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That parfait is a perfect allegory for RPGs.
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I might have paid more attention to the previous Ar Tonelico LP if anyone had told me there was a fictional language involved. 
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Apr 13, 2015 03:09
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I feel like the biggest sucker. Hymnos Chat gets me actually interested in this game, and then it's immediately followed by that.
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Apr 14, 2015 04:09
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All that and Delta doesn't even take off his shirt.
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Apr 15, 2015 03:36
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Maybe the game does get better later, but that doesn't make what it is right now not awful. And even if it's nothing but gold from here on out, I'm not sure I can ever really forgive the character design and the looming specter of further nudity.
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Apr 17, 2015 02:49
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It really seems like Cass is the actual main character. Why aren't we playing as her instead of Amnesia McCipher here?
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Apr 20, 2015 03:46
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I don't get these people who make all their Songs a CLASS::. If you're singing about it, you probably want everything to be public anyway, so isn't it more elegant to just use a STRUCT::?
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Apr 21, 2015 09:57
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Is every Genometrics going to lean on these incestuous meta-references for anime nerds, or is it just the first two?
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Apr 22, 2015 03:12
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Apr 23, 2015 03:43
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Incarnation slows your body’s growth rate considerably. We’re artificially Incarnated, but it’s the same.
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Feinne posted:I think japan would sink into the sea if an Ar Tonelico game went by without a boob joke.
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Apr 23, 2015 04:28
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Well that sure makes her interaction with Shirotaka about a million times creepier.
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Apr 25, 2015 03:10
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Delta's repeated talk about how he'll be the one to protect these poor vulnerable women is really starting to grate on my nerves.
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Apr 26, 2015 18:07
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Feinne posted:I don't know, I kind of have to forgive him for it because, as he noted earlier, trying to keep Cass safe is pretty much the only thing he's got left in his life.
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Apr 27, 2015 13:02
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So Ion's strategy for escaping a mental prison is to a build a robot to help her make a bomb and blow her way out. She makes a good first impression.
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Apr 28, 2015 02:56
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So that lady was called "Nelico", which is like "Tonelico" without the first two letters. And in "Cloudy Planet Nelitoarco", "Nelitoarco" is an anagram of "Ar Tonelico". I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. It seems to just be a joke. It doesn't seem to mean anything. But it must mean something.
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Apr 28, 2015 06:51
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Earthes really is the player, then. Not just a player character, not just a player cipher, not just a metaphor for the player. Literally the player. I can imagine that getting wanky really quickly, but it's been surprisingly restrained so far.
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Apr 29, 2015 03:33
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I can never tell which parts of these Genometrics mean something, and which are just random surreal wackiness for the sake of it. I can never tell what I should be paying attention to and what's just a gag.
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Apr 30, 2015 03:37
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Paracelsus posted:A few years pass; Delta & Cas reach their late teens. Cas uses the syringe she picked up near the end of Ciel Nosurge to become a hitogata/whatever you call reyvatails in Nosurge, Delta & Cas join PLASMA.
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May 1, 2015 03:37
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Feinne posted:Well as you note that's totally theoretically possible in future Surge Concerto games (hah yeah like it'll ever happen unless they potentially offer a female MC option or something).
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May 1, 2015 06:32
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This isn't what I meant when I asked for more homoeroticism. Not even a little bit.
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May 4, 2015 06:11
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Argas posted:Edit: decided to watch the battle video and Ion's remarks are great. FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 03:41 on May 5, 2015 |
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May 5, 2015 03:37
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In principle, I like that the game is coming out and directly indicting the player for buying into its anime waifu crap. But in practice, literally everything else about the game makes that ring completely hollow... and then it immediately turns around and says "Actually, maybe it's okay after all" anyway. It's almost impressive how quickly and intensely it tries to have its cake and eat it too.
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May 27, 2015 06:03
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Feinne posted:It's sort of supposed to be like that. It's pointing out to us that Ion's taking advantage of our perception of her to get us to do whatever she wants us to, just like she did to Nay at the start of the phase. And we keep falling for it and doing whatever it is she wants.
