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If all you care about is money you should find an annoying and unattractive guy/girl with really loving rich parents and marry into that cold hard cash. It'll take you like 1/100th the effort of the other poo poo listed here and you'll end up making 100x more.
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May 2, 2015 17:36
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:If all you care about is money you should find an annoying and unattractive guy/girl with really loving rich parents and marry into that cold hard cash. It'll take you like 1/100th the effort of the other poo poo listed here and you'll end up making 100x more. /thread
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May 2, 2015 20:34
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Antifreeze Head posted:6. Escort work. Seriously though if he spent a year getting cut as fuuuuuuck and was willing to do anything on camera couldn't he make 200k going gay for pay or at least come close? Heh cum close. Unless you're a woman then sorry for the  but that'd be even easier.Now that I think about it more that poo poo could be largely under the table too so you'd only have to make 125kish to effectively make 200k. Plus you could go on medicaid, snag some food stamps and knock it down even further to only needing to make what, 110k at that point? Yeah dude gay for pay. The answer is gay for pay. Veskit fucked around with this message at 21:26 on May 2, 2015 |
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May 2, 2015 21:17
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rakovsky maybe posted:Really, the responses so far are pretty disappointing. With ten years of absolute control over someone's life you can't make them relatively wealthy? I expected better. Not when we are looking at someone with your qualities. There is no sure bet with this sort of raw materials. As for reasonable possibilities, many people have already suggested coding.
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May 2, 2015 21:36
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I started my own business last year and went from 0 to...a lot more than 200k/year in about 6 months. Honestly I got real loving lucky and was in the right place at the right time and knew the right people. I also figured out a completely overlooked niche market. There's no guarantee to 200k/year. Find a new, cutting edge market (I picked mobile games 5 years ago) and become really good at it. Hope that market actually pans out.
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May 3, 2015 01:05
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Comrade Flynn posted:There's no guarantee to 200k/year. Find a new, cutting edge market (I picked mobile games 5 years ago) and become really good at it. Hope that market actually pans out.
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May 3, 2015 01:52
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moana posted:This. Except I would try a couple different, maybe related, markets and push in different directions, then take the one that's looking more lucrative (it will become obvious at a certain point). All of this is based on luck, timing, and innate skills. OP is asking for a sure fire way for an idiot with no skills and no passion to hustle his way to riches, and the best bet is still "find rich people no one wants to marry, then marry them".
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May 3, 2015 02:26
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Move out of NY, move to middle America, take your parents with you, and find a job there for less than 200k that will afford you a nice life. Seriously.
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May 3, 2015 12:39
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:All of this is based on luck, timing, and innate skills. OP is asking for a sure fire way for an idiot with no skills and no passion to hustle his way to riches, and the best bet is still "find rich people no one wants to marry, then marry them". Exactly. He is an idiot for asking for a guarantee. Aren't no guarantee for a dumbass like him. Many people have given him reasonable suggestions (including coding and small businesses). But nooooooo... He wants a *sure thing* for when he has no decent qualifications, work experience, skills or intellect.
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May 3, 2015 12:40
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Go to the blogs thread - the OP there said he makes $100/month from a blog with 50,000 page views per month and posts one article per week. Go to SA Mart and one of the goon hosting companies does a plan for 750GB bandwith for $80/year. So he's making $1200 and spending (potentially) $80. That's $1120/year profit. To make $200k you'd need 179 blogs making the same amount of cash, all of which would need to be updated once per week. This means you'd have to update 25-26 blogs per day, and with such a small amount of profit per blog you'd need to be creating your own content. Which is borderline impossible. The good news is that if you could make $200/month per blog you'd only need 90 blogs, if you could make $400/month you'd only need 45 blogs, $800/month 23 blogs and so on. If you had 23 blogs you'd need to update 3-4 a day, devoting maybe 2 hours to each. You could hire an online assistant (these are usually in low wage countries where they speak good English, the Phillipines seems to be a popular choice) for maybe $10k/year (median wage there is about $8000/year) to do all your updating, so you just email him the content and he gets it online. So yeh. Start 23 niche blogs and find a poo poo hot assistant, as well as find $1500 to invest in all the wordpress themes you'll need, plus the $80 hosting cost (presumably you could keep all the blogs on the same hosting package until they pick up in traffic?) and walla, you're rich. You're welcome!
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May 3, 2015 17:11
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Elephanthead posted:All wrong. Be a mortician. The baby boomers are going to start dying like crazy.
