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Ervin K posted:Now that I recently finished my education I'm making around $14 an hour, and the idea that some teenager can get a zero-skill job and start getting paid more than I did after years of studying is absurd. This is and has always been the flimsiest argument against a higher minimum wage. If you are happy with your job, how much you make there should be irrelevant compared to what others make elsewhere, and if you were making 15 an hour like everyone else and you were not happy with your job, you should get another one. Other people making enough money to not starve or have to live paycheck to paycheck would be beneficial to the economy, and therefore to you, in every way unless you were a massively wealthy CEO who had to buy one less yacht every year.
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Ervin K posted:Still better than 90% of arguments in favor of it. How is that better of an argument than 'maybe people starving because they make such low wages is a bad thing and we should fix that' or 'this would stimulate the economy and bring more wealth to everyone but the most wealthy'? Ervin K posted:Also since you missed something very clear, I was arguing against a $15/hr minimum wage. I did not miss this at all, that was exactly what I was responding to 
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May 5, 2015 02:50
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Ervin K posted:Technically, my job didn't exist 20 years ago, it's not a field that people go to to make a lot of money. So you're working in a field and admitting that you aren't doing it to make a lot of money. This indicates you enjoy what you are doing. Why would you then be against other people making a living wage as you do? Why would you want others to not make enough money to reasonably survive on?
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May 5, 2015 02:56
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Ervin K posted:Well I'm not surprised my point went over your head. What I was trying to say is that no government policy is going to change the value of low skill jobs. But keep crying about "DEM CONSERVATIVES Government policy has already changed the value of low-skill jobs by failing to increase the minimum wage in step with inflation, therefore devaluing those jobs.
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May 5, 2015 03:13
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Ervin K posted:i used to live in the suburbs This explains why you seem to have absolutely no perspective on what it's like to be poor in America.
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May 5, 2015 03:18
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paragon1 posted:Area Man Accuses Bystanders of Throwing a Temper Tantrum With Angry Tears Welling Up Look he used to live in the suburbs once, he clearly understands poverty in America and that people should just deal with it
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May 5, 2015 03:25
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Typo posted:*Is unironically proud of the fact that he doesn't want to have a rational discussion. I'm unsure as to what kind of rationality one could bring into a conversation about minimum wage that advocates keeping it as it is now. By all means, I would love to hear what you have to say.
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May 5, 2015 03:28
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I'd say that the sheer misery of fast food and retail jobs alone is the best argument for a 15/hr minimum wage. Those terrible jobs still would be miserable and soul-crushing but at least people could support themselves on them.
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