USPol April: Posting Cafe & Bakery (NOTE: Baby-killing gays need not apply)

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > USPol April: Posting Cafe & Bakery (NOTE: Baby-killing gays need not apply)

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Joementum posted:

The original title of this article was Why I Won't Vote for Obama AG nominee Loretta Lynch: Opinion from Rep. Gary Palmer, R-AL, Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-SC, Rep. Trent Franks, R-Az., Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo., Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., and Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas.

Surprisingly, the article contained more text than simply, "Because I am a member of the US House and we don't vote on nominations.

Apparently the big 2015 GOP thing is "ignore the separation of powers"!

# ¿ Apr 1, 2015 16:03

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:23

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

I thought I'd drop a little local shenanigans here.

Ernie Chambers is north Omaha's Senator, and has been since 1971. He was big in the north Omaha community prior to that, and did a lot to champion civil rights for black Nebraskans.

A few weeks ago, in some committee meeting he said "my ISIS is the police," in response to someone who said, no poo poo, ISIS is a reason to expand gun carry rights in Nebraska. Chambers' response was characteristically Chambers.

quote:

My ISIS is the police. And you know what the county attorney said, Don Kleine: If the officer makes a mistake, if he's wrong but he had reason to think that he was right, then he's clear. I cannot get away with that and shoot you and say, well, I thought he was going to do something. They say, uh-uh, buddy, that doesn't work. Well, now we presume that these officers are trained. To show how little their training means and how they hide behind it, some guy out east was fired because he was dealing with a guy who had a mental problem and wound up...he was on duty, shot the guy 14 times, and he was fired. Now he's trying to get his job back. And you know what the lawyer is arguing? And he's justified in view of the not finding any fault in what these cops are doing. He said, yes, he shot the man 14 times, but it was within his training. So now, if the police are trained to shoot somebody in the back, then the cop who shoots in the back says, it was pursuant to my training, and he's home free. That's what's happening. I would tell young people: If you tell somebody to go across the world to fight for ISIS, they can put you in jail if you just talk about it. If you want to fight injustice, don't...you don't have to go around the world to find the ISIS mentality. Your ISIS is in America and you're likely to die over there, one way or the other. So if you're going to die, die making your home safe. My home is not threatened by ISIS. Mine is threatened by the police. The police are licensed to kill us, children, old people. They showed a guy on a highway. The highway trooper, he had this elderly black woman down on the ground, just beating the stew out of her, and nothing was done to him. That's what I see. Now suppose somebody told me somebody from ISIS did that. Then everybody is up in arms: See what cowards they are? They beat women in broad daylight. But when a cop does it, it's all right. I don't feel that way. And if I were going to do something--but I'm not a man of violence--I wouldn't go to Syria, I wouldn't go to Iraq, I wouldn't go to Afghanistan, I wouldn't go to Yemen, I wouldn't go to Tunisia, I wouldn't go to Lebanon, I wouldn't go to Jordan. I would do it right here. Nobody from ISIS ever terrorized us as a people, as the police do daily. And they get away with it and they've been given the license now. And people don't like me to say this. Then you rein in your cops. And you know what they say, the racism of the cops is merely reflective of the racism in this society and they accept the existence of racism to excuse the cop. But then when I say there is racism in the society, they say, you're playing the race card, you're talking about it makes it happen. But when they want to justify the cop, they say, he's merely reflective of the community where there is white racism. And that's what I look...you don't have to deal with that. You're privileged. You're free of that. You don't have to think about it every day. If I was going to carry a weapon, it wouldn't be against you, it wouldn't be against these people who come here that I might have a dispute with. Mine would be for the police. And if I carried a gun, I'd want to shoot him first and then ask questions later, like they say the cop ought to do.

He has, if you may gather, not apologized, and in fact doubled down. There's now a ton of weird procedural slapfights going on over this, and I would just recommend the Nebraska Republicans drop it because if anyone knows the legislative arcana, it's Ernie Chambers who is probably going to try to make everyone's lives a living hell until they stop their mad crusade to get him to apologize for something he is clearly never going to apologize for (he in fact just sang in front of the Unicameral and delayed a bunch of bills in retaliation for retaliation against him).

Local politics :downs:

# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 19:47

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Bobby Digital posted:

Ernie Chambers is a state treasure.

He deserves his own statue in the Hall of Famous Nebraskans.

