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I downloaded few movies with Michael Shannon few days ago cause I liked Take Shelter and so I stumbled into My Son My Son What Have Ye Done. Had no idea it was by Herzog (and produced by David Lynch). I won't pretend being able to comment on it but this man is a great visionary and it's dazzling to see his works. Razzle them, dazzle them. Razzle-dazzle them!
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I'm a very big fan of Wheel of Time, his film about the 28th Kalachakra initiations of the Dalai Lama. The subject matter is perhaps a bit less immediately compelling than some of his other documentaries, but it is so well filmed in a quiet, contemplative manner that the two hours speed by.
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Apr 26, 2015 22:56
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i feel like herzog comes across like a very pretentious person but some of his movies are like the opposite of pretentious. its kinda wierd to think about.
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Apr 26, 2015 23:04
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:I'm a very big fan of Wheel of Time, his film about the 28th Kalachakra initiations of the Dalai Lama. The subject matter is perhaps a bit less immediately compelling than some of his other documentaries, but it is so well filmed in a quiet, contemplative manner that the two hours speed by. Dammit, why isn't this in english!?
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Apr 26, 2015 23:08
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Slaapaav posted:i feel like herzog comes across like a very pretentious person but some of his movies are like the opposite of pretentious. its kinda wierd to think about. I met him once, and he was one of the least pretentious people I have met. At the event I was at he talked to everyone, regardless of status. He was totally weird though.
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Apr 26, 2015 23:26
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MonsieurChoc posted:Dammit, why isn't this in english!? It is in English.
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:It is in English. the bulgarian subtitles fooled me.
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Apr 27, 2015 00:09
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Nouvelle Vague posted:I met him once, and he was one of the least pretentious people I have met. At the event I was at he talked to everyone, regardless of status. I've found more often than not that what people describe as pretentious says more about them than what they're describing
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Apr 27, 2015 00:41
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he talks about his movies in a way that is disturbing as gently caress. like when he gets interviewed working with kinski and he talks about the movie they are making being more important than both of their lives and them making the movie is some kind of thing that is important and will change the world. if your eyes dont roll out of your head listening to that there is something wrong with you.
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Apr 27, 2015 00:55
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i dunno that sounds pretty legit to me
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Apr 27, 2015 00:57
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people rate aguirre on everything that went down in making the movie or going on around it. they dont rate the actual movie. kinski has presence and the jungle is nice to look at but does the movie have anything else actually going for it? No i dont think so. its kinda cheap to call it a masterpiece simply due to all the behind the scenes stuff.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:09
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nah it's pretty much one of the 10 dopest movies ever made. if anything, it's Fitzcarraldo that gets kinda outshined by its making of.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:25
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what besides the jungle footage makes you rate aguirre in the top 10? I did get some kicks from kinski being a crazy spaniard but did i miss anything else? The narrative is a complete miss for me
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Apr 27, 2015 01:32
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This thread is a good reminder that I need to be watching more of his films. I've only seen about 16 or so of his works, and yet I can't get enough. I tend to be more partial to his recent documentary work myself (Love the The White Diamond/Grizzly Man/Encounters at the End of the World "trilogy"), though he has done many other things I enjoy immensely. His version of Nosferatu, particularly the ending, is very haunting.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:50
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There's a goon that watched all and reviewed some of his works in the Pick A Director thread, if you want some perspectives.
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Slaapaav posted:what besides the jungle footage makes you rate aguirre in the top 10? I did get some kicks from kinski being a crazy spaniard but did i miss anything else? The narrative is a complete miss for me 1. It's a brilliant portrait of the madness within our souls 2. It's beautifully filmed - I mean that loving opening shot is one of the greatest shots in all of cinema 3. It's funny as hell. 4. It manages to balance humor and dread to create a surreal and unique experience that becomes more and more dreamlike and absurd as the raft descends deeper into the heart of the jungle 5. Monkeys 6. That one shot where the butterfly lands on the man's hand 7. Great screenplay 8. Every loving thing about this movie down to the extras
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Slaapaav posted:what besides the jungle footage makes you rate aguirre in the top 10? I did get some kicks from kinski being a crazy spaniard but did i miss anything else? The narrative is a complete miss for me lmao why would you pick on Aguirre out of all of his movies as the one with nothing going on It's probably the best cinematic decline into madness ever made and almost almost makes Herzog's opinion that Kinski was worth the hassle make sense his henchman too goddamn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a_NhhaoMpw
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Apr 27, 2015 04:30
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Slaapaav posted:what besides the jungle footage makes you rate aguirre in the top 10? I did get some kicks from kinski being a crazy spaniard but did i miss anything else? The narrative is a complete miss for me Maybe learn how to use your shift button.
