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Locke Dunnegan posted:This isn't my first time here, though. I've lurked for years, and this is honestly the worst reaction I have ever seen to anyone seeking honest discussion. It was immediately taken over by straw manning, intellectual masturbation, and plain poo poo posting. poo poo like that would have seen people probated immediately in the past, or at least ignored if not called out. I loved going here for honest logical discussion about political issues, philosophy, religion, whatever. I made the mistake of not lurking in this forum recently to see how much the winds had changed and standards for good posting had eroded, and figured I had just made a grievous mistake somewhere or it was a fluke that obvious aggressive poo poo heads in the thread weren't being told to gently caress off of they weren't going to behave. I was wrong, apparently. *cant stand heat* *refuses to leave kitchen*
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for real tho you're getting trolled to poo poo because you're obviously an easy target if you would stop complaining about your poor treatment in every post people would stop treating you poorly, hth this may be the part of something awful where people talk about politics and stuff but it's still something awful so trying to hold this subforum to higher standards regarding civil discourse than GBS is just dumb as gently caress and is actually a common thing people whine about when they don't think their posts through very well and get flamed for it
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Apr 14, 2015 23:13
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Locke Dunnegan posted:I dropped it as soon as someone else mentioned that people making GBS threads on me may be going a bit overboard. Nothing like a little vindication to reduce bitching, and I felt that replying to a quote defending me with ":hell yeah:" would have been uncouth you'll have more success if you break your questions down into one line statements that are easily discussed
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Apr 14, 2015 23:16
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Typo posted:I never understood why D&D posters seem to have this machoism attached to hostile internet postings. because it raises the level of overall discouse to something barely more tolerable than youtube comments d&d has this weird reputation of being full of angry ultra leftists which isn't true but it's useful because generally the people who are scared to post in d&d have really dumb opinions and rarely show any insight, so it's better for everyone involved if they don't post here
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Apr 14, 2015 23:18
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Typo posted:I go on other forums which has better discourse than youtube comments all the time without the deeply ingrained hostility towards any opinions right of a certain point. lol ok man
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Apr 14, 2015 23:22
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Lotka Volterra posted:I think you'll find that the south will become quite unlivable after the north uses its nuke stockpiles to turn it into an apocalyptic wasteland. *wants to nuke a shitload of black people* *thinks of self as racially progressive*
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Apr 14, 2015 23:33
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"Once we've carpetbombed South Africa and killed all the racists, the remainder of the populace should gladly thank us for freeing them of their horrible condition"
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Apr 14, 2015 23:34
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Lotka Volterra posted:Are some posters so far through the looking glass that they cannot even recognize a joke? 
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Apr 14, 2015 23:46
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goon in a well: book-learnin' edition
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Apr 15, 2015 00:28
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Locke Dunnegan posted:Saying that I am using a tone argument as an attempt to derail discussion is true, I guess, but while it is clean in a vacuum to state that a tone argument doesn't do anything about discussing the original topic, it's still important to realize WHY someone might feel like they need to bring up tone as a reason why the discussion isn't working. There's a reason why there are good diplomats, teachers, and public speakers, and part of that is that they can inform others while not explicitly or implicitly calling them retards. just want to remind everyone that the person who made this incredibly whiny statement spent eight pages engaging in tone arguments on something awful and actually even posts on something awful to begin with
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Apr 15, 2015 01:21
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Avalanche posted:Ok... ok.... california and the southwest would have a lot of trouble with water and bulk foodstuffs. california makes a lot of high end food like fruit and nuts but not just raw calories the northwest would be pretty good, strong export economy there from timber to aerospace. not too many people to feed internally the midwest would have to parley their ownership of boring ag resources, fossil fuels, and a ridiculous nuclear arsenal for industrial goods and technical assistance and eventually migrant labor the south would be alright, it has a balanced set of resources and a larger share of military facilities. a bit too prone to natural disasters tho, so could suffer without federal assistance the northeast would lean heavily on europe, and would need a lot of help to feed their large urban population the upper midwest/old northwest/rustbelt would want to sell fresh water and try to restart as many factories as possible the biggest losers would be the coasts, as they rely more heavily on being national centers of fire, insurance, and real estate employment. more rural areas which just produce commodities would be big winners. texas might be the biggest winner of all, ironically - texas is huge and arguably self sufficient
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Apr 15, 2015 06:29
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probably the southeast and northwest are self sufficient. southwest/cali and northeast can't feed themselves, the north lacks fossil fuels, and the midwest isn't developed enough to have its own internal industrial economy
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Apr 15, 2015 06:35
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Nintendo Kid posted:The north has a lot of hydro and nuclear power proportionately as well as significant refinery capacity. Also there's still a decent grip of coal to spread around and a bunch of decent natural gas fields, and a lot of coal if you include places like Montana and Wyoming in the North. in what possible universe would anyone ever include anything west of iowa in the north