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May 4, 2015 03:23
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fruition posted:You need to start a business if you want to make $200k/year in the shortest amount of time possible, but obviously the risk is huge and the chance of succeeding requires an enormous amount of luck on top of devoting every waking moment of your life to the business. Serious answer: Get a CDL and work for a large trucking company for a year or two to learn the ropes. While driving the road listen to audio books about how to run a profitable trucking fleet of 10-20 trucks. Buy a cheap truck for ~25k and start that business, adding two cheap trucks and then upgrading to ~50k trucks and then once you have about 10 trucks you can look at new trucks. My boss is doing this, and while right now most of his business's money goes into expansion, if he decided to stop buying more trucks he could pull down $200k. You could maaaaaybe jump right in and buy three trucks and hire three drivers, but drivers are far more likely to work for a former driver than some person who has never pulled freight. edit: I want you to get deep into truck equity. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 4, 2015 |
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May 4, 2015 03:37
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I have a friend from Nigeria who moved to Dallas and did just that. I think he's up to two dozen trucks; makes a pretty good living.
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May 4, 2015 06:03
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I've decided I want to make money. Novel idea, I know. Has anyone come up with this before? I feel like I'm on to something, but I must have missed that day in college where they told everyone how to make money. I was in the help the world class.
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May 4, 2015 15:08
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Work on an oil rig and sell prescription narcotics to your coworkers on the side, and also start a side business and learn to code on the side. Do this for ~5 years and you should be golden. Just avoid death or jail IMO
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May 4, 2015 15:11
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Underwater welder, or really anything associated with welding and the oil biz.
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May 4, 2015 22:27
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International financier is also pretty lucrative, think like...they guys who step off private jets in Antigua and Zurich with no luggage.
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May 4, 2015 22:38
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:If all you care about is money you should find an annoying and unattractive guy/girl with really loving rich parents and marry into that cold hard cash. It'll take you like 1/100th the effort of the other poo poo listed here and you'll end up making 100x more. Only works if you're attractive yourself though, so could be a lot of effort if you're a fat goon.
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May 4, 2015 22:43
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rakovsky maybe posted:1. 1. You could get a business administration degree or similar and get a job with alright pay. Better than you current degree's earning potential but not hitting $200k. You need some business experience to get a job worth $200k per year. 2. These degrees are only useful in the context of what I stated in 1. An MBA is worthless other than networking. While on holiday I bought a book for $25 AUD that contains the majority of what you would learn in an MBA. I did a lot of the content while completing my chemistry degree so the book is good and better value for money that paying tuition costs/wasting your life. 3. Might as well try selling luxury cars to the rich and super-rich you'd make more money. 4. If you get a few years experience in the army, or a police tactical unit you could qualify as a mercenary. Just remember the danger pay excludes medical insurance (medical is a major benefit of being a soldier in a warzone) and the type of injuries you could receive could be expensive to treat including airlift costs. 5. You could make money or you could blow it all. Really the oil rig option is a good option. The super large money that some of my family members make relates to substantial experience combined with an engineering degree. It takes a long time to get to the top jobs and you may need to wait for someone to retire, or in the current environment their contract to be cancelled. You could take a practical option of having your budget reviewed and calculating the amount you have to make/save/invest to achieve you goal.
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May 4, 2015 23:55
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District Selectman posted:Work on an oil rig and sell prescription narcotics to your coworkers on the side, and also start a side business and learn to code on the side. Do this for ~5 years and you should be golden. Just avoid death or jail IMO
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May 5, 2015 03:10
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FateFree posted:I personally think it would be possible and even easy to approach 200k in ten years with a programming job and ten years of focus. You don't need to go to college for it, a buddy of mine came from a business degree and did a coding boot camp for 2 or 3 months (and either 12 or 20k) and had a job making 90k a few months later. The catch is you have to be good at your job, which means you code at work and code at home to learn more. If you like coding, this will happen either way. There is always more to learn. When you're talking about programming, what sort of specific work are you thinking of? I don't know the field very well but I know people differentiate between app development, web sites, etc. I'm not looking for $200k/yr, just a solid career change and so I'm trying to figure out what the best path would be in world of self-taught programming. Thanks.
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May 5, 2015 05:18
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Have you considered moving to China and being an a rental foreigner? http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-rent-a-foreigner-industry-is-booming-2015-4
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May 5, 2015 14:01
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FateFree posted:I personally think it would be possible and even easy to approach 200k in ten years with a programming job and ten years of focus. You don't need to go to college for it, a buddy of mine came from a business degree and did a coding boot camp for 2 or 3 months (and either 12 or 20k) and had a job making 90k a few months later. The catch is you have to be good at your job, which means you code at work and code at home to learn more. If you like coding, this will happen either way. There is always more to learn. Is the boot camp thing the best way to learn to code? I'm employed in a fairly decent job in the legal field but I've been wanting to learn coding in the event that I just can't take anymore and need to make a change. My work schedule is really cyclical and I started the Harvard CS50 class online back when I had more time a couple months ago, but that is mostly C-focused and everyone I've talked to says C is not the most useful thing. I just don't know where to begin with trying to teach myself.
