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Scribblehatch posted:I'd rather you respond to the other thing I said, but that just now meant nothing of the sort happened. I don't like it because it objectifies women. I've already said I'm fine with erotic art in general. so yeah you're straight up telling me how I feel
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Scribblehatch posted:Can't rebut him, huh. like I watched that lol
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Oct 2, 2016 02:23
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I'm sure some dude talking about feminism in 1994 is really gonna sway my dumb female brain into thinking objectification is cool and good
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Oct 2, 2016 02:26
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well a man said it, must be true!!
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Oct 2, 2016 02:29
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Im pretty sure the dude is talking about real women too and not shittily drawn huge titty anime women and/or robot women that were drawn by men to be jerked off to by other men so I don't see how it applies here at all
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Oct 2, 2016 02:41
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Scribblehatch posted:Prfff. maybe you should make your own arguments instead of letting ancient youtube clips and south park episodes talk for you
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Oct 2, 2016 02:50
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Scribblehatch posted:Gosh you guys are all fire and brimstone about this, ey. "haha, u mad?"--- scribblehatch, feminism expert, 2016
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Oct 2, 2016 03:02
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maybe the truth is...somewhere in the middle.....
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Oct 2, 2016 16:53
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no one is trying to intimidate you they're trying to tell you why you're being a moron and all you have in response is pulling dumb puppet master no actually YOU'RE the mad one bullshit and it is tedious and embarrassing
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Oct 2, 2016 17:01
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Scribblehatch posted:Oh be honest. With yourself, particularly. what are you even talking about
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Oct 2, 2016 17:05
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Scribblehatch posted:Just relax. Let people draw what they want to draw. objectifying women is cool and good and never hurts anyone
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Oct 2, 2016 17:09
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Elsa posted:so say you're a woman and you're working somewhere and the creative director thinks a character should have some sex appeal. Do you flip your poo poo then too. there are ways to add sex appeal that aren't huge anime tits and visible labia
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Oct 2, 2016 17:28
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Scribblehatch posted:Huge boobs are fun though. not if you have them also not every female character needs to have double ds and it gets really boring when they do, especially when it's really obvious the male artist doesn't understand how they work in real life
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Oct 2, 2016 17:32
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if the best you can do is unrealistic giant boobs maybe you shouldn't have a job where you are in charge of character design
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Oct 2, 2016 17:35
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Scribblehatch posted:So just say you find them uninteresting and boring. I'm a lesbian I love boobs of all shapes and sizes. but if all you can draw are women with giant tits you're probably a lovely artist who has some messed up views on women! maybe expand your horizons and look at actual real women and stop looking just at bad hentai?
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Oct 2, 2016 17:40
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mutata posted:Hahaha, you check so many awkward student tit artist boxes. I have two useless art degrees am I allowed to criticize them now or do I need to get my masters first
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Oct 2, 2016 17:47
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Scribblehatch posted:Real is often kinda boring. if you think realistic and varied body types for female characters is boring you're a giant shithead. keep jerking it to one piece I guess
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Oct 2, 2016 17:49
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hmmmm maybe the hatred comes from years of being objectified by men makes u think
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Oct 2, 2016 17:52
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Scribblehatch posted:Replace 'objectified' with 'voodoo cursed' and the sentences will frequently make the same amount of sense. it's cool how much empathy you have for the female experience
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Oct 2, 2016 17:56
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but women without big boobs and tiny waists are boring, the biggest art sin
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Oct 2, 2016 18:08
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misogyny, apparently
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I like how the fandom took widowmaker, a pretty dumb character, and made her extremely good, and gay. she also has smaller boobs as far as video game ladies go and they look like mine and I enjoy that  I hate when people draw her with big ol titties it's very no bueno
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Oct 2, 2016 21:46
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her default skin is pretty bad but that's why cool kids use her huntress skin lol jk cool kids don't play widowmaker at all she's awful
