Mr. Maltose posted:

Let's be fair though, it's a way better use of someone's time to fix Leviathan then fix Beast even though everyone and their loving brother trips over themselves to do the latter.

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That person has bad taste

This particular style is more reminiscent of the close fitting, sheer looks you might find in the likes of a zuhair murad collection. The symmetrical angular gloves do what they are supposed to do - symbolize the twin nature of the vampire. The pose is entreating, which fits with the side-bar, helping to craft the overall impression of a creature who craves attention to its core and is simultaneously enslaved by it's base nature. A pose that looks confident on initial examination and then pleading. Excellent choice of style for the message being conveyed. And if you want asymmetry you can find it in the immaculate hair styling.

this is good fashion as art damnit

(he might be right on it not being a super inspired piece of clothing on its own, but as a storytelling element? loving A+)

Loomer posted:

Digital toreador fight. If we're symbolizing the dual nature of the vampire, stigmata-iconography bondage gloves are the wrong way to do it. They only advance the slave motif, not a vampiric struggle one, and we already have plenty of that in the dress itself. It's redundant, they're an eye sore, and it's all a little on the nose. The hair's asymmetricality actually works against the outfit because of the organic shape, since while asymmetrical hair can work really nicely it needs to be balanced by angularity elsewhere and the gloves are failing to provide that visual balance. The pose is nice - but the pose is not the outfit, which is my point of critique.

She's right though, I do have bad taste. My abiding love of the oWoD is proof of that.

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On a related note, American Psycho is the best Toreador film.

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The stigmata iconography in question is something I'm not picking up on. While she has her hands out, there's nothing highlighted in the palm of either glove. The point is also that the Toreador are presented in the sidebar as kinda hypocritical ponces who would absolutely push the narrative of being enslaved by their base nature as opposed to taking responsibility for managing it.

I'll agree to disagree on the hair front. I find that the natural and organic shapes help to convey softness in potentia. The angularity is, I feel, provided by the gloves and the pose itself - which while the pose is not the outfit, even a casual view of a fashion show will demonstrate that the pose and bearing of the model contribute heavily to the overall feel of a look that a designer has put together. Someone slouching and staring at the floor would completely alter the feel of the outfit, which in this case is a very clear statement piece designed to complement the accompanying meta. I personally wouldn't wear that dress and find it tacky as hell, but it is daring, and it is making some very strong statements.

Loomer posted:

The pose, together with the emphasis on the wrist presented by the gloves - a more viable placement for nails than the palm proper - have pretty clear stigmata overtones to me. We're in agreement that the dress is tacky, though. As for the asymmetry issue, I maintain that either angular asymmetrical or symmetrical organic are the way to go with outfits that play with the lines of the human body (with some exceptions, e.g. sweepingly organic pieces overall), and that the doubling up on angularity at the wrist is a poor decision.

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While I can now see what you mean, my first thoughts were of an opera singer. Although having thought on it some, a deliberately profaned presentation of stigmata iconography works really well with the overall message being conveyed by the piece. I find the jarring angular symmetrical lines work really well with the dress in highlighting that nothing here is really organic anymore to begin with, and the hints of it which remain - the hair, the makeup, the exposed skin - are a facade. It's unsettling on purpose. I maintain that while it might not be a particularly effective dress if you're looking at it in isolation, the finished image is excellent art.

And really, couture is about art and statement, rather than any kind of practical application. So in that regard, it is also an effective dress.

Yawgmoth posted:

Bedlamdan posted:

Well, that's true, but most of these people are identified as alt-right by others, rather than making it a core part of self-identity. Gatekeeping via content to keep out these undesirables doesn't really work, there are still daily CoD generals on 4chan for example who just bitch about this or that transgender NPC and then continue to buy and/or pirate OPP stuff.

Nessus posted:

Aye. Tolkien took pains to tell Nazis off even before the war, for instance.

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Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject - which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.

Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung.

neaden posted:

New preview is up for Geist, this time it's the antagonists and locations.
Reapers seem cool, the examples are nice too. Mass and the judge both seem like good long term villains to slot on. I think they need a little more detail though, like do they gain essence from reaping ghosts, it kind of seems like it but it's not stated. It says they destroy anchors too, but given that your body it an anchor it seems like that means they should be destroying graveyards left and right.

neaden posted:

I think some more clarification on Reapers in general would be good. Like the DC section talks about a famous 100 year old haunted house. How come Reapers haven't dragged those ghosts, or even the whole house, to the Underworld. Are they just rare enough that none of them have gotten around to it?

