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Attorney at Funk posted:That does sound horrifying. Where are the rest of the Tom Hanks? With this power, the Lucifuge can...
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Apr 15, 2015 18:43
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There should be a game of TFV characters who are the judge, clerk, prosecutor, and the single court-appointed defense attorney of the ultra-secret United States Court of Appeals for the Fourteenth Circuit.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:03
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Crion posted:It was really inconsiderate of them to not just stop at the Twelfth Circuit, when you think about it Naming new ones gets tricky anyways because you have 1-11, then DC, then the Federal Circuit so you're either at 12 or 14, maybe in the backstory of this game it would turn out that there had been other previous Courts established for paranormal affairs but they were disbanded and the names abandoned for Some Reason. who fuckin knows I'm just throwing poo poo at the wall here
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Apr 21, 2015 21:26
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I don't think it's necessarily bad for players to form death-before-betrayal style loyal groups with each other but the extent of those loyalties should be tested. It's pure drama fodder, not just tempting people to sell out the group in big or little ways (ie laughing along with the Cool Ghouls when they tell a joke about the lame need character). You can also tempt them by exploiting other times they might disagree by framing it as a chance for them to help each other - like "maybe you can get through to him that what he did was wrong". If they always choose loyalty over principle that's a valid thing but also a great source of Horror.
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May 15, 2015 16:42
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Beasts should have the ability to do painful and disgusting things, terrifying bystanders but then they bring beautiful things, like Crystal Pepsi, back into our world through the destruction they cause.
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Jun 11, 2015 16:16
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Axelgear posted:I really need to read the Ordo Dracul book some time. I've always had this impression of them as a bunch of radical loners whose studies isolate them from society at large and only really see them come together in large numbers to show off and share tips on their depravity; the Otaku of the Vampire world,. RequiemHack.
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Jun 15, 2015 16:55
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pkfan2004 posted:Father Wolf was a mascot costume and nobody knew who wore it. And the name of those games? The Games of Divinity, of course. I figured ol Father Wolf was a little more hardcore than the Jade Pleasure Dome crowd but it just goes to show, I guess.
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Jun 23, 2015 03:51
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Ferrinus posted:I was about to say, that one's easy because you just dissect a spider or something. Maybe an Azlu Azarath.
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Jun 24, 2015 18:04
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Personally speaking: as a solo attorney whose career is dedicated to unmaking The Lie and who is also actually really a wizard irl I'm definitely in the Silver Ladder not the drat Adamantine Arrow. And as for working for the state's attorney's office rofl don't even get me started. maybe if he was at some sort of attorney working for a federal regulatory commission or the Department of Justice civil rights division - but even then rofl you better start smooching those temporal ideals that people who work for the government have to pay lip service to - ideals like due process and equal protection. Make no mistake: both professionally and personally its a letdown.
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Jul 8, 2015 06:58
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The real reason it's totally absurd that a lawyer would ever be in the Adamantine Arrow is that, as a lawyer, no matter what you do: you're not the one who's going to jail, you're not the one who's going to face the penalty. At the end of the day, no matter what your clients did and what the court decides (or, of course, more realistically: what you and the other side settle) you just go home. The thing that makes a state's attorney AA even more absurd is that of course the huge majority of cases don't go to trial, there's no dramatic courtroom anything happening, it's just the State using the threat of concentrated institutional power to get someone to accept their fate and take a plea. It really is a Seer way of doing things!
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Jul 8, 2015 07:10
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I don't have a problem with Arrows who are prosecutors incidentally, or who use their position to recruit hardened criminals or police or weapons. But I absolutely would reject the idea that such a person is serving the Order in any way by prosecuting people, or that their struggle in court is The Struggle. The reason that doesn't work becomes immediately clear if you imagine what would happen if someone beat the canny Arrow prosecutor in court. He's going to go off and murder whoever the un/lucky defendant was. "Ultima ratio regium" and all.
