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Maybe not the best thread but the Game Writing thread seems more for RPG stuff by the OP. I've had an idea kicking around in my head for a year or so and I made some rough progress on basic rules and gameplay structure but that's about it. I hit a spot of depression last year and it derailed what I had going. In theory it's a fantasy game that's part Risk lite part RPG lite. Four players ideally all vying for control of a fantasy map recently left with no ruler. They each have an army they can build to attack each other directly and ideally that would be an endgame sort of thing. It would ideally play faster than Risk but that's the first game to come to mind when I think of a comparison. There wouldx be upgrades you could buy with a base resource system. But at the same time players would also have an adventurer to send out and seek the parts of a Mcguffin that would let them with without having to eliminate another player. The adventurer would go through dungeons which would be a deck of cards with traps, monster, whatnot and get treasure some of which would improve the empire and some would improve the adventurer. There would also be ally cards that give the adventurer a party adding skills and stats. PvP could still be implemented by allowing players to steal empire wide treasures with their merry band of murder hobos and ganking each others guys in the field. I guess what I'm getting at is, is this idea worth pursuing or does this game already exist?
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To my knowledge, that does not exist. It takes elements from games that exist, but I haven't seen them put together in anything like that, no. And also, it sounds very cool. The question is how well you can execute it - good pacing and lots of real choices while keeping balance will be tricky, but that's the challenge you face. Edit: also, there is a board game workshop thread somewhere around here. I'd link it if I wasn't on my phone. Jimbozig fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Jimbozig posted:To my knowledge, that does not exist. It takes elements from games that exist, but I haven't seen them put together in anything like that, no. Yeah that's basically as far as I got. I have (obviously) basic mechanics. Enough that a game could at least start. I need to make the decks of cards which are going to be SUPER basic and awful for a long time. And chances are the game would never really get anywhere beyond some basic testing between me and my friends. My notes on it are erratic too. Originally it was going to be four different types of fantasy villains trying to eliminate an empire. Evil wizard, lich, demon thing, and warlord. With the army styles being more "themed" like aberrations, undead, demons and outsiders, bog standard humans. But as I thought about it I liked the idea more of it being more equal. At least for now.
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Len posted:Yeah that's basically as far as I got. I have (obviously) basic mechanics. Enough that a game could at least start. I need to make the decks of cards which are going to be SUPER basic and awful for a long time. And chances are the game would never really get anywhere beyond some basic testing between me and my friends. Here's the board game design thread if you're interested in talking about it more.
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Misandu posted:Here's the board game design thread if you're interested in talking about it more. Ooh thanks. I'll cross post my post when I get home and stop phone posting.
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Ronwayne posted:Labor day was specifically invented to avoid may day being a thing due to its socialist connotations.
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frankenfreak posted:Or you could go the other way and co-opt May Day. The Nazis did that, for example. I have May 1st off thanks to Hitler. May first is weird in Finland, because it's been co-opted, in turn, by the Christians, then the workers, and finally students. It leads to a weird mishmash of traditions, like drinking mead, every political party of all stripes staging rallies (but especially the anarchists and the leftists), and finally all the weird business with university students putting caps on statues. Originally May first was the day for casting auguries to find out what your future husband looked like and burning bonfires to purify the cattle and other cool pagan magics, but the Finns stopped doing that once they became good Christians at the behest of the Swedes, and now May first in Finland is called Vappu (after St. Walpurg). Now we just do all that cool pagan magic on St. John's day in the middle of Summer. 
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I just started reading the Chronicles of the Black Company and I'm enjoying them. I noticed that Green Ronin came out with a Black Company d20 book ages ago. Has anyone read that? What's it like?
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Down With People posted:I just started reading the Chronicles of the Black Company and I'm enjoying them. I noticed that Green Ronin came out with a Black Company d20 book ages ago. Has anyone read that? What's it like?
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Yeah, the writeups for the named book characters are pretty hilarious - you have 5th-10th level warriors and generals, then 28th and 50th and 75th level wizards like the Dominator written up with Exalted DotFA-style writeups with half-page feat lists. It's a lovely book though if only as an encyclopedia of the setting.
