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I really wish the freaking light novels were available in English. Here's to hoping the BD sales are good enough to spawn yet a third season. I'm also a Yui fan. I have a sneaky suspicious feeling that Yukino is already engaged anyway -- probably to Hayama. They're probably like, "We're going to have to get married one day anyway, so let's spend as much time apart as possible now." Yes. Haruna needs to start hanging out with adults her own age. Maybe she should move away to college?
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Didn't Hayama say that the first initial of the person he likes is 'H'. Or am I misremembering that/read a bad translation?
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Jun 29, 2015 03:47
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Y pretty sure
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Jun 29, 2015 03:52
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Get that harem ending, Yui. I believe in you.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:54
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From what I can tell from reading this thread is that the show ends on a cliffhanger ending. So maybe I won't watch the last two episodes and just pretend that Yui and the H-man get together.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:57
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In my mind everyone's smile is protected
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Brutakas posted:Didn't Hayama say that the first initial of the person he likes is 'H'. Or am I misremembering that/read a bad translation? He says "Y", but I think in the overall context of the show it's more likely that he means Yukinoshita Haruno. I'm sure he has some sort of incredibly complicated relationship with both sisters, but he generally expresses jealousy that Haruno finds Hikki interesting, while he's perfectly fine with entrusting Yukino to him. Happy, even. Also, way back in the first season, Haruno said something like "so she wasn't chosen this time either." (In response to Hikki being on a date with Yui at the fireworks festival) The impression I get is that Yukino liked Hayato way back when they were kids, but he rejected her in favor of her sister. Which of course also contributed to Yukino's inferiority complex. Hayato still likes Haruno, but she doesn't like him because he's "boring" in the same sense that she criticized Hikki for last episode. Meanwhile, Hayato also feels really bad for whatever he did to Yukino's social life (maybe other girls bullied her for being too close to him...?), and he deeply appreciates Hikki for being there for her in a way he couldn't. For her part, Yukino is totally over Hayato by now, but is still insecure about it because she thinks it might jeopardize her budding relationship with Hikki. Clarste fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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Jun 29, 2015 04:17
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chumbler posted:Get that harem ending, Yui. I believe in you. 
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Jun 29, 2015 06:05
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Coaaab posted:She deserves it. Looks like she's hiding a boombox under the covers there.
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Jun 29, 2015 06:16
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Yui's fervent and earnest heart of a maiden in love beats louder than any loudspeaker can.
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Jun 29, 2015 06:22
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For real though, Yui is the real hero of this story and deserves her ideal ending. Hachiman has been slowly growing less cowardly though, which is good, and Yukino's very obvious anxiety and insecurity as she lost her ability to krrp up her facade have made her a bit more sympathetic (it just should've happened before like the last two episodes). This episode was brutally on the nose about her issues. This show definitely needs a third season or at least a couple OVAs, in which Yui wins, naturally. Overall I really enjoyed watching this. Also Yuimom is great.
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Clarste posted:He says "Y", but I think in the overall context of the show it's more likely that he means Yukinoshita Haruno. I'm sure he has some sort of incredibly complicated relationship with both sisters, but he generally expresses jealousy that Haruno finds Hikki interesting, while he's perfectly fine with entrusting Yukino to him. Happy, even. Also, way back in the first season, Haruno said something like "so she wasn't chosen this time either." (In response to Hikki being on a date with Yui at the fireworks festival) This theory also makes Haruno's joke at the end of season 1/volume 6 ("I'm not sure Yukino deserves you, Hikigaya-kun, so I might just have to keep you for myself") completely awful, which is equally strong evidence for and against (because it's Haruno).
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Jun 29, 2015 18:18
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Every scene Haruno's in winds up feeling like a complete asspull to me because she as a character is almost too loving ridiculous to exist. It might be a fault of the anime and not the source material, but in the show she just appears and says exactly the wrong thing to bump the plot along the most uncomfortable path, like a dramatic impetus engine. She doesn't feel like an organic part of the plot at all. She might as well just teleport into and out of scenes with a dramatic flourish and maybe a mic drop at the end. Stop lingering around your former high school you weirdo.
