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that is a much better way of saying what i was trying to say edit: new page so this is what i was responding to (for your convenience) quote:It’s not that I’m not social. I’m social enough. But the tools you guys create actually manufacture unnaturally extreme social needs. No one needs the level of contact you’re purveying. It improves nothing. It’s not nourishing. It’s like snack food. You know how they engineer this food? They scientifically determine precisely how much salt and fat they need to include to keep you eating. You’re not hungry, you don’t need the food, it does nothing for you, but you keep eating these empty calories. This is what you’re pushing. Same thing. Endless empty calories, but the digital-social equivalent. And you calibrate it so it’s equally addictive. ---------------- |
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real_slime posted:Having no internet is pretty crappy really. Honestly, the most difficult part for me was a few hours at home when I had no phone or internet and I suddenly realized I gotta meet someone, anyone, since everyone was partying outside (evening of Independence day) and I stupidly forgot to make plans. I went outside to ask people for phonecalls till I found a friend who had the time and desire to meet me, but that feeling of isolation was awful. I didn't actually miss not being able to go on Facebook or something (except to contact people whom I couldn't reach via phone). |
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What is that eggers dude even talking about? What is the social equivalent of snack food, like Twitter? |
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Apr 24, 2015 17:56
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Or does he mean like board game night or other contrivances to hang out vs organic activities? |
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joke_explainer posted:What is that eggers dude even talking about? What is the social equivalent of snack food, like Twitter? He's an idiot. |
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i am he posted:He's an idiot. He means that drive to go online when you don't really have any reason to, to places like here or wherever - fb, twitter - doesn't actually satisfy your basic social need just in of itself, but people do it every day anyway the same way that we grab for a snickers between meals even though we probably don't need it and might feel a bit lovely because of it afterwards. It can be good and satisfying if you use it in the right way but there's always a danger of just reaching for it cos you're slightly bored, or having unpleasant thoughts (or the threat of them cropping up without you being totally conscious of it). It's all pretty related in the underlying motivations we have for various compulsive behaviour. Making life fun and interesting all the time is hard work so we just grab stuff nearby for that quick shot. Since it's so easy you can wind up only going for the quick shot and never putting any effort into the real thing which leaves you satisfied and improved most of the time rather than the reverse. It's really not such a contrived analogy. ---------------- |
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H.H posted:Honestly, the most difficult part for me was a few hours at home when I had no phone or internet and I suddenly realized I gotta meet someone, anyone, since everyone was partying outside (evening of Independence day) and I stupidly forgot to make plans. I went outside to ask people for phonecalls till I found a friend who had the time and desire to meet me, but that feeling of isolation was awful. I didn't have internet or a phone for about a year and after a few months I just got used to it. My friends would randomly show up at my house which was cool but mostly I worked on projects and read a lot of books. It also fixed the sleeping issues that plagued me since middle school. |
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Apr 24, 2015 23:36
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Wertjoe posted:I didn't have internet or a phone for about a year and after a few months I just got used to it. My friends would randomly show up at my house which was cool but mostly I worked on projects and read a lot of books. It also fixed the sleeping issues that plagued me since middle school. the Internet is honestly more of a distraction for me honestly  but id rather hang out here and chillax on friday nights than go outside
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real_slime posted:He means that drive to go online when you don't really have any reason to, to places like here or wherever - fb, twitter - doesn't actually satisfy your basic social need just in of itself, but people do it every day anyway the same way that we grab for a snickers between meals even though we probably don't need it and might feel a bit lovely because of it afterwards. It can be good and satisfying if you use it in the right way but there's always a danger of just reaching for it cos you're slightly bored, or having unpleasant thoughts (or the threat of them cropping up without you being totally conscious of it). It's all pretty related in the underlying motivations we have for various compulsive behaviour. Making life fun and interesting all the time is hard work so we just grab stuff nearby for that quick shot. Since it's so easy you can wind up only going for the quick shot and never putting any effort into the real thing which leaves you satisfied and improved most of the time rather than the reverse. I don't do any of that stuff. |
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Apr 25, 2015 02:19
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I've reverted to pooping in the toilet. ugh
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Apr 25, 2015 04:42
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yo check out dosoyevsky over here |
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Thanks for getting real, slime. It's good to see effort put back into the internet.
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