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snoremac posted:That explains quite a bit, particularly Vega just showing up without much of an intro. Probably because he wasn't voiced by a literal crazy person in MD. Poor guy.
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Novel is blah blah blah Jenson wakes up in the alaskan clinic/aug prison and goes to detroit to find some enemy, eventually meets up with his future employer and busts the enemy's gun running scheme on a train. Tsundere IT Worker Francis has a loft in an old theatre or something?
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Alchenar posted:At least there's almost certainly another Splinter Cell game on the way. How? I thought Tom Clancy passed away recently
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Gyshall posted:How? I thought Tom Clancy passed away recently Tom Clancy stopped writing years before he kicked. Much like Madden, his name is a brand utterly divorced from the dead man. And it really says something that his ghostwritten poo poo was even worse than his post-coldwar/9-11 poo poo.
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snoremac posted:Playing HR, like it a lot except for the black woman rifling through trash who speaks like a racist's idea of what a black person speaks like. I wondered why the treatment of augs in MD was obviously a metaphor for racism while racism itself didn't exist. HR has the racism, but not how I might have expected it... It was actually the voice actor's idea for the character to speak like that, according to the dev commentary. It wasn't intentional and I don't think they were being mean spirited. No one said "do your best Auntie Fee style routine" but that might have been the issue. The devs used native Chinese speakers to speak conversational English in DXHR and should have directed Letitia better.
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At least the dev commentary node there was just "yeah we really hosed up with this, sorry". The commentary was poorly implemented but I liked how honest they were at admitting faults.
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I mean, if we wanna talk about racist voice acting in Deus Ex games, HR and MD have nothing on DX.
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So let me guess this straight. Final Fantasy XV is worth the trouble, and they're going to fix a bunch of things to be an enjoyable(er?) experience. Buuut Deus Ex: Mankind Divided get's a limp dicked experience, and Hitman is separated by seasons, and Tomb Raider is separated by Rises and falls and recoveries of the Tomb Raiders am i getting this right?
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Fargin Icehole posted:So let me guess this straight. Squeenix.
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Fargin Icehole posted:So let me guess this straight. They also expected the original Sleeping Dogs and Tomb Raider to cover their own dev costs and be insanely profitable enough to save the sinking mobile division. SQuareEnix are very much about making the Japanese side of the business look good, and drat the profits.
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aniviron posted:I mean, if we wanna talk about racist voice acting in Deus Ex games, HR and MD have nothing on DX. All of the terrible Hong Kong accents where credited to voice actors with east-Asian sounding names. I'm not sure whose idea it was to use racist 'chinglish' from the 50's, theirs or the devs'. Also, David Seriff is supposed to be a dick, he's a minor villain in how he forcibly got Jensen's limbs chopped off. I'm actually surprised there's not a bigger payback sequence regarding that in HR. Serephina fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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David Seriff always sounded like your friends dad who awkwardly tried to hit you up for weed connections
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Serspliff
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Fargin Icehole posted:So let me guess this straight. The Eidos side of Square-Enix is absurdly poorly managed, yes. Although I wouldn't include Hitman on that list, Hitman being episodic sounds like an idiotic thing that some suit cooked up but then it accidentally turned out to have been the best move available for the game because feedback could be given for each level so later levels would turn out better and nobody really cares about story in a Hitman game, so long as the environments and varied ways to carry out hits are intact. Less excusable is the always online requirement for Hitman though.
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Hahaha I assumed the thread title must've been a line I missed in DX. Even for Jensen that was cold.
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snoremac posted:Hahaha I assumed the thread title must've been a line I missed in DX. Even for Jensen that was cold. I don't remember him saying that. When does it happen?
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Mar 22, 2017 15:22
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When you go to the hostage mission at the beginning of HR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRC9A-tEB-Q
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Grand Fromage posted:When you go to the hostage mission at the beginning of HR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRC9A-tEB-Q It's a bit later, when you find the internment camp.
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snoremac posted:It's a bit later, when you find the internment camp. Oh yeah you're right. I haven't played it in a while.
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Rest in peace big rizzle
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Arcsquad12 posted:Rest in peace big rizzle Yeah, RIP
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Fargin Icehole posted:So let me guess this straight. To be fair tomb Raider is performing okay by their standards and I hear a third game is under works. That's more than the number of deus ex games we've gotten since the ps3 generation. Also hitman was actually Hella awesome in the season package. They're already working on a season 2 as well. Deus ex has been getting the worse of all the square/edios stuff. It literally has no prospects right now.
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Ineffiable posted:To be fair tomb Raider is performing okay by their standards and I hear a third game is under works. That's more than the number of deus ex games we've gotten since the ps3 generation. At least Human Revolution was a hit, what about Gex? We need a hard boiled Gex reboot.
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Deus Gex. Lizard people is the next logical step in the Deus Ex conspiracy anyway.
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snoremac posted:Deus Gex. Hot drat, this is money!
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Ineffiable posted:To be fair tomb Raider is performing okay by their standards and I hear a third game is under works. That's more than the number of deus ex games we've gotten since the ps3 generation.
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Casimir Radon posted:I'm going to be really pissed if the new Tomb Raider series gets sidetracked because they spent all their money on Final Fantasy bullshit. Good news for you then, the people making tomb raider are getting side tracked by the same thing side tracking Deus Ex! And it's not final fantasy! It's The Avengers.
