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 Trailer 2 Trailer 3 Age of Ultron opens today in Europe and on May 1 in America. Reviews are already trickling in. Rotten Tomatoes Score: 74% Metacritic Score: 66/100 BIFFORD'S REVIEW Is it good? Yes. Is it as good as The Avengers (2012)? About as good, I'd say. On one hand, the script is not quite as tight as the previous movie. It bounces here and there. Ultron's motives don't make a whole lot of sense; Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's motivations are likewise a little weak. Vision is superfluous - one extra plate for Joss Whedon to spin. He's also dull as dishwater. I feel like he was shoehorned into the film because Whedon felt he needed to tick off one more character from the comic book roster. One the plus side, there's more character building this time around, and it was a surprise to see Hawkeye becoming the emotional heart of the movie. Ultron is a funny and scary villain, every bit as enjoyable as Loki was in The Avengers. The action sequences are bigger and better. DO NOT FORGET TO USE SPOILER TAGS FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS Let the over-analysis begin... Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 17:35 on May 10, 2015 |
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I can't decide if this movie will have more robots, or more Avengers, but I think having a couple that can be on both sides of the equation doesn't help things.
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Apr 22, 2015 05:16
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It's dark times in the Marvelverse when the best/most competent movie is a sequel to Captain America, of all things.
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Apr 22, 2015 06:24
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Already bought tickets to see the 3d version later this afternoon (asia pacific time). Can't wait.
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Apr 22, 2015 06:27
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Drifter posted:It's dark times in the Marvelverse when the best/most competent movie is a sequel to Captain America, of all things. If these films represent the dark times for Marvel then I can't loving wait for the good times.
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Apr 22, 2015 06:36
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Colonel Whitey posted:If these films represent the dark times for Marvel then I can't loving wait for the good times. Once Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe they'll be able to reboot and then we'll get another 5 Spider-Man movies.
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Apr 22, 2015 06:51
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Drifter posted:Once Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe they'll be able to reboot and then we'll get another 5 Spider-Man movies. Hopefully with 3 brand new takes on the origin story!
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Apr 22, 2015 07:01
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I can't wait to see it and then immediately forget about it forever.
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Apr 22, 2015 10:37
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Martman posted:I can't wait to see it and then immediately forget about it forever. Then why see it?
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Apr 22, 2015 11:07
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Oasx posted:Then why see it?
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Apr 22, 2015 11:16
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Well might as well get some of the spoilers out of the way. The characters who end up dead are: Quicksilver and Ultron. Quicksilver get's wasted saving Hawkeye's life. Ultron has his connection to the internet severed and all his bodies are destroyed. If he comes back, they need to do a bunch of mental gymnastics. Does Shield appear with Nick Fury? Yup. Nick Fury appears at the end with a Helicarrier he scraps together. No sign of Agent Coulson or anyone from Agenst of Shield though. What cameo's were alluded to but didn't make it Spiderman and Loki are both MIA What's Ultron's Doomsday plan? You'd think it would be something obvious like Ultron's just building an infinite number of droids to overwhelm humanity and wipe it out or just go Skynet and launch nuclear weapons. Nope. Instead his plan is to lift an entire city by using Vibranium high enough, then crash it down in order to create an extinction class event.
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Apr 22, 2015 11:21
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I'm going the gently caress in.
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Apr 22, 2015 11:43
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Shadoer posted:Spoilers Since you're doing spoilers(even though this question isn't really a spoiler), whats the origin of SW/QS powers? Are they inhuman or something to do with the staff or both?
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Apr 22, 2015 11:54
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Drifter posted:It's dark times in the Marvelverse when the best/most competent movie is a sequel to Captain America, of all things. You spelled "Guardians of the Galaxy" wrong. Though aside from a lot of depressingly bad CG the second Captain America movie was darn good!