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May 5, 2015 15:24
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Mons Hubris posted:Is the boot camp thing the best way to learn to code? I'm employed in a fairly decent job in the legal field but I've been wanting to learn coding in the event that I just can't take anymore and need to make a change. My work schedule is really cyclical and I started the Harvard CS50 class online back when I had more time a couple months ago, but that is mostly C-focused and everyone I've talked to says C is not the most useful thing. I just don't know where to begin with trying to teach myself. I learned by picking up a book at Barnes and Noble. It really helped me to have a project in mind before I got started (I wanted to make money off the software). For free resources there are http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ https://www.railstutorial.org/book https://www.codeschool.com/ (some are free) I'd personally go with the Python book above as AFAIK Python will teach good habits (forcefully) that will translate well to other languages. Also the language you pick up doesn't really matter that much you can segue into others fairly easily once you're comfortable with one. C# and Java are good for jobs right now.
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May 5, 2015 16:35
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Serious post: set your sights a little lower. Unless you hit the right niche in the right market, hitting $200k with your current qualifications is going to involve changing sectors, putting in a ton of work, and a lot of luck. And you say "I don't mind hard work," but I'm not even talking about hard work, I'm just talking about a lot of work. Working a lot loving sucks rear end, and you do it why? So you can have a bunch more stuff when you'll be The 40-hour work week is where it's at. You're already in the government sector, so that's where your current experience is going to have the most cache. Instead of trying to totally switch industries, just try to change to something in the government sector that pays more. Check the USA Jobs thread for how to find federal work, check out your city and county governments as well. You can look at non-profits, too, but the pay and benefits there tend to be poo poo. Are you ever going to make over $200k in the government sector? Probably not, and almost certainly not anytime soon. But it does have great benefits, and you can totally make enough that you'll be able to buy a house before you're 40, and have it paid off by the time you retire. You'll likely have a pension, and once you're in, it's fairly secure, just getting more and more secure as time goes on. Since you're a budding sociopath, you may want to look into police work. They'd probably look favorably on your social work background, again, the benefits are great, and you can hit six figures pretty quickly with overtime (especially in NYC). At the moment, they're probably looking to recruit people, too, given the current (and accurate) poo poo opinion people have of the NYPD. $200k is a lot more within reach there, but it's also a significant amount of work, with some serious downsides. This is probably your best money-making strategy, from a pure risk/likely payoff perspective.
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May 5, 2015 17:54
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Thanatosian posted:Since you're a budding sociopath, you may want to look into police work.  This was the best reply I've seen!
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May 5, 2015 18:40
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You can make 200k in the oil industry if you're smart. Only problem is with the low oil prices the industry is a little dead right now. I was making about 10-12k a month last year, this year we've been sitting a hell of a whole lot and probably making half that :\ So I'd just watch oil prices, they could go back up in one year, or it could be twenty years from now, but poo poo, you might as well. Here's how a lot of my coworkers made over 200k, basically you do what I do, work as a company driver, and in 3-6 months, you can save up for a beater truck and an operations/maintenance fund (around 20-30k needed to startup), lease onto one of the oilfield carriers, and boom, even working 10 months a year you'll gross between 350-500k a year, after business expenses, taxes, etc, you will probably take home 150-200k a year. Best part of this is all it required me and other dudes was a CDL, $1500 at a lot of community colleges and only about 1-2 months of schooling. Dudes I work with are lucky and joined the oil industry several years ago, it looks like I was too late to the party to get the big money. But I'll be watching the oil prices, until then I'm quitting in August and will fug around doing other things.
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May 5, 2015 19:17
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Devian666 posted:2. These degrees are only useful in the context of what I stated in 1. An MBA is worthless other than networking. While on holiday I bought a book for $25 AUD that contains the majority of what you would learn in an MBA. I did a lot of the content while completing my chemistry degree so the book is good and better value for money that paying tuition costs/wasting your life. What was the title of the book? I was thinking about getting an MBA but then I realised I mostly just want to learn more about accounting and financial math and that seems like a smart place to start.
