters thought that there would be this much backlash. My bet is a superficial "clarification" that doesn't change the discriminatory nature of the law.
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Fried Chicken posted:They posted signs in Jim Crow south. Notice how that turned out. And if you want to argue it's different, consider Chik-fil-a being unambiguous about their hate and consider how that ended up. Again, Chic Fil A quietly said they were withdrawing support and funding for groups like the AFA and others. While I'm sure they are still donating under the table, their latest financial transparency reports show them only funding their own Foundations and no others. They did it as quietly as possible so as not to spook the Conservative crowd that was throwing money at them. And Jim Crow still eventually got wiped out.
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