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Oh god I was one of the first goons to hit max level in space jam. Please hold me as I cry. Also vanilla wow talk- MC 40 was a deliberate middle finger to people who like vanilla while completely missing the point of why people like vanilla wow. Blizzard upped MC 40 to max level in WoD without admitting anything had changed in 10 years. You remember how you had 2-3 people on decurse duty due to really bad raid wide debuffs? Too bad, gently caress you, current wow has a 10 second cooldown on every healers dispells. Only healers get decurse. Hope you dont mind waiting out those 10 minute duration hilariously bad curses. Oops we removed the visual effect from living bomb tee hee I hope you have the updated today DBM Remember how you would bring multiple off tanks or have hunters kite big adds/boss adds? Raid finder only lets you have 2 tanks. There are 0 aggro abilities outside tank specs. All those AoE packs you basically had to AoE down at the same time to kill? Like core hound packs? oooops we nerfed aoe dps a to poo poo dang is this pull taking 10 minutes? Making it raid finder only was the worst offender. If you took a time machine to vanilla days and told a raider he would have to do MC with 39 random people he would shoot himself. They went out of their way to make it as annoying as possible then smugly patted themselves on the back for proving how badwrong vanilla wow was.
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Its almost like video games are this weird market were quality of product has nothing to do with profit so companies constantly poo poo out games to make a quick buck.
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So someone said ff14 wasnt literally gods gift to man so we got 50 posts of people defending their game again? Yeah 4 actions every 10 seconds sure must be a fun mmo to play. I typed this message using the ff14 gcd tool and it only took me 25 minutes, im clearly a superior and well thought out typist.
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May 26, 2015 09:04
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Interesting mmo facts- 1- The GCD in ff14 is half a second longer than every form of stun or knockdown in gw2.* 2- You can simulate playing ff14 in other games by using VPNs to bog down your latency to 2500. *I would have said "all CC" but a necro with +fear duration traits can rock a 3 second fear and I didnt wanna get called out.
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May 26, 2015 11:56
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I swear to god ill insult glorious ff14 again just to get this thread back on track.
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May 28, 2015 00:16
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Looking forward to all the idiots in this thread ignoring everything posted, saying "well free is a good price it cant be that bad", then coming back screaming about how horrible you were told the game is.
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May 29, 2015 12:05
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Complicated stat systems are 100% pure Columbian rpg. You dumb it down too much and you have gear that is just "+10 more health, +10 do better". Like diablo 3. That being said wildstars was a mess.
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Jun 28, 2015 14:07
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Im not sure wildstar actually exists. Im almost 100% convinced this is some satire about MMO's that im currently watching 3rd person with this thread.
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Jul 25, 2015 08:53
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Not only did wildstar kill CoH, but in wildstar there are many npcs named after famous coh players and npcs who will chatter about how much more they like this world than the last one. Also if you type /coh in wildstar your character pulls out a cape from their pocket and wipes thier rear end with it.
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Aug 5, 2015 05:27
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I once made a StarCraft custom map which you spawned with a 200 hp marine and had to kill a 9999 hp ultralisk. Almost 20 years later it is still undefeated. Please hire me I am clearly the best raid designer ever.
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Aug 6, 2015 06:23
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Did someone just come into the wildstar mock thread, ask for 100% serious advise about how to buy and play the game, then get mad when people called him a cupcake?
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Aug 21, 2015 02:40
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Says something about the MMO genre when ff14 is so loving horrible and yet so rabidly defended. 150 hours of quests to get your xpac content even after you max level/whatever. Yeah thats a good idea. At least with the 2.5 gcd you can read a book or something
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Mayor McCheese posted:I like unique healing mechanics and it's a shame you don't see them too often. I wish more games spent some time thinking about making a support role fun. I think too many devs were playing wow on their night elf/undead rogues and once tried to gank a pally that just spammed healed himself endlessly. this caused every single "next gen" mmo designer to go HEALING IS TOXIC AND NOT FUN and either make it a loving chore with stupid gimmicks (wildstar) or remove it (gw2) gently caress i just remembered wildstar had a mechanic where nobody had mana. Except healers, because reasons.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:41
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Tarranon posted:wild star raids seem pretty simple mechanically. Of the vids posted here nothing seems batshit insane. Most of the problems seem to stem from severe over tuning. Where raids weren't flat out impossible they were tuned to exhaust everyone but the most stubborn raid groups. Make boss mechanics interesting and hard enough that surviving them is the reward, dont require people to hit a magic number of damage by minute X or die. This is like 99% of the problem i have with mmo raiding.
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Aug 25, 2015 13:35
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Gw2 made the mistake of going full retard and making every heal ability (outside of your actual hotbar self heal ability) worthless. The healing power stat scales worse than any stat ive seen in an mmo rpg (full on stacking it will net you a total of maybe 50% increase in healing vs someone with 0) Not to mention all the abilities which heal or support are just garbage. Guardians have the largest direct heal in the game (virtue) and it heals for about 2.2k, plus another 600ish if you have a trait with gives it a HoT. This has a 45 second cooldown. The average melee auto attack crit is around 2.5k. A thief can backstab a lightly armored target every 4 seconds for 8k damage.
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Aug 25, 2015 14:58
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Holyshoot posted:Wouldn't work. Because then you can just bring way more healers then you need and cheese loving up the mechanics unless they are one shot mechanics which isn't fun either because we are not robots. I still don't see a problem with this. So if you bring 15 healers to a raid and brute force mechanics the boss will take an hour to kill. That seems like punishment enough?