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Apr 27, 2015 13:23
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Slaapaav posted:he talks about his movies in a way that is disturbing as gently caress. like when he gets interviewed working with kinski and he talks about the movie they are making being more important than both of their lives and them making the movie is some kind of thing that is important and will change the world. Except the guy did legit insanely dangerous things and risked his life to make amazing movies. That's, like, the diametric opposite of pretension.
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Apr 27, 2015 13:53
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Slaapaav posted:what besides the jungle footage makes you rate aguirre in the top 10? I did get some kicks from kinski being a crazy spaniard but did i miss anything else? The narrative is a complete miss for me Honestly for me the passion and effort it took to make Aguirre is so apparent on-screen that the narrative(which is great, but obviously you disagree) is just a bonus. You reduce it to two words, the "jungle footage", but when I watch the film I can't help but think about what went into that footage. The costumes are some of the best you'll ever see, the rafts are exactly what the locals would use because they constructed them. I've been to a rainforest in Central America and Aguirre is the only film I've ever seen that makes you feel like you're there. The feeling of isolation, that you are completely separated from civilization is palpable in Aguirre, all because of "the jungle footage". There's a reason why poo poo like this just isn't done, when you watch Aguirre you are basically seeing a miracle on-screen.
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Apr 27, 2015 14:58
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I cant identify with the main characters at all. they are so alien in the way they act, the way they interact with each other is so strange. it would have helped me if the movie was from the perspective of one of the sane natives or i got to see them transition from normal into crazy. the film just goes "Hey these crazy people from 1500whatever ad are going around the rain forest, Good luck have fun!"
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Apr 27, 2015 18:21
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TrixRabbi posted:2. It's beautifully filmed - I mean that loving opening shot is one of the greatest shots in all of cinema The way it ends with the loaded cannon falling and exploding just foreshadows everything in the film. Also, the shot with the ship in the trees. What a surreal image.
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Apr 27, 2015 18:45
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I love that not only is Herzog an amazing director, has an amazingly unique voice, but also he is in the general zeitgeist of our culture now as a well respected insane person. See his short but very good cameo on Parks & Rec and such for a good example of that.
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jeeves posted:I love that not only is Herzog an amazing director, has an amazingly unique voice, but also he is in the general zeitgeist of our culture now as a well respected insane person. I saw a car commercial recently that was going for a documentary-like feel and the voiceover guy was doing a mediocre Herzog impression.
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Apr 27, 2015 20:16
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TrixRabbi posted:3. It's funny as hell. It's weird how Herzog's movies don't seem funny at first glance, but are really really funny once you get into them. I loved everything involving the police in My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done because it was just so absurd. Made me wish Herzog would make a Transformers movie, the military would just stand around drinking coffee all day.
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I've only seen Aguirre, Bad Lieutenant, Cave of Forgotten Dreams, and Encounters at the End of the World. Those detracting Aguirre seem to miss the point. It's a film that I initially was going to watch a few minutes before going to sleep, then ended up watching the entire film because I was so drawn into it. Any movie that gets you to stick with it all the way through when you're ready for bed is a good movie.
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Basebf555 posted:I saw a car commercial recently that was going for a documentary-like feel and the voiceover guy was doing a mediocre Herzog impression. Coca Cola is also currently running an ad campaign where a bad Herzog impression narrates footage of teenagers drinking soda
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Apr 28, 2015 13:30
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Anyone remember Herzog's cameo in Boondocks? Or did i dream that?
