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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Popular Thug Drink posted:

As a raper and a rapee, I can confirm that it is much better to rape than to be raped.

As an orthodox utilitarian, I must ask whether you found the pleasure gained from raping greater than the 'negative pleasure' associated with being raped.?

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

blowfish posted:

which thread was that again

It got moved to E/N and its name changed to i hate women in a major way

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

SedanChair posted:

If somebody I knew was accused of rape I would probably distance myself from them until they were exonerated, to be honest. Your situation never reached the criminal justice system; maybe it would have been better for you if you had actually been charged, so that the facts could be aired and you cleanly exonerated.

This could never happen though because there wouldn't be enough evidence to effectively prove one way or the other. He would almost certainly be found not guilty, but as obdicut has been saying, there is difference between what the court says and what public opinion believes. If his friends (and you) didn't believe him before the trial there would be no reason for them (or you) to believe him after. Honestly there probably wouldn't even be enough evidence for a trial in the first place.

The difficulty with rape is that it so often comes down to one person's word against the other's, so it would probably be good of you to ask the other person for their side of what happened in this hypothetical situation.

E: it would almost be good if there was some way for a man to instigate a rape investigation on himself, but that would probably lead to violations of the woman's privacy.

Miltank fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Apr 10, 2015

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Sedan Chair is the earthly avatar of Poe's law.

E: every post you make can be read as your serious opinion, or a ridiculous straw man dreamed up by /pol/.

Miltank fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 10, 2015

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

clammy posted:

No it totally is. "You have my consent to watch me gently caress if you are part of a specified group of people. If you aren't in that group, & you watch me gently caress, it's a violation/non-consensual."

Actually, is extremely stupid.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

clammy posted:

I dare you to point out the logical inconsistency.

Consent doesn't work that way?

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

clammy posted:

If I specifically tell you not to watch me have sex, and you do so anyway, then you are doing so non-consensually. There is an ideology floating around out there that any sexuality-related violation of consent is a form of rape. She's referring to this ideology in her argument. That's not to say she's embracing that ideology.

She cannot meaningfully withhold consent in such a way. If you think that her doing so is poignant or conceptually interesting then I disagree.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

joeburz posted:

Calling her juvenile while completely dismissing any possible interpretations of her work. Add in a dash of felony allegations and you've got one great post going for you here.

Her 'work' being indistinguishable from amateur porn. Might as well start Supermechagodzilla posting about Marxism in Bangbus.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Sinnlos posted:

The art piece isn't the video in a vacuum. It is the video ALONG WITH the instructions and the context that it was performed and watched in that makes it art.

No, what makes it art is your willingness to interpret it as such. That is the only difference between the video and supposedly non-artistic porn.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
I'm not saying that it objectively isn't art, I'm saying that it is shallow and uninspired.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
The media are all just calling it a sex tape lol

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
The one in five statistic was only ever cited by people who wanted to believe it for ideological reasons.

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