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Endorph posted:You wouldn't say that if you'd played Undead vs Orc. rofl the undead vs orc 1v1 Anatharon posted:Humans' main problem is that their early game is pretty bad compared to the other races'. Their heroes in particular are pretty bad early on so if there isn't a tavern on the map to get a Tinker or Firelord or what have you, fast expanding (which is a big deal to Humans) is really risky. Ivory towers and mini town halls in TFT helped though. Dude do you even know what you're talking about - Humans had easily the strongest opening in TFT ladder on any non-poison map barring moon levels of night elf control. Cheap farms on top of militia movespeed meant you had a scout advantage over almost anyone too. I mean if by weak early game you mean a blademaster can ruin a bad human player's day sure but FE strats are so hard for anyone to stop. Road to Stratholme and Terenas Stand were basically perfect for fast expands. Archmage is also like, a key hero to fast expanding because the water elementals are there to tank for your militia. I'm pretty sure Lost Temple (the main ladder map w/out a tavern) race winrates were Human > Orc > UD = NE Zoness fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Endorph posted:i played me some undead and lemme tell you, i cried me some tears into lord deathstrom's muscular arms if I ever made it to tier 2 as UD vs Orc I made sure to bm him constantly because he was probably not using his bm properly! tier 3 was the dream though Granted if you made it to tier 3 you were probably playing against an orc that didn't know how to use any of his units. Anatharon posted:Humans' strength is in their spellcasters and air units but air units are really easy to counter. Priests and Sorceresses are just really good in general though. Also priests are mediocre, sorceresses are great, siege engines are the best. The greatest strength for humans was their ability to fast expand and then transition to any kind of counter unit. Zoness fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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anyway i'd prob try to reinstall to play but only for 1v1's if it's ladder and goddamn i'm rusty w/ footman surrounds w/out a mountain king uther party would be a good way to do it, 4v4's is too dumb on map selection (and undead is legit ridiculous on 4v4's because of skelly rods), and i have a hard time remembering 2v2 and 3v3 ladder as anything but a crapshoot (if you get a guy that says "they'll tech" it's time to just call it a loss or hope someone's equally dumb on the other team) alternatively joke 3v3 tournament w/ highperch as the only map. Zoness fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Endorph posted:round 1: 1v1 ladder only if it's dota 5.84b w/ no hamachi / private server / reconnect support
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Adam Bowen posted:I feel like it would be more interesting to watch team games where some people are just terrible and their team mates are desperately trying to make up for it, rather than watching a bunch of pointless 1v1 massacres followed by maybe one or two matches that are slightly competitive. Also, anyone who doesn't know warcraft 3 well enough to remember the ladder metagame is now so intimidated by the discussion in this thread that there's no way they'll want to sign up for 1v1s. I can't help it, someone stated as fact that UD was the best race and Humans the worst. I mean let's be honest NA ladder was a crapshoot in matchup quality even in its heyday and the best matchup ever is the night elf mirror.
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I won't deny that UD was fun to play until you ran into a guy that knew how to kill acolytes
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sappers and shredders only that includes clearing the camp in front of the goblin lab
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I haven't 1v1'd for like 3 years but I still know all the creep routes on Terenas Stand and Turtle Rock like the back of my hand. I miss war3 at wcg  I'll play if I can find/buy some cd keys and if my schedule works. Prefer ladder play with low player count but v  v.Also we should 1v1 but have it only be night elf mirrors on terenas stand for no good reason i promise. Zoness fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 16:06
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sheep vs rabbits is secretly one of the best custom maps ever randomheroes some other options i forget 1v1 actually seems very  cuz the map pool is so stupid*cough* gnoll wood and lost temple in 1v1 ladder pool *cough*
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Apr 6, 2015 15:34
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weekends basically
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gannyGrabber posted:Is it too late to play?!??! I want to play!!!! Coldest arrows too. AM + Naga is a good combo for HU vs Orc but AM + Firelord tower push was my favorite t2 transition.
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foutre posted:Here's a link to the highest level WC3 strategy: http://www.battlereports.com/users/Stacker/highperch/highperch.html . Godspeed.  Highperching is so obnoxious holy poo poo. But I mean t2 tower pushes as a human were basically the competitive equivalent.
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my schedule is awful im going to have to bow out also my cd keys are lost in the abyss of time.
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