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Jul 9, 2015 19:51
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paradoxGentleman posted:Yes, because I have never read anything related to Mage and was bemused to see it create once again such heated discussion. What's wrong with that? wow +1 post from this guy, whats next a novel
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Jul 9, 2015 20:15
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Effectronica posted:Making any kind of warrior type a lawyer is a bad idea, because the warrior ideal, without getting into setting specifics, is about fair, honorable, just behavior. Lawyers, in an adversarial system, do not behave justly. Their goal is to achieve victory regardless of the justness of their cause. The standards of the court are supposed to transform this unjust behavior into justice. This is not a moral commentary on lawyering, BTW. So an Arrow, in order to be a symbolic warrior, would want to be the sort of lawyer that picks their clients and would still have some major conflicts. Being a public prosecutor would be incompatible with just behavior altogether. I would actually take the exact opposite position here. Arrows regard systems of chivalry and honor as interesting subjects of study (and do actually hold themselves to a code of conduct) but they don't have any compunction against winning, etc. On the other hand, lawyers are subject to extensive rules regarding their conduct - and state prosecutors even moreso! Ferrinus posted:The problem is that a courtroom isn't an actual battleground by the Order's own standards. It's a symbolic battleground in some ways, so it might serve as good practice or a handy rote laboratory or something, but if the cliffs notes version of the character begins and ends with how good he is at throwing people into prison something has gone wrong. This, however, remains the problem. An Arrow, who is a lawyer, and who is fortunate enough to have their Supernal and Sleeper vocations coincide in the practice of law, is going to have a very difficult time because the law - even the criminal law - is not the final argument a warrior makes. The Adamantine Arrow is all about conflict - and those conflicts are inevitably violent - because all power grows from the barrel of a gun, dead men tell no tales, etc. An Arrow lawyer is fundamentally different, though, from something like an Arrow psy-ops specialist, or an Arrow artillery officer (these are Arrows who might conceivably specialize in social or mental skills, respectively), because the conflict ends at the courtroom doors. That's not at all how the Arrow operates. I don't understand how any threat worthy of the attention of the Adamantine Arrow is going to be meaningfully (a) subject to Sleeper justice (b) vulnerable to Sleeper justice. This is why, fundamentally, it does not make sense that any Adamtine Arrow would "fight [their] battles in the courtroom". Arrow lawyers make tons of sense, but only if the practice of law is an avocation - a distraction or a means to an end. Legal solutions are susceptible to too many risks (appeal, jailbreak, etc.) compared to kinetic solutions.
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Jul 10, 2015 03:53
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zeal posted:i would definitely like to play Vampire in that cheerful storybook norwegian town though A fjord macabre.
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Jul 10, 2015 14:43
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Crion posted:Almost all of this is circular asked-and-answered stuff that's already been churned to death (and maudlin idealizations of the legal system help no one), but it's worth noting that "States Attorney" doesn't have a possessive because it's short for "United States Attorney." The sample Arrow is, in fact, an American. Well to be completely precise it would refer to the "State['s] Attorney". In Virginia, Massachusetts, or Kentucky I would expect them to be called "Commonwealth Attorney" or something. In federal court you'd just call them the US Attorney or the A.U.S.A (assistant US attorney). In some places you have County Attorneys, District Attorney, City Attorney, etc.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:24
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Attorney at Funk posted:Now see this post? This is what the Adamantine Arrow lawyer looks like. This is what you guys are going to bat for. Actually the conflict of our posting embodies the fundamental chaos of the universe. As I maintain my online "social justice warrior" activity I am in fact a true Adamantine Arrow.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:27
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I think it was Highlander 2 that really set the stage for the duster plus katana idea. Remember it was already cliche by 1999 when irl school shooters started doing it. Probably shades of Gambit from X-Men as well, I guess you could include that dude from Watchmen too as tapping into and mocking that same aesthetic all the way back in whenever that was.
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Aug 11, 2015 03:41
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DJ Dizzy posted:Okay, so second question: How do I make a hunter story that isnt just monster-of-the-week? Attorney at Funk posted:I've said before, and I still believe, that Hunter is the scariest WoD line both in terms of how bleak it is and in terms of how uncomfortable and sinister the questions it asks of its players and player-characters are.
