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Kaelan Zero posted:It's nice to still see an anime or two almost every season that respects the viewer's intelligence & isn't overloaded with fanservice. I'm sure the bluray sales are terrible, though. please stop being a pretentious anime fan
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'i like it, so clearly it's too deep for those plebeian japs'
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 16:35 |
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You know, I'm starting to think the batman meme works a little too well.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 17:51 |
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Starts well, falls apart at the end.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 17:52 |
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who's looking forward to the american remake
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 18:30 |
Sakurazuka posted:HikkiXSaika is my OTP and I seriously wish the show would go in that direction instead of just playing it for laughs.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 19:07 |
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Triggerhappypilot posted:You know, I'm starting to think the batman meme works a little too well. I saw something like this but without the quotes. Edited out cause spoilers isn't working on mobile app. I hope 8man and his sister make up. It seemed like it was one of the few relationships he has where he can be more vulnerable in that he openly shows how much he cares for her (getting mad at her dude friend for referring to him as 'brother', falling for her rouse that got him to go on the camping trip, accepting her request to the club to help out her dude friend's sister). He's a doting brother for sure.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 20:13 |
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Clarste posted:I don't think Hayama is inherently wrong about Hikki, Hikki's defenses are just too strong. Trying to help him any way at all implies that he's weak in some way, and he can't afford to let himself believe that. His whole identity at this point is caught up in "they're not rejecting me, I'm rejecting them", so I don't think it's even possible for him to accept outside help. I agree, actually. It was mentioned that Yukino sent gifts to her family still, because she "hates them, but doesn't want to be hated". Whether this is true or not, Hikigaya is much the opposite, in that he can and does care for the well being of others but insists on framing himself in ways where he must be hated. Hayama attempting to directly contradict that would never have worked, because rather than it being something that Hiki just had happen to him, it was a conscious decision on his part to take that position in order to maintain the illusion of power; so long as Hiki thinks that society rejects him because of the reasons he's outlined to himself and the actions he's taken for that specific reason, his world remains intact and he can maintain his self respect. The problem is, I don't think Hikigaya is doing a good job convincing himself of that any longer. Season 2 so far has made much ado about 'preserving the status quo', and how we sometimes act in inauthentic ways or deny our own growth in order to prevent our social arrangements from changing. Basically, I think that's why Hiki's starting to crash so far. It's getting harder to preserve the illusion that everyone means him ill, and he's starting to recognize a lot of his problems are his own fault, so his sense of self-worth isn't being propped up by his rationalizations. At the same time, he refuses to acknowledge this, because it would be irrevocably changing his social arrangements, with which he has been satisfied with so far. Classy Hydra fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Remember when the twist of haganai was that they were friends all along, it's gonna be the same for this imho
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 21:28 |
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Namtab posted:Remember when the twist of haganai was that they were friends all along, it's gonna be the same for this imho That dumb twist was the least of that show's problems. The one good thing it had going on was the scientist girl voiced by the same VA that voices Sakura Kasugano... which to this day I still can't unhear. Hikki being his own worst enemy is a thing that, at least in my opinion, has way more gravitas in a series like this one as opposed to Watamote.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 00:52 |
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Classy Hydra posted:Hikigaya is much the opposite, in that he can and does care for the well being of others but insists on framing himself in ways where he must be hated. Nice analysis. That was a good post.
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# ? Apr 28, 2015 02:46 |
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Wark Say posted:That dumb twist was the least of that show's problems. Please don't imply that haganai had problems
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# ? Apr 30, 2015 21:47 |
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I love how this episode presented us with the perfect answer to the problem if Hiki didn't have to always solve things the way he does only for him to summarily reject it in the last line.
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# ? May 1, 2015 13:21 |
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I really liked the scene where Yui moved her chair over
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# ? May 1, 2015 15:12 |
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The_Frag_Man posted:I really liked the scene where Yui moved her chair over
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# ? May 1, 2015 15:32 |
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Coaaab posted:Cute girl leans against him and rubs his hair, pushes her away with his hands Which is exactly what he would do?
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# ? May 1, 2015 17:06 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Which is exactly what he would do?
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# ? May 1, 2015 19:24 |
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I don't know if it's just Studio Feel I have to thank for this, or also an uptick in the quality of the source material, but this season is miles better than the first one (which I already really liked!). Some great scenes in this episode. I'm still not sure I 'get' Yukino, but I hope she gets over whatever it is soon.
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# ? May 2, 2015 04:19 |
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Myriad Truths posted:I don't know if it's just Studio Feel I have to thank for this, or also an uptick in the quality of the source material, but this season is miles better than the first one (which I already really liked!). Some great scenes in this episode. I'm still not sure I 'get' Yukino, but I hope she gets over whatever it is soon.
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# ? May 2, 2015 04:33 |
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Great episode! Glad 8man and his sister made up! I wish I didn't spoil myself on what happened on this arc, but it was still great to see it play out. Man, that ending is kind of bittersweet, though. One of the best series this season; only second to 'Ore Monogatari!!' IMO.