They can include him and Malcolm X while they're at it :colbert:

# ¿ Apr 4, 2015 20:27

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

mdemone posted:

Build a goddamned statue of that man. How have I never heard of him before?

I hope they keep asking him about it forever.

Fun fact: they passed a term limit law designed to get him out of office a few years ago, which actually replaced a lot of older Senators.

He took a term off, ran again, and won in a landslide. So not only did it not work, a lot of the people that knew him and worked with him, Republicans and Democrats alike, were gone. Now it's a bunch of tea partiers getting slapped by a guy who's been in the Unicameral for two generations.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 00:23

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

My Imaginary GF posted:

How much does a dollar spent in EBT generate in tax revenue?

Well the business is taxed on net profit so however much EBT contributes to that :v:

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 20:02

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

mdemone posted:

I'm a little worried because Bill Kristol appears to have said something that will not turn out to have been wrong. My world is crumbling.

Bring me the latest tweet of Dick Morris, that I may be soothed again.

http://www.dickmorris.com/iran-deal-holocaust-in-2026/

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 23:33

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

My Imaginary GF posted:

Thing is, it doesn't matter how much in economic activity it generates. Thats such an aughties way of thinking. Is it revenue neutral?

Austerity now.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2015 17:26

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

My Imaginary GF posted:

Yes, those are the voters.

Look at nonwhite turnout throughout America. Its like folks don't even want to prevent cuts in foodstamps.

Perhaps they're too busy working while living in states where they're actively trying to suppress minority voting :monocle:

# ¿ Apr 8, 2015 17:36

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

America, y'all.

http://www.kmov.com/story/28745448/former-ferguson-city-court-clerk-who-sent-racist-emails-speaks-out

quote:

FERGUSON, Mo. (KMOV.com) - Former Ferguson City Court Clerk Mary Ann Twitty spoke to News 4 for the first time since being fired for sending racist emails.

Twitty was fired in early March after the Justice Department investigation into the city's law enforcement practices. Two police officers, Capt. Rick Henke and Sgt. William Mudd, also resigned after the investigation. The investigation revealed that all three former employees sent racist emails. Twitty said she found the emails to be funny, but not because of their racial nature.

�Funny as in humor wise? Yes. Not because it was racist or biased, just funny because it was just funny jokewise,� Twitty said. �I feel bad because that's not, I don't want people to look at me and say �she sent those racist jokes out because she's racist or biased.' I am not.�

Twitty said she was simply doing what others in Ferguson's government were doing.

�It took me a while to get over the feeling of being raped and being thrown under the bus,� Twitty said. �I'm human, I meant nothing bad by it.�

Twitty was Ferguson's City Court Clerk for 19 years. The US Department of Justice was critical of how the court system was run, saying she boosted city revenue by setting fines. The report also alleged the city's police department was encouraged to write a lot of tickets to add to city coffers.

�That's not true. I set no fines, I just abided by them,� Twitty said.

Reminder that one of the racist emails was this picture

with the caption "rare photo of Ronald Reagan babysitting Barack Obama in 1962" :catstare:

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 16:59

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

computer parts posted:

A lot of the busing stuff was very prevalent in the north too.

And apparently one of the most robust and locally liked desegregation schemes is in Louisville, Kentucky

quote:

But something strange happened as the integration plan continued. Many of the residents' fears failed to materialize, and after a few years the protests ceased.

It�s as though �people are amazed to discover that people from another race or ethnic group are actually pretty similar to them,� said Gary Orfield, the co-director of the Civil Rights Project at UCLA, who has worked with the city for decades on the plan (and is Myron Orfield�s brother). �There�s a tremendous deflation of protests when almost all the stereotypes people hold aren�t true.�

Orfield remembers the vitriol in Louisville in 1975, when the unions and white population alike vehemently protested the court order�at one point, a bishop supportive of the integration was spat on as he came out of church. But Orfield also remembers how, five years after the plan began and the judge ceased active supervision of the court order, the region�s leaders �decided what he had done was a good idea and they had a banquet for him.� Not everyone felt this way�Jefferson County saw a drop-off in enrollment after the integration, but it later leveled off.