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Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? I'm not talking catpissers, I'm talking about dudes who legit try and want to do well but are not very bright. After years and years of explanations by multiple people on how best to handle things they still can't hold a campaign together. No gaming is better than bad gaming but bad gaming being done by people who really really want to be doing good gaming is kind of painful to kick to the curb, especially after years of instruction and tips. How do I let them down softly and suggest we keep the group together but play board games instead? (They are great to be around and I don't want to burn this friend group, I just don't want to play elfgames with them.)
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? Is everyone else having fun?
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? Tell them that while they may be having fun (if they are), you are unfortunately going to have to bow out of the TTRPGs with them, but you would love to continue to meet up for board games. If they don't respect the fact you are removing yourself but still wanna hang out and be chill, then it's probably time to find a new group.
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xiw posted:Yeah, the writeups for the named book characters are pretty hilarious - you have 5th-10th level warriors and generals, then 28th and 50th and 75th level wizards like the Dominator written up with Exalted DotFA-style writeups with half-page feat lists. Yeah, the timeline of events is pretty nice. It's also absolutely loaded with spoilers if you're just starting the series. I remember liking the magic system quite a bit, but that was also back in like.. 2004, when I hadn't played anything but d20. My overall review of the book would be "worth picking up in pdf or if you find it cheap." Paying reseller's rates on Amazon it probably isn't worth it.
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? flip the table and tell everyone how awful they are
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Table flipping is the only answer
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? Sounds like you are an rear end in a top hat and they are actually going to kick you out so no worry!
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? I guess maybe you might want to see what the actual issue is; if they are all having a good time and you aren't you might just like different stuff. Like a lot of the time (see even within this thread) BAD GAMING means apparently "enjoys game X instead of game Y, when game Y is what enlightened people on the internet tell me is better than game X" vs. some other thing. So what is your beef? Why won't they take to your instructions and tips? What do they do that you dont want them to do, and what do you want them to do that they won't?
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, how do you let bad players and GMs down softly? If the group has been together for years I would assume people are having fun. But hey the reason there are like a billion different systems and settings is because people can have really different ideas about what makes a game good. A better course of action could be to discuss with them specifically what you do and don't like about the current campaign while realizing that they seem to like it. Maybe something like "I can tell that you are all enjoying this, but I'd prefer something a bit more like [x], [y], or [z]. Would you be willing to try a campaign using that system next?"
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Sounds like you are an rear end in a top hat and they are actually going to kick you out so no worry! Hey, it hasn't happened to you yet so i think I got pretty good odds. But yeah, "fun" is being had in the "well, I got nothing better to do so time to show up, smile, and slowly die inside" while several of us exchange glances that maybe we can hurry this round up so we can break up for pizza. Its fun the way old people in a catholic marriage is 'fun'. So yeah, I'm going to bow out. Thanks all. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Apr 29, 2015 |
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Not that I'm saying bowing out is a bad idea, but if you don't mind, could you elaborate more on what's being run badly about these games?
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, it hasn't happened to you yet so i think I got pretty good odds. A marriage is not supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be a serious yet loving commitment, something that apparently schismatics and Lutherans can't understand.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Not that I'm saying bowing out is a bad idea, but if you don't mind, could you elaborate more on what's being run badly about these games? Big ideas that don't pan out. GM forgetting what he's doing mid sentence (When I say "not very bright" I mean "mild learning disabilities"+mental health issues which is another reason I don't want to be cruel) and going on a random tangent. High concepts that devolve into dungeon crawls using a slightly different map than we used last time, despite us putting together a collection of different maps and prestatted enemies to throw into any of them. The elf part of the elfgaming is hard, so I think we'd just do better with board games. Plus none of us like talking in first person and use third person to talk about what the PCs are doing (Basically there's no IC, just OOC descriptions of what we're about to do) so its just a slightly dressed up version of "Pawn to c2" Also, this is uncharitable and mean of me but one of the players has a lazy eye and it just drives me NUTS.