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May 27, 2015 09:12
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You must not moe. Moe is the mind-killer. Moe is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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May 27, 2015 13:00
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Is "PLASMA" supposed to stand for anything?
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Jun 8, 2015 04:12
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This background is a good example of what I meant when I said that I never know whether or not anything in this game is supposed to mean something. The first time I saw it, I figured that the signage could be meaningful, but the exact same shot gets reused a bunch of times in a bunch of different genometrics for a bunch of different people, so it plainly can't mean anything, even if some of it sometimes happens to seem relevant.
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Jun 18, 2015 01:11
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I mean, one-way communication from Delta to the player would be trivial. He'd just have to think of it and say something directly to them in a cutscene. It's only the other way around that's difficult, because in the end it's still a video game. I feel like giving the player dialogue options really undermines this whole conceit. You're clearly not speaking them into a headset, or typing them in with the system keyboard, so where are they coming from? In most games, the answer is obvious: they're things the character you're inhabiting might say in their current situation. But if I'm supposed to believe that there is no player character, and the player is the player is the player, and it's turtles none of the way down, shouldn't the player be able to say whatever they want as Earthes, or when they're possessing Delta? That's clearly impractical with our current technology, so in that case, surely it's better to make the player a silent protagonist. Video games abstract things like this out of the way all the time, and that's fine, but when the game is going out of its way to remove layers of abstraction and put the player in the fictional world as themself, and it's a game that so clearly wants to me take its story and characters very seriously, I don't feel like that kind of dodge is really good enough.
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Jun 24, 2015 15:38
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Wales Grey posted:Programming "enough" options and reactions to those options would be extremely time-consuming and use too many resources for a trivial feature.
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Jun 25, 2015 08:59
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Feinne posted:???: I didn’t really choose you./This game is fun.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:37
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This is a very silly video game.
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Jul 28, 2015 04:16
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Feinne posted:Fairy Fencer has a pretty interesting premise and battle system, definitely worth $16.
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Aug 5, 2015 02:25
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Hellioning posted:In contrast...well, it might just be the kinds of anime I watch, but I've seen so many heroines that have absolutely no self confidence it's getting on my nerves. It's an easy way to make the male character important while not actually having to do anything (make her feel better about herself by loving her for who she is!) Kadorhal posted:I think I'm just still bitter about tsunderes because of Neptunia Victory taking one of those sorts of characters who I actually liked and turning her into a bland, unlikeable, one-dimensional parody of herself. It's only been about a year since that LP, after all.
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Aug 13, 2015 09:17
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Look on the bright side: for all Neptunia's flaws, one thing it can never be accused of is having a heroine lacking in self-confidence to make a male character look good.
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Aug 13, 2015 09:39
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Okay, I give up. I retract my positivity. The only good thing about Neptunia is the song Tenpei Sato made for Nisa.
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Aug 13, 2015 14:03
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Feinne posted:On this at least I think we can have some unambiguous consensus.
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Aug 14, 2015 02:38
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Feinne posted:I do actually no lie know the lyrics to EXEC_COSMOFLIPS from Qoga (I've even translated it) and I could probably do EXEC_HARMONIUS with a bit of preparation but I'm not sure what the thread has done wrong to deserve hearing me sing. Maybe if someone with talent will promise federal matching singing.
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Aug 14, 2015 04:15
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Feinne posted:Some other things that are fully in Hymmnos include EXEC_VIENA, EXEC_SPHILIA, and EXEC_HARMONIUS_FUSION.
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Aug 14, 2015 04:51
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Barf.
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Sep 6, 2015 10:29
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I'm pretty sure I already went through all five stages of grief the first time, so hopefully we can skip straight to "acceptance" when it comes back around.
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Sep 6, 2015 14:28
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And it sounds like "aeon". That's probably supposed to be meaningful.
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