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May 5, 2015 19:39
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I have some steps that will get you a comfortable job, but it may take a few years: 1. Learn Excel really well, by buying a book. Learn it up to the point where you are learning the VBA that underlies the program. 2. Learn SQL really well, at least querying. 3. Learn the basics of data science. How to clean/scrub data, etc. 4. Go to Khan academy and learn as much as you possibly can about statistics. 5. Learn a statistical language like SAS/R. SAS may be hard because you need an expensive license. .... 6. Start studying for, and pass, your CFA. Now you have the requisite skills and education to get a job as a financial analyst. Your career is set, there are plenty of jobs in this field, and you will earn good money. This is all doable, but you will need tremendous work ethic to self-teach yourself all of this. Ideally after steps 1-5 you can find an entry level analyst job that will give you income while you take the 3+ years to pass the CFA.
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May 5, 2015 20:14
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Pron on VHS posted:I have some steps that will get you a comfortable job, but it may take a few years: My friend is in the process of doing this, but was only able to get the entry level analyst job with her English BA by being fluently bilingual, with experience as a bilingual representative at a call center for vendors. She does make good money, though.
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May 5, 2015 20:58
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Pympede posted:What was the title of the book? I was thinking about getting an MBA but then I realised I mostly just want to learn more about accounting and financial math and that seems like a smart place to start. The Personal MBA by Seth Godin. It has a section on finance which is a basic but effective introduction if you have never studied accounting. That section then goes onto topics covered in economics and management science/operations research. Plenty of other good stuff in there for a relatively low cost book.
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May 5, 2015 21:10
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Do you mean the personal MBA by Josh kaufman? I appreciate your help with this btw.
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Pympede posted:Do you mean the personal MBA by Josh kaufman? I appreciate your help with this btw. Yes, you are correct. I typed the first name noted on the cover by accident. Devian666 fucked around with this message at 04:10 on May 6, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 02:36
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Thanks man, I'm pretty pumped to give it a shot.
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OP, Sales or a trade You already have the undergrad degree, now take the prereqs and get into an MBA, MS Finance, or MS accounting, and bullshit your way into some job with that. If you're as much a sociopath as this thread seems to think, you'll be on your way to a corner office. Just don't forget to synergize your buzzwords. Pron on VHS posted:I have some steps that will get you a comfortable job, but it may take a few years: I just applied for a financial analyst job that pays up to $85k, which is more than double what I make now. Slim chance I'll be hired at this point, but I think I'll start doing the above. Moneyball fucked around with this message at 04:36 on May 6, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 04:32
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Mons Hubris posted:Is the boot camp thing the best way to learn to code? I'm employed in a fairly decent job in the legal field but I've been wanting to learn coding in the event that I just can't take anymore and need to make a change. My work schedule is really cyclical and I started the Harvard CS50 class online back when I had more time a couple months ago, but that is mostly C-focused and everyone I've talked to says C is not the most useful thing. I just don't know where to begin with trying to teach myself. It probably depends on the type of person you are. My buddy did the http://flatironschool.com/ 3 month course for 12k. There is a 6 month course for 20k as well. However you could learn just as much yourself if you were truly dedicated and read some books, or took some online courses. He also said that there were people taking the course only because they wanted to make more money, and they rarely did well. But if you are more likely to follow through with something because you paid for it, it could help. If I were you, I'd just buy a Head First Java book and read through it. Thats a great way to learn the essence of programming, at least to see if its something you enjoy. And Java isn't going anywhere. Tenacious J posted:When you're talking about programming, what sort of specific work are you thinking of? I don't know the field very well but I know people differentiate between app development, web sites, etc. I'm not looking for $200k/yr, just a solid career change and so I'm trying to figure out what the best path would be in world of self-taught programming. Thanks. I have always done backend Java web development in my career, not so much the html/css/js but what happens behind the scenes ie database access, service logic, webservices etc. Knowing the front end piece is definitely helpful. However for side work I do either full web sites or android apps, which I hate because the API is so hideous but people keep paying me to build them so I can't turn them down. Plenty of money in stupid little mobile apps if you can stand the platform.
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May 6, 2015 04:59
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Thanks for the replies. Good to know you can self-teach and get decent results. I guess I didn't realize you could get job interviews without some kind of degree or certifications.
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May 6, 2015 14:16
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Moneyball posted:But am I just crazy, or is a single income of 200k way overkill for even a great life? Every long-term goal should be overkill, and the fact that people here are able to suggest realistic ways for the OP to make $200k/yr within the next few years is just evidence that he's aiming too low.
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EB Nulshit posted:Every long-term goal should be overkill, and the fact that people here are able to suggest realistic ways for the OP to make $200k/yr within the next few years is just evidence that he's aiming too low. Anything is possible with the right amount of risk! My proposed plan involves the possibility of serious injury, death, and jail time.
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