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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:It's both, but the best part about that is that it's being surface-inclusive while being actual-super-racist. It's a win-win! Because on the one hand you get to say that Asians have two souls, but on the other, you can say that people from Japan and China and Korea and Indonesia and the Philippines and anywhere else are just interchangeable Asian. Which is something that hoooooo boy please say this around anyone's grandparents who grew up in any of those countries and report back. You loving dummy. Everyone in the oWoD has two souls.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 22:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 08:54 |
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:Okay Mexcillent. Seriously, what do you think the Shadow and the Ego in Wraith is? Or do you like all the other dudes who post on this god awful thread just take a tiny bit of setting knowledge and extrapolate then post?
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 22:43 |
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SunAndSpring posted:But can we go beyond two souls? Mage? idk
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 22:44 |
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i'm a cool dude who knows many things about this stupid nerd thing then fails entirely
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 22:46 |
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I'm going to take the bold stand and say: this game is stupid and is another Geist.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 01:06 |
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Ferrinus posted:I knew it in my heart. But if Beast actually has multiple upgrades and extensions for the nearly 100% worthless "lose 3 dice, gain one damage" fighting style merit from the 2E corebook I'll be overjoyed. I'm kind of at the point where I'm disregarding a lot of poo poo from 2e everything.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2015 01:15 |
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Lightning Lord posted:I've been looking at Changeling the Dreaming a little bit since finding out that they're going to do a 20th Anniversary, and the impression I get is that it was a failed attempt to do a take on that subgenre of 80s fairy-based urban fantasy like Emma Bull's War for the Oaks, Charles de Lint's Yarrow and John Crowley's Little, Big. I really hope they go back to these books, examine where the original creators fell down and go back to the drawing board. It's the oWoD game that needs it the most. While both editions are a mess (2E is at least a pretty mess) I honestly do think there's a salvageable concept there. I agree with this and know that it's just going to be bad.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 00:20 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Dreaming is bad because, basically, it's about growing up and the pains and joys of that, and it was written by people who had not grown up yet and did not have valuable perspectives to share on the subject. I think it shouldn't be a game about growing up also I'm pretty sure some key contributors were old as hell even in the 1990s.
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# ¿ May 19, 2015 05:00 |
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lol I can't believe that while complaining about the slights against the foucaldian panopticon you guys have overlooked the incredibly boneheaded mechanics of Mage20, namely that 1s eat successes holy poo poo e. also since because Phil Brucato apparently hates oWoD revised his paradox chart is super lethal and all about st fiat
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# ¿ May 21, 2015 01:20 |
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Mors Rattus posted:That's just oWoD. That's always gonna be there. No, it's not Revised. But hey you guys are the goonxperts and never ever could be wrong or read things poorly or be expected to have actual experience playing or running things. e: lol wait i was wrong, it was always in there, mage20 just has them create botches which wasn't in revised Mexcillent fucked around with this message at 01:36 on May 21, 2015 |
# ¿ May 21, 2015 01:33 |
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Gilok posted:You know, I was under this same misapprehension for years until someone on here corrected me and I went to look at it. It's because I used Aeon which didn't have that rule. But tbh I still think everyone complaining about the technocracy and science is dumb and bad. Almost as dumb and bad as M20 because god drat this thing is a piece of poo poo.
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# ¿ May 21, 2015 01:42 |
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Phil Brucato has always hated the Traditions though. He loves Orphans and apparently now the Technocracy (? imo, mostly because Neil Degrasse Tyson etc.).
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# ¿ May 21, 2015 02:36 |
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Kellsterik posted:Does noted historical documentary "The Burning Times" get a namedrop in M20? No but the Burning Times themselves do. No Jews or Muslims or Protestants or weirdo Catholics just pagans hurt.
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# ¿ May 21, 2015 23:41 |
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Dave Brookshaw posted:I keep gamely pitching Blue-books as well. There's only so many resources to go around. Needs to be a University/Archives book like the police precinct and hospital blue books.
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# ¿ May 23, 2015 05:57 |
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Beast, to me, seems to step all over the same things that Changeling: the Lost does with balancing a supernatural being and a mundane life. It literally has almost every single type of character you can make with Changeling and I'm seriously curious about how this poo poo got ok'd when from all I've heard Changeling: the Lost is one of the biggest Onyx Path properties. Like literally everything I read is like why should I play this juvenile version of Changeling: the Lost. Also, Matt Mcfarland took over Promethean after the core which was Bill Bridges.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 02:28 |
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Kellsterik posted:Who was responsible for the original supplements? It's Mcfarland.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 02:53 |
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i told matt mcfarland rpg dot net is a white power site and his administration of it is a professional conflict of interests and then he made this game its all my fault
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 21:51 |
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lol you guys are still posting about this subpar anti bullying changeling rip off
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2015 04:20 |
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Aberrant has a big, huge setting where you can slot in a lot of different things. My favorite Aberrant game I've played in was taking the role of the guy (my own character, not the canonical Scottish or English dude) who founded the Aberrants and playing global spy games against Utopia trying to get justice for Slider. I think the thing is that a lot of people have weird relationships with metaplot and some metaplot is super lame, but generally I think you should use it, abuse it, or drop it and that there's no moral weight to doing anything with or without it.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 18:03 |
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Rand Brittain posted:If I want to play the game, players have to be engaged with the revolutionaries' personal brands, and they were already in large part turning against them before M20 decided to give the Traditions a huge blackwashing. lol Phil Brucato has always hated the Traditions. They're the mean unsmiling Indians who don't let hippies commodify their sweat lodges and etc.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2015 17:22 |
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never mind
Mexcillent fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 24, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 24, 2015 15:36 |
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Daeren posted:I'd less say I dislike it and more that I dislike that oMage discussions/arguments are the black hole around which all World of Darkness discussions (and to a lesser extent all RPG discussions) orbit, and inevitably suck any other discussion down to arguing about Traditions vs. Technocracy using the same bullet points that have been used for twenty years. M20 just gave it a shot in the arm. The game itself is full of really interesting ideas, even if I have a distaste for the fact that a huge chunk of its fluff boils down to arguing with a roommate over the color of your wallpaper while the house burns down around you (as Mors Rattus alluded to), and that I can only read the same ten page argument so many times before I want to jump off a cliff. Actually its Mage editions, the technocracy thing is v apparent and lovely new atheists or brights or we are the only people who keep that one up Daeren posted:Well, apparently Sothis Ascends came out in April and I haven't heard anything about that. Was it any good, if anyone in here got it? I disagree with Rand that Mummy is bad at all, it's actually really good and Sothis Ascends keeps up the quality of the line/gives you some fun historical WoD settings to check out before Dark Eras is all the way done.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 05:09 |
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So lets get this straight: this is still a game about being a wiccan or otherkin or furry or something on the internet and getting owned and it's still going to press
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 17:35 |
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Poltergrift posted:On a non-Mage topic, is that Atavism that gives Beasts always-on 3/2 Armor genuinely as broken as it appears at first glance? Beast: for when you really want to push your friends around in an rpg game
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 00:09 |
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Gerund posted:And on the tack of the State Prosecutor being a "good" Arrow (irrespective of how riskless his conflict is) the Adamant Way, as I recall the 3rd Phalanx, demands a willingness to sacrifice your comfort and even your life in service to an ideal and to not become stuck into a temporal position where you will have to compromise your deontological ethics. An Arrow that defines themselves as a role in sleeper society is not a good Arrow and is a better forum-argument meme than a lead-off example in a product. lol sounds like a character with an arc
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 01:11 |