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Shere posted:Every scene Haruno's in winds up feeling like a complete asspull to me because she as a character is almost too loving ridiculous to exist. I agree completely
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Shere posted:Every scene Haruno's in winds up feeling like a complete asspull to me because she as a character is almost too loving ridiculous to exist. Isn't the whole reason she hangs around her former high school due to the fact that the high school is an annex for the college she's attending? I mean, it still doesn't justify her showing up all the drat time, but it could be kinda understandable. What's not justifiable is how she sees the whole 'rivalry' with her sister as something endearing. The fact that Yukino was / still is super closed-off is probably mostly Haruno's fault, and she still has the gall of being a humongous shithead to both her and Hayama. She kinda feels more like a girl-version of Izaya... except Izaya is kinda amusing because of his dickery. Could she have a similar raison d'être? That she just can't help herself?
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Jun 30, 2015 21:52
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This "problem" really only showed up this season, right? I don't remember Haruno being as important in Season 1, or more importantly she wasn't just everywhere. The only thing that was somewhat out of place that I remember was her being a dick to Hayama.
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Jun 30, 2015 22:23
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It was present in the first season, just not as ubiquitous. It wasn't good then, either, but it hadn't well overstayed its welcome yet.
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why are people so hung up on her hanging around in high school. there were alumni hanging around all the time at my high school, its not that weird
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Davincie posted:why are people so hung up on her hanging around in high school. there were alumni hanging around all the time at my high school, its not that weird It's... kind of really weird. I think I went back once the year after I graduated to hang out with some friends, and it was a bit weird (also I substituted there a few times more recently, which was odd in a different way). Going frequently is strange and creepy, especially when her only purpose in doing so is to poo poo on her sister's shoes.
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Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention but doesn't she mostly meet her sister/her sister's friends around town or when she's asked to sit in on event meetings. I don't recall her just hanging out with them often
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i thought it was weird when i thought she was in her 20s but i read that she's 19 aka basically a teenager so...
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also that she seems to have her little sister's entire social circle on speed dial, up to and including 8man's little sister.
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Haruno's pretty necessary to the story given that she's the only one that values discord over keeping the peace in S2. Hachiman and Yukino, who were the abrasive elements that caused the important conflicts in the previous season, gradually get defanged throughout this one, thus requiring another of the characters to stand up and point out their flaws before they can take action. This is especially important considering that complacency in maintaining the status quo is clearly the theme of the season; since all the inside elements have a vested interest in not creating conflict, the conflict necessarily has to come from somewhere outside that still carries a degree of importance. Unrelated, but I also like how the author decided to write her with Hachiman, Yui and Yukino's strongest skills, being immensely perceptive, a social chameleon, and generally capable all at once. It simultaneously displays what each of them lack, demonstrates that those traits aren't inherently a good thing, and allows her to act as a foil to basically anyone the story needs her to be.
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gently caress! This show was good! I didn't really like the ending either but they seem to be setting up something focusing a lot more on the group's underlying problems but I'm not sure if that's enough for an entire third season. From what I've gathered from the thread the LNs are just fan translations, are there any hopes of them ever getting an official translation?
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watho posted:From what I've gathered from the thread the LNs are just fan translations, are there any hopes of them ever getting an official translation? 
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krnhotwings posted:Yen Press announced at AX that they've picked it up. I'm ignorant to this and stateside LNs in general but I'm guessing this a bad thing? Why is that?
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It's a mixed-blessing for me. In the long term, it's good 'cause we can support the author, have officials books, etc. In the short term, it sucks 'cause fan translation projects stop due to cease and desists and all translations up 'til now get taken down. In this case, we'll never see a vol 12 translation for years.
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I can understand that, but I think it's worth it when you consider just how deeply awful fan-translations are.
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Hopefully they get done properly and not too slowly. I'll definitely pick those up. Hopefully a nice bluray collection comes out as well since I hate having money.
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watho posted:Hopefully they get done properly and not too slowly. I'll definitely pick those up. Hopefully a nice bluray collection comes out as well since I hate having money. I don't know anything about the translation business, so I can't judge. However, seems like someone who put their mind to it could properly translate a slim LN from JP to EN in less than four months with all the edits and such, if they were really fluent in both languages. Being patient is tough though. Might be easier to learn Japanese.... And faster.
