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Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Glad to see that Ar Nosurge is continuing the silly MMD shenanigans that I saw from Ciel Nosurge.

(The lack of lipsynch really bothers me...)

Tarezax fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Apr 8, 2015

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Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Side note, I've been getting back in the mood to draw lately and what I'm working on right now is tangentially related:



I think I must have spent at least ten hours shading and adjusting that face.

Tarezax fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Apr 8, 2015

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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I think Nay has warped Cass's idea of what empresses are supposed to look like.

Also, our hero is already further along than Croix was with Cloche at this point in the game! Cloche's big tsundere level was all the way down on level 5. TBF though Croix and Cloche started off as complete strangers while Cass and Delta clearly have quite a bit of history together.

Tarezax fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Apr 9, 2015

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Also, since this update confirmed that the short tracks on the Ar Nosurge Hymmnos albums are the song magic activation tracks: I can't wait to see the dives where we get SEXY_METAL_IDOL and I_HAVE_NO_ROYALTY_INCOME

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Nay was wearing overalls in the Ciel Nosurge video I posted earlier. Maybe we'll see a few alternate outfits with pants?????(watch there be like, one, in the entire game)

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Having binged through the Ciel Nosurge summary, I can confidently say that Cass has the least tragic past out of all the Ar-series heroines by a pretty long shot.

Nay, on the other hand... :stonk:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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life_source posted:

This is pretty tangential, but I want to start playing these idiotic datingsim-esque JRPG's. What is the best method to go about that? I'm finding conflicting evidence about AT 1/2 being backwards compatible with PS3...

Is my best best just staring the gamestore employee straight in the eye while I buy a PS2 and AT 1/2 and never break eye contact until I've walked backwards out the door?

I don't think anyone will judge you for buying AT1/2. AT3 on the other hand...

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Feinne posted:

Yeah sorry if that wasn't clear, I'm actually willing to take your answer because it's my bad for not being really clear I was asking who was actually singing when Misha was singing.

Here's some bonus trivia with a preview of one of the question types:

Here is a line from a Hymmnos. Which one? Any X is a reference to the song name itself.

Wee ki ra chs X en grandee sos dius yor

All the real OGs know exactly which one this is of course.

Chronicle Key, of course.

That's one of the ones I memorized the lyrics of :v:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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I... I liked Luca :saddowns:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Yes, I really like Ion as a character too. You see a lot of development in her through Ciel Nosurge, and I'm enjoying the payoff so far in this game.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Apropos of nothing, if you've read the Ciel Nosurge summary but didn't watch the videos or find the soundtrack, you should totally go track down the Genometrics Concert albums. My personal favorite, one of Nay's songs (sung by Haruka Shimotsuki):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPcrZVr6oI

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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I can't wait to see Nay's genometrics. Her situation is so hosed up.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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wdarkk posted:

This doesn't seem to actually be true. The Ar Nosruge Plus box makes it look like she's wearing short shorts.


I think it was referring to under the parka. If you look closer at that box image, she's got the parka unzipped and yes, she's only wearing underwear underneath it.

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

I have no idea what that is .

The robot in the air is Earthes, fighting Delta.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Nelico and Prime seem to take up the role of Mind Guardian that previous games had in their Cosmospheres. I think diving with Nelico is less actually diving into her mindspace and more diving into the remnants of the prison mindspace that Ciel Nosurge took place in. It wasn't destroyed, just buried.

Also, moe is good.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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I think GUST kinda uses these secondary game series to test out new battle systems and see how well they're received. From what I saw of Escha to Logy, the battle system there was basically the same one that was used in Mana Khemia 2.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Feinne posted:

Let's have some more trivia!

Mir Tier:

Just what does "Ar Ciel, Ar Dor" mean? And hell while you're at it what did Ar Ru's name mean?

I believe "Ar Ciel, Ar Dor" is Heaven and Earth, but I don't know what Ar Ru means.

Also I only ever played AT 2 with the Japanese audio so I can't remember the Synchronity Chain callouts :shepface:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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So Prim is using Interdimend too... but who's on the other side?

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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DOOP posted:

Create the most out-of-context caption for this image

"Oh my, passed out already? But we're just getting started..."

e: obviously, did not factor in the dialogue box.

Tarezax fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 23, 2015

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Feinne posted:

I think it's best to just assume that everything that isn't correct anymore was the result of Ar Ciel's history becoming closer to legend after the planet was hosed.

Or whenever you notice something like that a lady song wizard did it.

Nice av.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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That potted plant back there should have been a bunch of lilies instead.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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mastersord posted:

Is that a Molex..chan-thing?

It's from Gravity Falls. It's a episode where Soos finds an old dating sim game in a bargain bin and starts playing it.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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FractalSandwich posted:

Also, I realise this is a fairly conceited thing for me to say after I just said I don't know anything about Ar Tonelico, but I played Fault Milestone One over the weekend and it's everything I personally could ever want from this kind of game with none of the crude humour. If you're the kind of person to be following this thread, and you don't mind visual novels as a format, and you aren't too fussed if the music isn't as good as in this game, I recommend it very very highly. You can get it on Steam.

Unless you're only into Ar Nosurge for its male protagonists and pretty girls wearing not enough clothes. If that's what you're after, then maybe don't bother. I mean, Fault has pretty girls in, but they're fairly conservatively dressed.

You can take my raunchy humor but you will never take my waifus

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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The Japanese in Ar-series songs tends to be a) archaic and b) poetic. Poetic Japanese tends to bend the rules of grammar to fit meter and such, and with the added archaicisms (also common in poetic Japanese), it's no surprise you have trouble understanding it.

This is a common thread with all East Asian poetry, Chinese especially. Classical Chinese poetry treats grammar as a suggestion instead of a rule, making it extremely difficult to understand.

Tarezax fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 10, 2015

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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On Legacy of the Void: John DeLancie's character is the best.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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wanna eat Nay's nikujaga

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Super Jay Mann posted:

Does the Japanese version use that same terrible carnation pun? :stare:

Apparently Japanese takes the english name of the carnation as a loan word, so yes. That pun was in the original.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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The Ar-series games seem to be an experimental test bed for GUST. Every one of them has different gameplay systems, whereas their mainline Atelier games are more iterative. Trouble is, the experimental stuff is very hit-or-miss.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Icedude posted:

One that isn't from Earth as she's from somewhere else on the 7th dimension, unlike Ion who's supposedly from the same part of the 7th dimension as us but probably from a different point in the 6th dimension. It's complicated.

Also, it's Ulyliyha.

Ulillillia? :v:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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I have an "undub" version of AT2 on my computer, which is quite nice because NISA cut out a bunch of JP audio in the localization. Miyuki Sawashiro and Ami Koshimizu are both so great in the lead roles.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Is that the same one where they also randomly 'un-translated' a bunch of stuff for no good reason?

And dammit Feinne, you're making me want to go back to AT2 too but I've got so much stuff to do, I can't find the time. :negative:

AFAIK no, they just switched out the audio tracks for the JP version's. For example the クローシェ様~! untranslated bit is preserved.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Materant posted:

I got Jacqli myself. I'm sure that says more about the questions I got rather than me, but still.

I got her too. She says it's because you picked so many joke answers, but... they were so tempting...

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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God help us, we've been transported inside a porn VN.

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Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

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Going back through the Ar Tonelico 1 & 2 LPs, it looks like all your Viddler videos are now broken.

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