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The minimap in HR is a joke. I feel like I wasted two praxis on vision cones and noise indicators since the former are almost invisible and I've never seen the latter at all. It's also too far out, so when there's a bunch of soldiers in one place it's a mess of grey icons. The upside is that it makes the stealth more tense I guess. If anyone remembers: at the Tai Medical place there's a scientist inside a shaft who's fallen to his death with an ebook next to him, but I couldn't drop down because I don't have Icarus boost. Is it worth tracking back for before leaving? I'd go back if he had a praxis.
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Ah poo poo the whole marvel initiative might take the tomb Raider team too? Well I guess we'll find out at e3, I'm sure there's going to be some kind of tease there. No point in speculation until e3, I feel. But hey we've gotten a lot of great games easier this year, that should help hold us over to see what's coming at e3.
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snoremac posted:If anyone remembers: at the Tai Medical place there's a scientist inside a shaft who's fallen to his death with an ebook next to him, but I couldn't drop down because I don't have Icarus boost. Is it worth tracking back for before leaving? I'd go back if he had a praxis. It's possible to stuff some of the small boxes outside into the vents and then use those to climb up a vertical shaft leading to the dude. I don't remember if there was a Praxis or not in there.
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As much as I liked MD it's pretty clear the devs didn't really know what made the original game good. They somehow interpreted systems driven gameplay and open ended design with, shoot, sneak, hack. Vents. Vents everywhere. Despite people loving the globe trotting aspect of the original and Human Revolution, they decided to create a huge, intricate, incredibly boring hub world that you gotta go back to again and again instead of going on cool missions. You spent very little time in hub areas in the original. Like, there's nothing to fucken do in Prague. Break into dude's houses and read his emails and steal his painkillers. How many times do I want to do that, exactly? They got the stealth wrong. Most modern games get stealth wrong to be quite honest. I really don't see how it's enjoyable to somehow have this one guy telegraph my position to everyone in the drat base. Also what was up with the weapon sound design? Every gun sounded like a pop gun. Enough has been said about the writing and the general plot. It wasn't great, but it did provide enough of a reason to infiltrate a bunch of places.
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snoremac posted:That explains quite a bit, particularly Vega just showing up without much of an intro. The novel doesn't really introduce that many people. Vega is the main one and it shows how Jensen got involved with interpol. That's it. It also continues the authors tradition of hating Gunther. Dude has gotten his rear end kicked in both his deus ex books.
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Soulfucker posted:It's possible to stuff some of the small boxes outside into the vents and then use those to climb up a vertical shaft leading to the dude. I don't remember if there was a Praxis or not in there. I actually tried this but couldn't figure out how to stack the boxes with myself positioned correctly to hop on them. I ended up travelling back there anyway - there's just a tranquilizer rifle. I've done two boss fights so far and have had to abuse saves like crazy. I'm playing in Give Me Deus Ex and these fights are pretty ruthless. Especially since I've killed nobody outside of them and usually don't carry lethal weapons. It's good the game's less generous with praxis than MD and that you can't spam invisibility as much to sneak past a bunch of guards. The stealth is quite great, even if the minimap sucks. snoremac fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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No praxis, but you get the both the ebook XP and pathfinder XP, so it's a good hunk of one. Plus you get an access card for later in the level.
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I just reached Shanghai for the 2nd time - how much longer is the game approximately? I'm getting bored, though it could be because I'm playing it right after the three other games and have reached peak Deus Ex. (This is not the Director's Cut btw.)
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You're at about 2/3, if I remember right. After the second trip to Hengsha there's two more locations to visit (not counting the Missing Link content you won't have since this isn't the directors cut).
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nevermind, I was about to say there's more than that, but apparently I'd forgotten that montreal was much earlier in the game than I thought. Yeah, 2 more jeticopter rides left
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I think that MD missed a golden opportunity (A ton of them, actually) to not have us go to Africa. Compared to Prague where there are tons of Euro Augs there, it would have been neat to see Jensen walking around in some blown out badlands and also the nicer parts of St. Petersburg//Egypt as this weird, super out of place bone white aug demon, where people just cross the street to avoid him and that might have even lended the smallest bit of self-awareness to their mechanical Apartheid idea...
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Prague was great though; the environment design improved a ton from HR. And it's not like Bohemia is a place we visit that often in vidya.
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I did like Prague just fine but I felt super weird about Adam's place in it. Compared virtually every other Aug, Adam is a visually striking individual. Wikipedia tells me that he's 6'1, 187 lbs... but that HAS to be pre Augs. I mean assuming full body carbon fiber nanotubes I could see him weighing around that, but he seems much taller than everyone around him and I always assumed with his robo-hooves he'd sit around 6'6ish. My point is he is clearly not your Run-of-the-Mill Aug and the way the jackboot cops in this game constantly scream at him just kind of robbed me of that sense. Jensen's character is at least in part defined by the reflections we get through other people. His shades are a visual metaphor, he puts them on when he needs to be the Augged-up badass people believe him to be, and the guilt-ridden pensive detective comes out when you see his big brown doe-eyes. I never get the sense that anyone in MD is scared of him, even though he's visually stunning & unique, and his reputation is either as a one man slaughterhouse or an implausibly silent ghost man. Sometimes I feel like, for fun, I could do a 20-30 minute YouTube video on just how close MD comes to being a truly landmark gaming experience hamstrung by a small number of design decisions (and obvious corporate interference) and I've done voiceover work in the past so I feel like I could do it justice... but it's hard to love something keeps punishing you for wanting to like it.
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