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Apr 15, 2015 07:05
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Locke Dunnegan posted:And I know there's probably going to be a reply that I CAN participate and ignore the haters more, but why are they allowed to continue? Is this GameFAQs? this is above all else a comedy forum, and your continued masochistic desire to get trolled to poo poo by the most pathetically low effort posts is kind of funny
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Apr 16, 2015 20:43
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down with slavery posted:As far as racial groups go, my first advice to any minority living in the south would be to get the gently caress out as fast as possible. I understand that's not an option for everyone, but again, I don't think the poor here should have to suffer because the south will fight tooth and nail against social progress. If that's "gently caress your poor people, I'd rather help the guy I see homeless on the streets every day" then so be it. "get out of the south, minorities!" says an american who lives in a part of the country that has far less minorities than the south
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Apr 22, 2015 21:15
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down with slavery posted:it's not the quantity, it's the quality ah, so you're only interested in helping the good ones
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Apr 22, 2015 22:04
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it's totally normal, and progressive, to hate an entire group of people because they don't think the way you think, and to accuse them of being racially intolerant despite living in far more diverse communities ahh, internet leftism
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Apr 22, 2015 22:07
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down with slavery posted:uhh I don't hate them I just think they are dumb and want them to stop influencing the policy where I live. it's not really much of an accusation when they openly support racist ideas this is what hitler said about the jews ridic slacktivisim here. it's pretty easy to sit in front of a computer in a 95% white suburb and decry the racism of the world. but it's not very interesting except when people laugh at how retarded you are
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Apr 22, 2015 22:10
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"if it werent for those mean old white southern racist, the united states would be a progressive utopia" -someone who never goes outside
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Apr 22, 2015 22:11
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RIP tamir rice, who would still be alive if he had just moved North
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Apr 22, 2015 22:20
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down with slavery posted:hey woah there godwin im not saying we should kill anyone or kick anyone out, down with slavery posted:well once we kick them out of the union they aren't really Americans any more and we have a long history of killing people from other places so no harm no foul as far as I see it down with slavery posted:i'm not looking for a utopia, just an improvement, ie removing GOP dominated shitholes from the union so your big idea to save the union is to throw out over half of it i think we call that "secession"
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Apr 22, 2015 22:23
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down with slavery posted:yes, that's what I want them to do if you're advocating for a white enclave utopia that contains a smaller portion of the country's land and population, that makes you the racial secessionist hth
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Apr 22, 2015 22:27
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down with slavery posted:i'm not, i don't know why you guys keep making it about race you did say you'd only allow the good blacks in
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Apr 22, 2015 22:28
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i mean you can't really blame me for pointing out that you sound functionally the same as a west virginian coal miner in 1910
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Apr 22, 2015 22:30
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down with slavery posted:no I didn't, I said the minorities that vote D are more than welcome to come what other limitations and restriction on minority behavior are you going to impose, while you're at it? are we going to give them generous apartments outside the city limits?
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Apr 22, 2015 22:30
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down with slavery posted:no honestly I expected a pretty reactionary response when I made the claim that the progressive states would be better off without the conservative ones thinking there are progressive and conservative states is about as retarded as thinking there are worthy and unworthy minorities
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Apr 22, 2015 22:32
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"the black men are stealing our jobs!" is the same as "the racist states are stealing our progress!"
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Apr 22, 2015 22:33
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down with slavery posted:So you're saying that you can't tell me whether Oregon or Mississippi is more progressive? Seems like a fruitful line of discussion. the whitest states are more progessive and just better, you say...
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Apr 22, 2015 22:41
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"truly, we members of caucasian america must show the light of progress and rationalist to the miserable blacks" -a liberal
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Apr 22, 2015 22:42
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asdf32 posted:And yep, jettisoning the south, though kind of an rear end in a top hat move would make the rest of the country more progressive. Hard to deny that. it would make the country a whole lot whiter, too i bet you'd like that
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Apr 23, 2015 02:49
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Obdicut posted:What if we enact both the plans of Dump the South and Kill Whitey, in the remaining states? if you enacted kill whitey there'd be no reason to dump the south
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Obdicut posted:Edit: Since states are laboratories of democracy, maybe we try kill whitey in just one state and see how it works? i pick maine
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