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It's always faster to learn Japanese, than wait for translations. LNs aren't a new thing, way back when the Haruhi and Spice and Wolf LNs (perhaps a couple others I forgot) were translated. But Yen Press wasn't getting the right sales for them back then, so it didn't become much of a thing, so they continued focusing on Manga. It wasn't until the last couple years or so, that they've tried in earnest again. They've been quoted saying in an article that the market is ready for LNs now, but they weren't several years ago, and their numbers reflect that. So as a result, you're seeing more and more LNs being picked up by Yen Press each year.
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Cubemario posted:It's always faster to learn Japanese, than wait for translations. LNs aren't a new thing, way back when the Haruhi and Spice and Wolf LNs (perhaps a couple others I forgot) were translated. But Yen Press wasn't getting the right sales for them back then, so it didn't become much of a thing, so they continued focusing on Manga. At first, I was surprised to find out that some of my favorite old-school animes (Dirty Pair, Slayers, LOGH, and Eternal Filena, for example) were originally Light Novels. I think that, as a form of entertainment, Light Novels have been somewhat popular for a while. It's just that as of recently, fan translations have been popping up like crazy. One of my friends in Tokyo swears that she has a Street Fighter Zero official novel which is pretty much Bakemonogatari 10 years before it came out, only with Sakura and Ryu in place of Senjougahara and ze' Aryaragi (sorry, I stuttered). Back to the 8man, Yuki-Onna and Ya-Hello, while I enjoyed this season way more than I did the first, I don't actually think this is going to get a third season, which kinda saddens me, because Studio Feel really stepped up their game and brought a really fun, cringe-worthy ride to the end destination. If we ever get a bone thrown our way, at most, I think this could probably get a few OVA/ONA's to finish the series like it happened with that one show with Mamiko Noto playing a Also, I'm curious as to what / and how much the Anime left out from the novels and if it's worth it. Should I start throwing money at my Japanese friends so that they can get me the novels or should I wait until Yen Press releases their version?
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Wark Say posted:Also, I'm curious as to what / and how much the Anime left out from the novels and if it's worth it. Should I start throwing money at my Japanese friends so that they can get me the novels or should I wait until Yen Press releases their version?
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I find Hachiman to be a really compelling character, even though in reality he's not all that different from the standard LN / Harem manga protagonist, at least early on. Part of what I really enjoy about him is just how he bounces off of people. Also, the dude voicing him (Takuya Eguchi, also responsible for voicing the MANLIEST MAN THIS SEASON) did a really good job in making him sound awkward. Like he's already ready to follow on the steps of Kenta "Thor" Miyake or Hiroki Yasumoto and he's able to do really deep, badass voices, but he can also sound hella awkward, cringe-worthy and you loving buy it when he does it. gently caress. Now I want a third season to happen.
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Like you, I don't think any future source material will be enough for an entire third season, but with first week sales of 10K for the S2 Vol. 1 BD and 120K for the Vol. 11 LN, an animated continuation feels within reach. Not guaranteed but within reach.
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I would watch an entire season of Yui being happy and having fun with her harem with zero plot development.
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I really don't want them to continue if they don't have a clear goal or central theme to work with. Though it isn't like they haven't been building up at least 4 different stories where they'll need to destroy the status quo so I don't doubt that they have themes to work with if they decide to make a continuation. Also, I really want to learn Japanese at some point, it's mostly just a matter of how.
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Cubemario posted:I can understand that, but I think it's worth it when you consider just how deeply awful fan-translations are. I think Spyro generally did a good job with his translation, and given the multitude of cultural references in the LN, I like that he kept the references and just added footnotes to explain things rather than doing the fit-into-Western-culture thing. I'm just praying to god that whoever's working on oregairu doesn't gently caress it up in some cringe-worthy fashion. Only time will tell, I suppose. On the other hand, it looks like Yen Press' publication of SAO is being released at a rate of 3 novels/year. If oregairu goes at that pace, I'll be fine with dealing with the wait for the most part...
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