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Apr 22, 2015 12:40
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Away all Goats posted:Since you're doing spoilers(even though this question isn't really a spoiler), whats the origin of SW/QS powers? Are they inhuman or something to do with the staff or both? Something to do with the staff that's never clearly explained. What's weird (but I guess understandable) is how much the film directly continues from Avengers while ignoring all the films in the interim. Iron Man 3 may as well not have happened and I thought Captain America and Black Widow were sort of fugitives or something at the end of Winter Soldier.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:58
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so ultron's plot is basically a ripoff of graviton's plans from the best avengers adaptation, Earth's Mightiest Heroes also he is apparently Lawnmower Man
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Apr 22, 2015 13:04
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Just got back from watching this an hour ago and was surprised by how good and complex the action scenes were. I'd say 3d is worth it here. There were also lots of team sequences where it shows them combining or using powers for different moves. In the first avengers it happened maybe a couple times since they were unfamiliar with each other. I was also quite surprised how well the moments worked where they're just sitting around relaxing and talking. The drama never felt a bit rushed like in the first either. Lots of funny moments with Thor's hammer. It was such a central focus at times it was practically another character. Especially: When the avengers all take turns trying to lift the hammer while drinking and the insecure and then relieved look on Thor's face when Captain America fails to lift it. Also, when vision picks it up like nothing near the end and gives it back. Definitely better than avengers 1. Modus Operandi fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 13:39
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Shadoer posted:Does Shield appear with Nick Fury? The appearance or absence of certain characters in Shield could also point to something else. Agents of shield is a lovely show and the writers in Avengers 2 probably tried to ignore any and all regulars associated with it.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:50
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For those that seen it: Is there any kind of set up for Black Panther, or any truth to the Latino Reviews site saying they show a new team formed by Cap and we see surprise heroes?
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Apr 22, 2015 13:53
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Diabetic posted:For those that seen it: There is a big fight with the Hulk in Wakanda. Otherwise, nobody we haven't seen before in ads or previous movies.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:58
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Baron Bifford posted:There is a big fight with the Hulk in Wakanda. Otherwise, nobody we haven't seen before in ads or previous movies. I thought Andy Serkis was somebody related to this?
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Apr 22, 2015 14:00
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He's a panther badguy, and he's in Panthers back yard.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:05
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Shadoer posted:Well might as well get some of the spoilers out of the way. I don't understand why they would do this, aside from shock value. No one is going to be invested in that character, so the death is meaningless, although it provides an novel inversion of the usual trope of a woman getting killed to give motivation to a dude. Scarlet Witch will have some motivation to stick around the Avengers to honor her brother's memory, I guess. I'm sure they'll bring Quicksilver back somehow, but it would've carried more punch to kill off Hawkeye, since he's the bridge between the new heroes and the old guard, apparently.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:05
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MinibarMatchman posted:I thought Andy Serkis was somebody related to this? Rap Record Hoarder posted:I don't understand why they would do this, aside from shock value. No one is going to be invested in that character, so the death is meaningless, although it provides an novel inversion of the usual trope of a woman getting killed to give motivation to a dude. Scarlet Witch will have some motivation to stick around the Avengers to honor her brother's memory, I guess. I'm sure they'll bring Quicksilver back somehow, but it would've carried more punch to kill off Hawkeye, since he's the bridge between the new heroes and the old guard, apparently.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:06
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Modus Operandi posted:
One is (officially) written by Joss Whedon and the other by his wife and brother (with occasional help by Joss Whedon). I doubt the perceived lack of quality (which is pretty much a minority opinion since S01E16) is a reason.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:10
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Diabetic posted:For those that seen it: The new team at the end is Falcon, Vision, Scarlet Witch with Cap and BW there to instruct them. There's no surprise at all when you see who's left because various characters leave to attend to personal matters. No black panther.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:10
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Modus Operandi posted:Also, when vision picks it up like nothing near the end and gives it back. I got a good laugh at Vision's remark about the hammer having good balance and Thor sheepishly goes "you just need the right amount of weight so it's easier to swing"
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Apr 22, 2015 14:21
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spoil me. where does hulk end at the end if he isn't in the new team?