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Don't listen to these guys, I've played with someone with a learning disability and it's just not very fun (this was literally decades ago, in the early 90s). It was a relative of a player in the game. Their cousin had learning problems and his life-long dream was to DM his stories and it was awful. But, he was so delighted to be doing it nobody wanted to say anything. This went on for months before we finally said "ok, wrap it up" and he was predictably devastated. Just a bad situation. You want to give them the opportunity to do their own thing but their own thing is only fun for them.
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Just say, "Hey, I'm not having fun any longer, so I'm just going to sit this out." Buy some beer and pizza beforehand to smooth out any hurt feelings if they are a little sensitive. For maximum gentle touch, tell your GM first and talk it out like adults. This way your GM won't miss you when you're gone. Hell, you might even convince them to play one of your board games! Or not.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Don't listen to these guys, I've played with someone with a learning disability and it's just not very fun Jesus rear end-frotting Christ. Okay, I understand not having a person with a mental disability be a gamemaster. However, there are literally no reasons to not include them in your gaming. It might require you to be more engaged in the game to assist them; it might require someone to make additional handouts or simplified sheets to help the player understand their choices and how to act on them. Perhaps it might just require you to have patience for and faith in their ability to do it. If you can't be enough of a human loving being to entertain the idea that a disabled person might also want to enjoy this hobby then get the gently caress out. To the original asker, GrizzlyCow's advice is fantastic. Just don't make it personal.
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drat, can't believe I'm gaming with a guy who has a lazy eye, wish he'd just kill himself to save oxygen for me, Reverend Ronwayne Garywayne.
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Zurui posted:Okay, I understand not having a person with a mental disability be a gamemaster. Good. Then stop right there, because the guy still stayed in our game for a couple months afterwards until he had a tantrum because he couldn't be DM anymore. I never said anything about not including someone with mental disabilities in a game at all. That's something you invented out of whole cloth. If your group is willing to do the work then go for it.
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FactsAreUseless posted:drat, can't believe I'm gaming with a guy who has a lazy eye, wish he'd just kill himself to save oxygen for me, Reverend Ronwayne Garywayne.
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FactsAreUseless posted:drat, can't believe I'm gaming with a guy who has a lazy eye, wish he'd just kill himself to save oxygen for me, Reverend Ronwayne Garywayne. True! --nervous --very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease had sharpened my senses --not destroyed --not dulled them. Above all was the sense of hearing acute. I heard all things in the heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell. How, then, am I mad? Hearken! and observe how healthily --how calmly I can tell you the whole story. It is impossible to say how first the idea entered my brain; but once conceived, it haunted me day and night. Object there was none. Passion there was none. I loved the gamer. He had never wronged me. He had never given me insult. For his gold I had no desire. I think it was his eye! yes, it was this! He had the eye of a sloth--a lazy eye, with a film over it. Whenever it fell upon me, my blood ran cold; and so by degrees --very gradually --I made up my mind to take the life of the gamer, and thus rid myself of the eye forever.
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what if a beholder had a lazy eye? would you be able to tell?
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Captain Foo posted:what if a beholder had a lazy eye? would you be able to tell?
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*Ronwayne playing with a new group in his home* Oh man it's really cool that I found you guys, it's been really good to game now that the lazy eye guy stopped coming *starts hearing heartbeats from floorboards* Hey, stop that ruckus right now man, we're playing!
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:*Ronwayne playing with a new group in his home* Oh man it's really cool that I found you guys, it's been really good to game now that the lazy eye guy stopped coming *starts hearing heartbeats from floorboards* Hey, stop that ruckus right now man, we're playing!
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Good. Then stop right there, because the guy still stayed in our game for a couple months afterwards until he had a tantrum because he couldn't be DM anymore. This is a brave post and I applaud your courage to post it. No one will stand up for anecdotal evidence that people with disabilities make awful players and gamemasters any more.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:*Ronwayne playing with a new group in his home* Oh man it's really cool that I found you guys, it's been really good to game now that the lazy eye guy stopped coming *starts hearing heartbeats from floorboards* Hey, stop that ruckus right now man, we're playing!
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