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Aug 20, 2015 17:27
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LatwPIAT posted:Demon straight-out says that the convoluted plots should have no discernible reason, and that stopping a GM plot should have no apparent consequences to the GM, because gently caress having anything you do ever matter, I guess? Matrices have Outputs and those Outputs should be superficially understandable. The immediate or localized goals of whatever given project is the kind of thing the players should be able to deduce or at least guess at. Maybe adopt the Uncertainty Principle as a rule of thumb. But loving with Infrastructure is literally playing God so prudent demons should always prepare for unforseen consequences.
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Aug 30, 2015 18:32
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I'm going to point out that, for the record, on at least several occasions the Cold War could have been ended* in a few heart-stopping moments by a single perseon crazy enough and inclined to do so. People like to pretend these highly advanced, redundant, failsafe systems today are all invincible, but sometimes the fate of the world and the course of its entire history do actually come down to one person, or a few of them. A single overloaded computer terminal, or a faulty switch in the power grid at just the wrong time, could end everything at a moment's notice. Gavrilo Principe, Stanislav Petrov, or Cleitus the Black are historical examples of individuals who didn't possess any outrageous power but were in the right place at the right time, just once, and completely changed history. Armageddon is a totally reasonable end-state for a Demon campaign.
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Sep 1, 2015 03:30
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Those are basically the same risks facing any would-be hostage taker though.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:11
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There are too many well-documented, terrible and lethal phenomena, right here in the real world, that get you labeled a crank for believing, discussing or taking seriously. I think it's actually quite absurd to think the Masquerade would be so fragile. You guys are talking about the Internet like its 1999 and everyone can just put things on Limewire and share it instantly with the whole world no problem. In the real world most people have a ghost story or two, things that happened that they have no way to explain rationally but that they experienced anyway. A majority of Americans even believe in ghosts. Nonetheless, you try to bring up ghosts as a way to get out of a Disorderly Conduct charge or something and you'll become a laughingstock. Most Americans believe in UFOs but sitting congressman Dennis Kucinich was laughed at for saying he had seen one, when he was running for President. Edit: actually a majority of Americans no longer believe in ghosts. However, more people believe in ghosts than racism, and equally as many believe in evolution. A third of Americans think UFOs are alien visitors and a quarter of Americans believe in witches. I don't think it really changes my point though. DOCTOR ZIMBARDO fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Sep 6, 2015 13:47
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Hipster Occultist posted:To me, the prime threat to Masquerade is not that Joe Smith just filmed a Kindred throwing a car into a shadow man across the street, but rather how Vampires and Hunters could and would deliberately break it. Keep in mind that 20 years ago when the San Jose Mercury News published a series of articles describing how the CIA smuggled cocaine into black neighborhoods, based on statements from the real live CIA agents responsible, they were eventually forced to retract the story and disavow the people responsible. How much prodding did the rest of the national media need to wheel on the paper like a pack of rabid animals? Outside of black communities, radicals, and cranks nobody took it seriously. Keep in mind this is a plausible thing that a lot of people were already historically disposed to believe. It was based on insider statements and it was a huge scoop. But in the end it was retracted and disavowed. All without the use of any supernatural power - that we know of (heh). E: Of course its even sillier to imagine such a conscientious vampire surviving more than a few weeks without going crazy, dying, or being convinced that its not all so bad after all. DOCTOR ZIMBARDO fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 15:24
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Many angels probably spend their whole time in the material world. I always thought Angels were creatures that could sometimes pass into Twilight but only if their jobs require it. Otherwise they operate right here in the physical world, or in spacetime pockets of it, as demons and Infrastructure do.
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Oct 23, 2015 03:42
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It seems clear to me that they consider most of the value in the IP as sunk value from the 90's. What's been done since 2004 is gravy but exists mostly to patch holes in the classic stuff. That's World of Darkness anyway. I don't see why OP wouldn't keep writing new games but its such a tiny niche industry compared to the payout you could get cashing in on 90's nostalgia. Not a huge fan of it but what can you really expect?