Much has changed in the decades since the bussing plan began. Surveys done back in the 1970s indicated that 98 percent of suburban residents opposed the plan. But in a 2011 survey, 89 percent of parents in Jefferson County said they thought that the school district�s guidelines should �ensure that students learn with students from different races and economic backgrounds.� About 87 percent of parents asked said they were satisfied with the quality of their child�s education.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 17:10

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Shageletic posted:

Find out what city in your state most mirrors your political beliefs: http://www.claritycampaigns.com/townrank

Hayden, AZ has 662 people and is apparently the godless socialist urban paradise of Arizona

# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 19:18

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Jagchosis posted:

https://twitter.com/isilcats

The Internet is perhaps the strangest thing to happen to human culture since the invention of the written word.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2015 03:06

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Blindeye posted:

I still think Tumblr has it beat, at least for a while longer.

Twitter is a very, very strange thing that's been there for literal revolutions, I think Tumblr has a long way to go.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2015 03:13

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Joementum posted:

Quote of the night, "Eight years of one demographically symbolic President is enough." ~ Wayne LaPierre

Going into whiteprivilege.txt.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 03:08

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

My Imaginary GF posted:

Andrew Jackson would.

Touche.

Though if the counterexample is Andrew Jackson it really shows you what kind of horrible person you'd have to be to do it!

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 03:44

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Trabisnikof posted:

Incompetence > Malice usually.

If you can't keep yourself from laughing while someone's telling a very personal story about rape you're probably at least a terrible jackass. Maybe someone sent you a funny text! Well why the gently caress are you looking at it right now?

Laughing because you're an incompetent fool or for completely incidental reasons is still completely loving terrible.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 19:05

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

ZobarStyl posted:

The fact that "Clinton Bypassed Centrist Taco Bell for Liberal Favorite Chipotle" is a headline from the Wall Street loving Journal and not the Onion makes me so very excited for this election season.

It's going to be an amazing spectacle, a can't miss entertainment event.

Of course that such a spectacle decides the leader of the most powerful nation in the world is....kind of terrifying.

ErIog posted:

Somebody needs to start a new ThisFuckingElection right now, and just have it be CHIPOTLE in giant text. This story is killing me. I live in a country where Mexican food almost doesn't exist. I can go to a somewhat okay restaurant if I travel 40 minutes on the train and pay like $25 to eat there. I can also attempt to make something on my own at home. Neither of these options match the Qdoba steak nachos I'm craving. If this Chipotle story lasts another week I'm gonna go on a week long homemade Mexican food binge. People are gonna find me holed up in my apartment eating cold refried beans out of a can with a spoon while sobbing uncontrollably.

If nobody has come the end of the month I may do it...

Though I'm not sure I could afford the bandwidth come 2016.

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Apr 17, 2015

# ¿ Apr 17, 2015 03:35

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Ron Jeremy posted:

If you eat at chipotle in any state that used to be mexico, you should be kicked directly in the balls.

I'm just gonna say that sometimes you crave carne seca or a Sonoran hot dog, and sometimes you crave a gigantic Chipotle burrito.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2015 04:18

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Meg From Family Guy posted:

They aren't wrong.

Shut up Meg

# ¿ Apr 18, 2015 07:51

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Joementum posted:

Bonus quote of the day, "The next 20 months are going to be like a Hobbesian state of nature." ~ Ted Cruz

Wait, what is he saying.

Is he saying we will all die in 20 months, alone and unloved?

# ¿ Apr 18, 2015 23:23

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

ErichZahn posted:

While were talking ancient history, how many American "liberals" supported the apartheid in South Africa?

Prior to the 1980s? I don't believe anyone really questioned it or even bothered with it until the 80s in the US, which is when it really picked up steam. I don't think it was actively supported so much as ignored.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2015 06:20

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

haveblue posted:

Is this a complete Republican victory as far as that bill goes? They traded a vote on Lynch for all the language they wanted?

Couldn't Obama just veto it, or say "confirm Lynch now, or this bill gets it," and then just veto it anyway?

Or is there some other reason to sign it?

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 21, 2015

# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 15:53

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Hotdish will never not be terrifying to me.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 21:43

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, I've always thought that developing ways to inflict pain without the risk of death or visible injury is a particularly worrying thing. The government becomes like a child abusing parent who shows off to everyone that their child doesn't have any marks on them, so everything is fine.

It's all fun and games until someone holds the gom jabbar to your neck.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 04:20

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:23

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

Stultus Maximus posted:

Normal quote of the day:
"I like Charles Murray books to be honest with you, which means I'm a total nerd I guess." ~ JEB Bush.

I really need a link to this, holy gently caress.

# ¿ May 1, 2015 05:10

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > USPol April: Posting Cafe & Bakery (NOTE: Baby-killing gays need not apply)