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# ? May 2, 2015 15:09 |
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The studio has some soccer cynics employed it looks like (a shot from the student council room; looks like Jose Mourinho). Healbot fucked around with this message at 12:32 on May 3, 2015 |
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Sakurazuka posted:I love how this episode presented us with the perfect answer to the problem if Hiki didn't have to always solve things the way he does only for him to summarily reject it in the last line. I'm a bit late watching this episode but, yeah holy poo poo, that was a right hook from nowhere. The whole thing had me going, like Yeah Hiki, that's the way to be! Solve the problem without hurting anyone. Positivity! And then the "right" answer makes the whole thing look like a bad joke and the punchline is that he instantly shuts it out. Goddamn.
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# ? May 4, 2015 18:03 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Which is exactly what he would do?
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# ? May 4, 2015 18:09 |
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Shere posted:I'm a bit late watching this episode but, yeah holy poo poo, that was a right hook from nowhere. The whole thing had me going, like Yeah Hiki, that's the way to be! Solve the problem without hurting anyone. Positivity! And then the "right" answer makes the whole thing look like a bad joke and the punchline is that he instantly shuts it out. Goddamn. I don't get it. What does he say?
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# ? May 5, 2015 02:54 |
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To paraphrase: 'if life were a videogame would I go go back to my last save and try again? Haha, no.' after student council girl gives him her ideal scenario, which would have worked out much better, or at least been less underhand.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:19 |
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Okay, I feel like posting Hachiman's LN monologue at the beginning and end of this arc:SNAFU Volume 8 Prologue & Epilogue posted:“What if?”
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:34 |
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drat, I should really read the LN..
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# ? May 5, 2015 04:03 |
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Books 1-6 cut a lot in the anime adaptation, but most of it is fluff with the secondary characters. 7-8 have had some actually important monologue sections cut out. For example, Hikigaya reacts the way he does to Hayama's "you help people because you just want someone to help you, right?" because he thought Hayama understood him and he's incredibly pissed that Hayama got it so wrong. It's a good mirror to the end of this episode.
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# ? May 5, 2015 04:19 |
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Einander posted:Books 1-6 cut a lot in the anime adaptation, but most of it is fluff with the secondary characters. 7-8 have had some actually important monologue sections cut out. For example, Hikigaya reacts the way he does to Hayama's "you help people because you just want someone to help you, right?" because he thought Hayama understood him and he's incredibly pissed that Hayama got it so wrong.
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# ? May 5, 2015 04:41 |
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Only for volume 1, which was before he stepped in. Got really busy and never got back into it. Shame, really, because it was a lot of fun.
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# ? May 5, 2015 05:03 |
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Is there some central place that has PDF versions of the various translations? I've only found pdfs for vols 1-3.
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# ? May 5, 2015 05:17 |
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Sakurazuka posted:To paraphrase: 'if life were a videogame would I go go back to my last save and try again? Haha, no.' after student council girl gives him her ideal scenario, which would have worked out much better, or at least been less underhand. “What if?” This is a “what if?” scenario. What if life was like a game where you could load up a save file and go back to a point where you could alter your choice? Would your life change in any way? The answer is a resounding no. Hachiman is saying that it wouldn't change anything, not that he wouldn't choose it. It's fatalism, not a rejection of the right answer. He believes that even if he went back and knew the right answer, nothing would change - probably because he'd still be the same person. The whole episode is a little personal journey where he takes steps forward but isn't able to go all the way. He gets good advice from his little sister, and his friends offer to help. He doesn't REFUSE them, but he's not strong enough to accept their help and pursue a better solution. EDIT: I went and checked the dialogue in the episode and he says: 人生は変わるだろうか which, if you sloppily take it apart like an idiot: <your life> は <change> <i wonder> か I can't interpret this any other way than how it's translated in the VN and the alternative subs: Would your life change?, followed by the line The answer is a resounding no. I checked the CR subs, too, and they read: Would life change? The answer is no. I think if he meant it in the sense of 'would I change anything', he would have said something like 私は人生を変わるだろうか, which is pretty distinct (as long as you ignore me butchering the grammar). Kaelan Zero fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 5, 2015 |
# ? May 5, 2015 12:13 |
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People who try to use buzzwords to substitute for actual thought are the worst.
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# ? May 8, 2015 08:22 |
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To the contrary, I believe we as a community require an innovative flash idea in order to ascertain a consensus and develop organic growth as it points us towards the goal of synergistic output.
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# ? May 8, 2015 13:30 |
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There was some impressive gesticulation going on in that episode.
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# ? May 8, 2015 13:32 |
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The way that guy's hands kept moving in circles the whole time is just profoundly unsettling. I've WORKED with people like this before, they're real. The student council seems like it's going to disintegrate in an interesting way.
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# ? May 8, 2015 14:04 |
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I guess we're seeing the flaws of a personality designed to make people like her. The choice to move the narrative focus away from the club is an interesting one. Marginalizing Yukino even more.
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# ? May 8, 2015 14:18 |
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I take back what I said at the time this is pretty much spot on and now I want to watch the Nolan Batman movies again.
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# ? May 8, 2015 14:25 |
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Clarste posted:The choice to move the narrative focus away from the club is an interesting one. Marginalizing Yukino even more. The club is dead but it hasn't hit the ground yet. E: The dynamic they were trying to save has irreversibly changed. It's over.
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# ? May 8, 2015 16:14 |
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Are we supposed to know what's going on with Yukino yet?
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