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As Reapers come from all walks of death, they enter their position with a wide variety of opinions on the Underworld. Some have no problems with the current state of affairs, especially now that they have avoided the ultimate fate. Others may dislike or even despise the Underworld, even going so far as to try to use their powers to fix the system from within.

Ultimately, most Reapers come to agree on a single tenet: the Underworld’s current state of affairs is necessary.

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Sin-Eaters are outsiders, bound to amnesiac ghosts high on stolen power. Their claim that the system is broken has no validity. Even reformist Reapers reject their ideas. Sin-Eaters want too much change, too fast. Their ideals are understandable, even laudable, but invite chaos.

Shockeh posted:

I mean, Sergeant Rage is basically one of the entire story Arcs for Bigby in Fables, so you could just read that?

Kurieg posted:

In non Swordcula news.


Tobias Sjogren just announced that he's leaving nuWolf as of tomorrow, so, you know. There goes the one person who can keep Swedracula in check.

The Changeling posted:

Where do you see anything about Dawkins leaving? His twitter bio is still: "Freelance Writer and Developer, currently working extensively for Onyx Path Publishing, White Wolf Entertainment, and Green Ronin Publishing."

Joe Slowboat posted:

Oh sure but mechanically it's "choose favorite Arcanum, roll" - nobody should be taking more than a minute to decide what spell to describe, especially freed from actually having to math it out.

GimpInBlack posted:

Demon should absolutely 100% be played like Person of Interest or one of the Mission Impossible movies where the team gets disavowed and has to go rogue--where "covert action" basically means "wipe the security footage after you ramp a tour bus into the Kremlin and somehow out through the front door of the White House."

I mean, you can play it like a John le Carre novel, but you need a group that's really into that intra-party paranoia and mistrust and honestly you'd probably be better off hacking the basic concept into something like The Mountain Witch that has systems in place for dealing with betrayal and trust mechanically.

bewilderment posted:

Alice Springs IRL is probably just as bad as the one in CofD.

bewilderment posted:

The drug and alcohol abuse themes are there in both, though.

Krysmphoenix posted:

welp that was fast! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it the help.

Mors Rattus posted:

the garou were real title-chasers, huh

Mors Rattus posted:

https://twitter.com/ShamsJorjani/status/1072798835632676865

Welp, looks like someone's getting a minder

Crasical posted:

Changeling society is probably rife with tension over those who suffered more/less than you during their Durance.

"I had to eat HUMAN FLESH to survive and eventually it made me LESS THAN HUMAN and I can still hear the SCREAMS of those I have CONSUMED"
"I got to be a pet cat, I slept all day and got fed whenever I wanted it and got lap-time pets and it was incredibly great, I just escaped because I realized I had aspirations beyond pure hedonism."
"Man you're not even a REAL Changeling. Go back to Arcadia if you love the Gentry so much."

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Wraith represents your career.

Rand Brittain posted:

I'm honestly still confused on how exactly Holden defended John here. People keep mentioning it, and I have yet to see a concrete example of what Holden did other than "he keeps talking about harassment by people who aren't John on Twitter."

Rand Brittain posted:

Honestly, I don't really care to go into the massive thornbush of claims and counter-claims between Holden and OPP. I tend to assume that the things Holden says about Rich are true, and that the things Rich says about Holden's behavior are also true.

citybeatnik posted:

It's been ages since I've played the game - do you have any examples of the stuff that aged poorly? All that immediately comes to mind are the twins and VV.

Digital Osmosis posted:

the moros goes for undertaker and everyone just shrugs it off because he's rather dense

unseenlibrarian posted:

In more ways that you might think- there was an issue where some art for the Lucifuge faction was literally just traced Dante with a shotgun instead of a sword.

Wrestlepig posted:

there was a FnF review of some rock and roll magic thing that was insanely skeevy about a teenage girl for most of the book. that and his musical taste is poo poo

LatwPIAT posted:

Write his teenaged waifu who walks around barefoot into a game. While being on record as a being a foot fetishist. And including art where the bare feet are prominently featured.

bewilderment posted:

Now I just need some suggestions - what other weird soul experiments could be interesting for PCs to investigate?

Zereth posted:

I like the "Convergent Evolution" thing going on in Requiem, which IIRC is all but canon, there's even some vampire-like creatures that are actively becoming more like Standard Issue Core Book Vampires somewhere.

Much like things keep turning into crabs in the sea, there's some kind of evolutionary pressure that makes a blood-drinking undead creature of the night become something you can play without having to change the rules in the core book much.