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Nov 9, 2015 19:47
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Pope Guilty posted:I have a hard time believing that they'll do that. It would be dumb in a way that I don't think paradox arts Well I don't think it will be a straight up smashing together but instead would expect something more like what you'd see in the Translation Guide of incorporating the best nwod ideas into Masquerade etc. That would be a bad artistic decision, in my opinion, because Masquerade is poo poo compared to Requiem, but it makes business sense since Masquerade is what people remember. DOCTOR ZIMBARDO fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 00:38
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The latest round of Adventure Time, which is a show for children, is Requiem (not Masquerade!) as gently caress.
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Nov 18, 2015 05:16
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There are definitely Tempters who can get you real red mercury if you just sign for it.
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Nov 20, 2015 18:32
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The point of the technocracy is to circumscribe all reality, destroy all magic, and control all outcomes. So I don't see why it wouldn't be banality city.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:20
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Gerund posted:The undertone of counter-revolutionary views in oChangeling reflects that the typical consumer is largely the white, privileged product of bourgeoisie thought that- since the end of Jim Crow- has the most to lose from the modern state of greater equity & equality its not counterrevolutionary its Romantic sheesh
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Dec 11, 2015 17:35
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Vigil is definitely scarier than Reckoning, precisely because you don't have the Messenger to use as an excuse for your rapid descent into murder and mutilation.
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Dec 22, 2015 04:05
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Kai Tave posted:Hunt Beasts, problem solved. Isn't this precisely Beast's approach to the monstrance or whatever it's called?
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Dec 22, 2015 05:08
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Dammit Who? posted:The God-Machine The lynchpin in this video is whatever enables the lateral movement of the table the metronomes are resting on.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:41
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I think there's really something to be said for coming up with a wide variety of lose conditions other than just Death for a PC. For instance, loss of prestige, acquiring a bad reputation, becoming known as a craven weakling, losing other people close to you, acquiring a hideous and dramatic scar, being forced to confess or renounce something important (but not on pain of death - or in such a way that it might help them accomplish something else).
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Jan 16, 2016 05:13
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As someone who first gave Vampire a look in about 1996, pretty disappointing perspective on the IP there but its to be expected. Gotta say as a CtD fan it cuts doubly deep 
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Feb 16, 2016 16:41
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Kellsterik posted:So, what does the Shadow look like in and around the Pentagon? I'm working on a Demon one-shot that's going to involve breaking in via Rip the Gates, and I want ideas for striking images and unsettling spirits to harry the PCs. Enormous shields and swords and great, churning war-spirits. Embers in the breeze, one-eyed spirits of vengeance, along the western wall. A titanic labyrinth of bureaucracy and paperwork. The occasional wizard scurrying through on weird secret business, checking behind themselves like nervous rats or maybe occupying soldiers. Odd churning train-spirits snaking through its guts, containing the odd courts of hunger and commerce. Wounded national pride and nervous masculinity stalk the halls, quick to feast upon scuttling secrecies.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:50
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To be honest if I was going to explore the Shadow of a place in Washington, I would start with the Smithsonian. Imagine the terrible keening wail coming from the womb-bay of the Enola Gay at Air N Space. Or the terrible battles reenacted at the Museum of the Native Americans. Imagine the pilgrimages the Pure might make to the Museum of Natural History in search of the ur-beasts of hunts long past. No doubt a place like the Pentagon is ruthlessly patrolled by the Adamantine Arrow, or the Praetorian Ministry of War, or the Pure, or Task Force: VALKYRIE or all four at once. In the spirit of Washington, they all know each other and spend most of their time coldly politicking around each other in between spats of horrific violence that erupt in the suburbs where they all actually live.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:16
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MalcolmSheppard posted:you Yanks say "Ventrue" like it's a furnace part. In my experience, by the end of the campaign it usually is.
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What's wrong with sweatpants and reversed baseball caps?
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