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Apr 22, 2015 14:27
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Disharmony posted:I got a good laugh at Vision's remark about the hammer having good balance and Thor sheepishly goes "you just need the right amount of weight so it's easier to swing" Thor's hammer I also liked that little conversation at the end when Cap is busting Thor's balls saying something to the effect that "if you put it in an elevator and the elevator moves it the elevator doesn't become the chosen one either." The quicksilver gag was pretty funny too when he tries to grab it in slow-mo and he goes flying into machines instead. Whedon really did put some thought into the typical comic nerd "what ifs" of the various powers.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:34
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ShineDog posted:spoil me. where does hulk end at the end if he isn't in the new team? He ends up alone in one of the cloaked quinjets and B.W. tries to coax him to turn the jet back on comms. He's still in hulk form and semi-lucid but instead sits down and lets the jet fly away on autopilot. Basically throughout the film there's a lot of Bruce Banner unresolved angst especially with the relationship he has with B.W. Later Nick Fury says that the jet crashed somewhere in the banda sea.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:37
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Baron Bifford posted:Serkis plays Ulysses Klau, a weapons merchant from whom Ultron steal a ton of vibranium. Isn't the Quicksilver guy contacted for a bunch more too?
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Apr 22, 2015 14:39
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Just saw the movie and thought it was fantastic. Some of the action scenes are just beyond belief. It makes the first movie look cheap. Modus Operandi posted:I was also quite surprised how well the moments worked where they're just sitting around relaxing and talking. This. As great as the action was this was maybe the best part. The only part of the movie I thought was rushed was Thor working out all the stuff related to the infinity stones. They introduce Selvig, they go to a cave together and suddenly Thor shows up later and he knows everything that will happen in the next 4 years of Marvel films . I also wasn't a huge fan of Ultron's master plan. It was a little bit contrived and unnecessary for someone with his abilities. Overall, it was a great loving time though. Maybe the best big time blockbuster movie I've ever seen. I'll definitely be seeing it again and buying it when it comes out on itunes.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:52
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The biggest plot hole of the movie is why did the Avengers not strip that Hydra castle of all its hardware? There was alien tech in there, and they just left it for Ultron to pick up.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:06
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Ghost Head posted:
Yes, Ultron's powers and his final plan didn't really make sense with how they explained it. He can replicate himself and use the internet to upload elsewhere wouldn't a sentient A.I. like that form fragments everywhere on the internet making him an unstoppable force? I know the main factory to build robots was only located in that old Hydra facility and the Stark lab but he could just as easily go dormant until he created new factories. Why was it necessary to create an extinction level comet to begin with..
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Apr 22, 2015 15:11
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Ultron's plan was loving stupid buuuuuuut other than that, a very enjoyable movie. Personally I'd put it close to or above Winter Soldier in being a lot of comic book fun. There's only one credits sequence, it's basically short and to the point. Also Hawk-Eye really is the lynchpin of the movie, gets the best lines and also a fairly decent surprise. 8.5/10, would def watch again.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:14
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Cat Terrist posted:Ultron's plan was loving stupid buuuuuuut other than that, a very enjoyable movie. Personally I'd put it close to or above Winter Soldier in being a lot of comic book fun. Hawkeye was so good in this. It really took me by surprise. The whole movie was bascially an incredible juggling act where everyone got their time in the spotlight to have their personalities and motivations elaborated on and Hawkeye got the best of it. Also, I just want to mention that even though Ultrons final plan was kind of contrived, as a character he was completely fascinating. Every time he was on screen I was absolutely captivated by what he saying or doing.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:41
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People who think superheroes shouldn't kill are going to be very upset because the Avengers have absolutely no compunction against using lethal force.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:44
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Baron Bifford posted:People who think superheroes shouldn't kill are going to be very upset because the Avengers have absolutely no compunction against using lethal force. Good. Between Daredevil, Batman and Superman the waah waah should I kill conflict is dead.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:48
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Just got back from this - some great gags, lots of real audience laughter. The quips are not just bearable, they are enjoyable. Real star of the film is Hawkeye.
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Baron Bifford posted:People who think superheroes shouldn't kill are going to be very upset because the Avengers have absolutely no compunction against using lethal force. Thats been the case since Ironman 1 though, he murders the poo poo out of some militia, he only kills whiplash in 2, Thor kills a bunch of giants and generic bads in Thor 1 and 2, Cap kills infinite hydra goons in cap 1/2 I rather like it, frankly.
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