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Oct 2, 2016 21:50
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Elsa posted:This is where I do a sexy Widowmaker fanart so Troposphere will like me only if she has small boobs and is also being gay with tracer also lol as much as widowmakers proportions are exaggerated they aren't... this 
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Oct 2, 2016 21:58
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Elsa posted:would this work as a base? needs more murder in the eyes
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Oct 2, 2016 22:02
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Elsa posted:well yeah for sure the likeness needs work. It's just a sketch scrap I haven't done anything with. the best thing to come of this thread 💕💕
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Oct 2, 2016 22:05
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Scribblehatch posted:You cherrypicked fanart. that's official art from one of the movies my dude here have some more official art  
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Oct 2, 2016 23:21
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Colon Semicolon posted:c'mon, the guy's art just straight up doesn't totally 'get' anatomy anyway. I don't know if One Piece is the best place to look. japanese artists just can't help drawing women lovely it's a cultural thing 
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Oct 2, 2016 23:29
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considering both of you pull from anime for inspiration I'd say it's pretty goddamn relevant
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Oct 2, 2016 23:30
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Colon Semicolon posted:Even the female artists over there get real into it too y'know I mean c'mon. yeah all artists in japan do this just like all american artists draw lovely big boobies superhero women maybe consume better japanese media idiot
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Oct 2, 2016 23:31
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Elsa posted:Troposphere, what are they wearing? Can you link me outfit examples   the thing I like about the overwatch women's designs is that even though widowmaker and tracer are both skinny they still have differences in their body types. all the ladies are varied and cover a fairly wide spectrum which is rare and nice to see
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Oct 2, 2016 23:46
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Scribblehatch posted:Yes, it's her outfit from Strong World, a movie where everyone is tacked with this ludicrously garish outfit. Look up some of the others. That image itself was someone's tracing of it. lol yeah as we all know having to make art fast makes you draw all your women like horrible barbie abominations and oh no I chose a vector art tracing of a photo that somehow invalidates it somehow...except she looks exactly the same in all the other pics I posted. I wasn't even talking about her outfit I was talking about her proportions. which they kept ridiculous for the movie despite not having the time constraints of the manga
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Oct 2, 2016 23:49
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Colon Semicolon posted:I suppose I should tell my female friends to stop drawing porn or sexy ladies even though they enjoy that then??? is that what I'm supposed to do here like idgi if they draw them like the one piece ladies maybe you should tell them to look in a mirror sometime or take a figure drawing class
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Oct 2, 2016 23:50
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Scribblehatch posted:Really? How is Tracer different? her tits aren't hilarious balloons and she has room for her organs she's much less exaggerated in her actual character model as well 
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Alaois posted:im glad the conversation is now on overwatch, a game troposphere definitely created herself, instead of on how loving creepy you losers are I manage to derail every thread I post in to be about overwatch it's my gift and my curse
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Oct 3, 2016 00:13
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Colon Semicolon posted:
I think it's her harness making it look like that without it she looks normal  and yeah blizzard likes their butts. but to be fair to them they also focus a weird amount on genjis butt too. they're just butt obsessed
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Oct 3, 2016 00:16
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you can enjoy something and also acknowledge its flaws and that is something you have to do often if you want cool strong female characters doing cool things, unfortunately I have a lot of issues with overwatch re: bad character design choices but it's so rare to find cool ladies with various body types and races being badass that I'm willing to forgive them. blizzard also seems to be listening to criticism(with the inclusion of an older woman character) which is nice
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Oct 3, 2016 00:47
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female gaze is absolutely a thing in stuff like yaoi which also weirds me out tbh because it's usually straight women objectifying gay men and that's not cool either imo
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Elsa posted:Troposphere I changed the pose and stuff. I'm stepping away from this for now to let my eyes refresh. I should have more time after class tomorrow. In fact there's a 3D assignment I'm supposed to have done tonight lol. everyone should draw these good good gay girls
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Elsa posted:That's cute but the problem is you should use different brush settings maybe I've been busy playing overwatch I like it my dude. some anatomy probs but like, it's widowmaker so...it's acceptable for her to have wacky spine issues
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