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Apr 28, 2015 20:55
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:Anyone remember Herzog's cameo in Boondocks? Or did i dream that? It was real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90OrQIpF60o Although, Metalocalypse's Dethcarraldo episode was better.
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Apr 28, 2015 21:15
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Oh that happened, because he is down for anything. He played himself doing a documentary about the 2008 election. Film nerds love imitate him because why the hell not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZbVgn9fZ9c
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The only things of his I've seen are Rescue Dawn and Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans. I've seen a couple interviews with him now and he does indeed seem a bit crazy, but in a fun way. Although I like his version of Bad Lieutenant I am a bit shocked and surprised that he didn't give a poo poo about the original. I think the original was a great film. Anyway, putting this director on my tracking list.
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I've only known two other people who have watched Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans. Neither liked it, coincidentally the were also both drunks, so maybe it hit a little too close to home.
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I watched Rescue Dawn the other day and it's a strange movie. As it turns out, Dieter's story can't really be impressively dramatized in two hours as well as it can be told in eighty minutes as in Little Dieter Needs to Fly. The pacing is very weird and it is constantly rearing to get to the next point. It isn't a movie about his crash, or his capture, or his struggle versus the jungle, or his solitude. So what is it about? the best scenes are the ones with Dwayne and Dieter in the jungle, and Steve Zahn really shines in that role. The scenes where he's delirious and beaten and Bale keeps him going come off very true, and their relationship in that time is really touching. Other than that, the movie flies through every major point until it's over. The brutality and bleakness of the situation seemed much more real when the actual Dieter told it, so just another case of truth over fiction, I guess. If it weren't for the commercials on that other site I'd watch more, I want to get around to seeing Even Dwarfs Started Small and some others, although certain movies like Fata Morgana I kind of want to wait until I get a chance to see it in a real theater. It played at a local place (along with Nosferatu) a while back and I was dumb enough to not go.
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The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser is the last Herzog film I watched and it's extremely worth your time.
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mysterious frankie posted:The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser is the last Herzog film I watched and it's extremely worth your time. yeah this one gets overlooked in general and in particular overshadowed by Stroszek but it's a beautiful movie in its own right. it hits me harder on an emotional level than any of his other stuff. i tear up at the same point that Kaspar tears up.
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I put on Happy People every chance I get when I'm hanging out someplace where people are watching random National Geographic shows. Everybody loves dogs and the whole thing is just so beautiful and compelling. I'm also super glad I got to see the theatrical release of Cave of Forgotten Dreams in 3D, really haunting and magical.
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h_double posted:I put on Happy People every chance I get when I'm hanging out someplace where people are watching random National Geographic shows. Everybody loves dogs and the whole thing is just so beautiful and compelling. What was the 3D in that like? I only saw it in 2D at home, and while I enjoyed the film I remember thinking that perhaps it runs a little long.
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One of my favorite Herzog documentaries is also on youtube. Gods Angry Man is about televangelist Gene Scott. It does an amazing job of humanizing and contextualizing someone who'd be shown as a grifter or saint in any other documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45cAaIHdozI Also not on youtube but probably his most mesmerizing film is Lessons of Darkness which is basically Fantasia set to burning oil field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t72P9kZrT_c Edit: More musicy clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYiNNeESu94 Bip Roberts fucked around with this message at 06:07 on May 5, 2015 |
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Slaapaav posted:people rate aguirre on everything that went down in making the movie or going on around it. they dont rate the actual movie. kinski has presence and the jungle is nice to look at but does the movie have anything else actually going for it? No i dont think so. its kinda cheap to call it a masterpiece simply due to all the behind the scenes stuff. Aguirre is a movie that wraps itself around you without your even consciously noticing because of how well it's made. What does it have going for it? Kinski, Herzog's wildly deliberate camera movement (or lack thereof), the soundtrack, the unravelling madness, everything. I'm not sure what else you want from it.
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Bip Roberts posted:Also not on youtube but probably his most mesmerizing film is Lessons of Darkness which is basically Fantasia set to burning oil field. This one is online at the Shout Factory link I posted in the OP.
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