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Aug 26, 2015 02:37
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Everyone who plays mmos seriously should just play dragons dogma. Once you beat dragons dogma you should play dragons dogma again with a different character.
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Aug 28, 2015 03:53
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On the wow talk- There is a wotlk private server (gamer district.. i think?) that has cross faction dungeons. So i mean if a private server can do it....
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Sep 1, 2015 23:25
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Why don't they understand how brilliant 10 hours of mandatory max level questing is. *sighs and places hand over his heart while looking at my sephiroth wallscroll*
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Sep 6, 2015 10:14
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Somehow managed to double post from phone Mmos are bad. Gw2 is probably the least bad because it is the least mmo
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Sep 6, 2015 10:14
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Libluini posted:What the hell does that mean? Is it possible to physically carry characters around in FFIXIV and for some reason people frown upon this? getting carried basically means someone else carries your weight. 90% of the time its kids screaming you didnt play perfectly and scape goating you for all imagined failures. 10% of the time its the same kid wearing +healing gear on his rogue and hitting the CC monsters.
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Sep 6, 2015 14:37
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Niton posted:LFR is great because it completely proves my point - Blizzard keeps trying to leave some barebones semblance of mechanics in LFR fights, and - without fail - groups are incapable of completing them, to the point of either wiping repeatedly for damage buffs or simply disbanding. 100% agree with pretty much everything your saying. I think the people who say "content should be do-able by everyone" should be forced to play group content with the bottom 25% of any game. Pretty sure your opinions will change.
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Sep 7, 2015 14:34
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SerCypher posted:Maybe this is a weird viewpoint, but I like really hard content that I might never clear before nerfs. Gonna quote because this post is cool and has right opinions.
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Sep 8, 2015 14:59
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Mizuti posted:Do the chua in Wildstar have any good voice acting or animations, or are they just a dud across the board? The jumping/landing animation for chua is amazing. That's it.
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Sep 10, 2015 08:59
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The Moon Monster posted:Oh man, how poo poo was it when the punishing vanilla respec prices forced you to fully commit to pvp dps/pve dps/other. Depends on class/role. Most dps specs, unless you were super cereal guild, could just run a pvp spec pve and lose very little dps. Mages were all frost anyways, since MC and BWL had plenty of fire immune mobs. Most talents were either good or bad at everything, so a pvp spec or a pve spec was like minor talent choices different, never the major ones. Healers didnt really have pvp specs because disc was a joke, and non priests were niche at best. All druids went 31 resto for innervate or kick. No you cant feral dps billy its terrible, 50 dkp minus. Tank characters were tanks. forever. Their repair cost alone typically meant a raiding guild was taking donation from other member to keep their tanks (all 5 of them, lol vanilla wow) out of the red, so switching specs was out of the question. And by tanks i mean warriors, because they were the only ones who could tank in vanilla. I guess the only person who really put up with constant spec switching would be a priest who liked to raid and also wanted to be shadow for pvp, because shadow priests melted face in vanilla.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I played Skyforge for a bit when it came out of Beta and it seemed like the most naked, soulless grind. That I would have had to play for over a month just to unlock the class I actually wanted to play as didn't really help that feeling. Skyforge is warframe the mmo. Grind to unlock things that let you grind differently.
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Sep 14, 2015 02:25
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Kelp Plankton posted:because its an MMO i guess Reasonably it would allow you to have a system where items can be crafted for much less resources with a risk. making 5 boots and failing 2 would cost as much materials as making 3 boots in a non fail system. This is not the case in wildstar cupcake.
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Sep 17, 2015 08:34
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The best mmo crafting isn't the real crafting system but quests that have you building awsome items. Wow did this really good with that tanking sword at 60 (forgot name) and a few legendaries.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:I never played Wildstar, did the game have any redeeming values outside of player housing? Loud annoying Nostalgia wannabe baby makes it sound like it had so much "potential" poo poo I hate to say I agree with just about everything a yelling youtube man says.. but yeah If you want a real well thought out reason why wildstar sucks so bad watch this video.
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Sep 25, 2015 07:07
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mmo poster, anime avater, pedo. yep checks out boss.
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hey mod guy can we go ahead and ban the dude talking about his love for pedo porn in the mmo wildstar thread? I mean that seems like pretty much the definition of the job of a mod ok thanks. wildstar update 2015- game still bad.
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Sep 27, 2015 13:14
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biznatchio posted:We should have started a betting pool to see who can guess how they're going to gently caress up the F2P launch, because we all know they're going to screw something up horribly. Taking safe bet here- wont properly prepare for the number of people who will try out there game (the poor souls) , massive lag and crashes.
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Sep 28, 2015 10:03
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Gonna be honest, gonna give this 2-3 days to get over the always hilarious launch issues. Then im gonna log on, be like "has this changed? Can this entertain me for more than 30 minutes?" The answer will be no.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:43
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Colgate posted:GW2 is one of those games that feels very well designed and playable, but I just find it so awfully boring that I just end up putting it down by the time I hit level 40. It doesn't help that the writing is a complete turd. gw2 kinda falls into normal mmo logic of "its only fun with friends" That said world vs world is a 24/7 good time. SFD and goon are in there about 80% of the day. Join some goons, blow up keeps, kill pubbies.
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Anatharon posted:also lol at every one of you tripping over yourselves to play this game after talking about how bad it was for over a year Im gonna give the thread the benefit of the doubt and assume its a combination of morbid curiosity and having nothing to lose (except time)
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