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Skwirl posted:I forgot about that, it's an especially poor choice since the King of Spain was actually instrumental in bringing back free elections after Castro's death. You mean Franco I think.
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Edge & Christian posted:Which incident is that? It was a cover for Echo or Elektra or something like that, might've been a MAX comic. I distinctly remember someone making a thread about his friend's decision to call the original copyright holder, and everyone angrily making GBS threads on them for it.
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twistedmentat posted:You mean Franco I think. I heard that he is still dead
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Lurdiak posted:It was a cover for Echo or Elektra or something like that, might've been a MAX comic. I distinctly remember someone making a thread about his friend's decision to call the original copyright holder, and everyone angrily making GBS threads on them for it. 1) Someone links to a Lying in the Gutters column featuring a number of blatant swipes by David Mack (this is the one that got the most attention and had posted to CBR the previous week, where David Mack took a fashion ad and basically added a katana to make a New Avengers cover) 2) Various people get outraged that David Mack is being compared to Greg Land, but others point out he has it coming with this level of swiping. 3) A poster says his friend sent an e-mail to the agency that did the ad, and reposts their apparent response, which is that they've already contacted Marvel. 4) Some people (including hermanos) make snitching jokes, posters who like to insult people (Crion, indigi, Rhyno) insult people, hermanos tells everyone to leave the initial poster alone. 5) The cover actually gets pulled, which people tie into that "no tracing" memo that was from like a year and a half earlier and probably in response to the Mayhew story I mentioned earlier. So yeah, people still shouldn't trace, the jury is out on snitching.
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Edge & Christian posted:So yeah, people still shouldn't trace, the jury is out on snitching. Snitches get stitches OR snitches get bitches. Vote now!
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Blockhouse posted:snitches get riches First you get the money, then you get the power...
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SirDan3k posted:I don't think Land even uses references anymore I think he's got a stock of pre-traced work set up in photoshop that he plops down like a lovely web comic artist. I wonder how much dosh it would take to get Land to make an unironic version of Loss. redbackground posted:Here, knock yourself out. (from 2008, but whatever) I'm not one to defend Land, but in that first link, it cites an example using Boris Karloff's Mummy. While it's clear that image was used as a reference, the linework and shading suggests to me that's all it was. I don't think Land traced that ONE particular image. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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twistedmentat posted:You mean Franco I think. God drat it, you're right. That was a weird brain fart. I have Catalan relatives for gently caress's sake that's how I knew the factoid to begin with.
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I've been a sucker for duplicate versions of people from the same reality ever since Reboot, so while it'd be tricky to do well and most people won't be clamoring for it or anything, I'd personally enjoy a story with Maker Reed or Miles interacting with the recreated Ultimate universe, and coming across the versions of themselves that were re-created by Franklin. I think Maker Reed would be the more interesting story, I see it as a race to see which one kills the other first. I highly doubt anything like that'll happen because on top of them probably not wanting to touch on the Ultimate universe for a long time (though it's Marvel, so I have to assume it'll come up again at some point in the future) it seems like other Raft survivors like both Spider-man's and Black Panther didn't have to deal with duplicates when they arrived. Oh, and the Molecule Man helping Miles by bringing back his mom is the obvious favor, but it's fun to think that his favor was bringing him whole hog into the standard marvel universe to keep getting our attention and the mom revival was just a coincidence.
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I think that 616 was the only one that was recreated to be similar to what it was. If all they were doing was restoring the old universe, then they wouldn't need Franklin's imagination.
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Senor Candle posted:I think that 616 was the only one that was recreated to be similar to what it was. If all they were doing was restoring the old universe, then they wouldn't need Franklin's imagination.
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There's probably no good explanation. Brevoort was already in a tizzy about Web Warriors calling the main Earth 616.
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So is there just one universe now, like DC did for like 10 minutes before everyonre realizing that was boring?
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Yeah, they explicitly say that what Franklin is doing is making universes, as in plural. Basically the FF are staying there and repopulating the universe using Molecule Man and Franklin's combined powers.
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So, in the end, those were the original 616 Sue and kids hanging with Doom? Not re-creations like everybody else?
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redbackground posted:So, in the end, those were the original 616 Sue and kids hanging with Doom? Not re-creations like everybody else? The line is very fuzzy when you are talking about a god. But yes, mostly. They may have also died when the raft broke.
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redbackground posted:So, in the end, those were the original 616 Sue and kids hanging with Doom? Not re-creations like everybody else? No. They were fabrications.
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Nevvy Z posted:But yes, mostly. Welp.
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Can someone that knows how to Twitter just ask Hickman about it? Dude probably has a detailed map of who died when and who survived / was recreated.
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The only people who were authentic 616 were the people on the life rafts, Doom, Strange and Beyonder. Everyone else was a recreation, who in some cases were exactly the character they were elsewhere and in other cases were similar but different.
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PaybackJack posted:The only people who were authentic 616 were the people on the life rafts, Doom, Strange and Beyonder. Everyone else was a recreation, who in some cases were exactly the character they were elsewhere and in other cases were similar but different. I don't think that's right. In the last issue Doom defended himself by stating that, while imperfect in its implementation, Battleworld saved "millions." So I assume that many of the folks on Battleworld are an original from some universe (whether it's 616 or otherwise).
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squidgee posted:I don't think that's right. In the last issue Doom defended himself by stating that, while imperfect in its implementation, Battleworld saved "millions." So I assume that many of the folks on Battleworld are an original from some universe (whether it's 616 or otherwise). What I mean is that with the mind fuckery, the only characters we "know": are the ones we know are the ones I mentioned. Franklin could have been our Franklin but at the end of the day he didn't remember because Doom messed with his mind so he might as well have been a new character. Edit: Like Odinson and Ultimate Thor, they were obvious in their versions but they were essentially new characters because the result of their "salvation".
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Sue remembers the life raft breaking apart and being hit by the incursion, so I take it as this: We know that Doom knows that Reed would have been a better god -- when Doom created Battleworld, he very well could have brought back Sue and co. as they could have survived as Reed and co. did since they were in a piece of the life raft as well. He didn't bring back Sue complete because he was being cautious about what she would remember. When Reed reshapes the universe/universes, Sue is finally complete. If anything, it's Battleworld Sue with 616 Sue's soul. A difference made irrelevant.
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CharlestheHammer posted:That...looks awful. Holy poo poo You are wrong. Allow me to introduce just a special presentation I call The Many Faces of Ribic               QUARDUPLE COMBO QUARDUPLE COMBO    Special Bonus picture:  
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None of the faces really stand out, but one that I always hated and it kept appearing in every issue in the Cast of Character page is the one they use for Captain Marvel.
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Rirse posted:None of the faces really stand out, but one that I always hated and it kept appearing in every issue in the Cast of Character page is the one they use for Captain Marvel. 
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redbackground posted:Welp. To actually answer your question there is an issue in the second half(I think) of Secret Wars where Sue is thinking about old adventures as the F4 and it was with her and Johnny's dad in Reed's role. I believe those are the Sue, Johnny, and Ben that are in Secret Wars up until the end. The ones at the end are the actual 616 ones that Reed used his powers to go back and save during the final incursion. I think.
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