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Lurdiak posted:Even though it's tangentially a sequel to Secret Wars, this entire event is the kind of thing DC is reviled for constantly doing. The fact that they happen to be doing yet another one at the same time doesn't do much to discourage the comparisons. Yeah but Marvel tends to be way more competent than DC. I'm interested to see if they can do the continuity reset in a compelling way. The "constantly" is the key problem there.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 01:56 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The book beginning and ending with Doom is making me think Battleworld will be his thing and Reed/Maker/Survivors end up there. I don't think Ultimate Reed cares enough about other universes to try to save any of them. Dead Rocket was the worst for me Oh and also Marvel Universe 1961-2015
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 15:10 |
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Also really glad Ribic is doing art on this book, I love his stuff.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 15:42 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:Uh, so The Punisher logo is on the last page. I can't imagine it's not significant. Skulls also mean death. Senor Candle posted:Yeah, the knowledge that every issue is at least going to have art as good as this one is really comforting. Especially coming out of Avengers/New Avengers. Fuckin Deodato man...
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 15:47 |
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Senor Candle posted:Deodato wasn't even the worst imo. You don't like Lenlil Yu?
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 15:52 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:There is nothing that will ever make me care about this multiversal poo poo. I just hope that it doesn't gently caress over the books that I'm reading. If I wanted to read stories that would every so often be thrown away like so much garbage in order to repeat the same basic points over again, I'd read DC. You are aware that this is the first time Marvel has done this, if in fact it is even what they are doing. Codependent Poster posted:I wonder if Phoenix-Cyclops will be the new status quo after Secret Wars. Keep the young Scott around as Cyclops, and rename the old Scott as Phoenix. So like, they haven't talked about this Phoenix Egg in mainline X-books at all huh?
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 17:36 |
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It seems kind of odd to me that Scott Summers was on the lifeboat list, unless that was a last minute audible by Manifold.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 17:39 |
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Little Mac posted:Yeah I think Cyclops just teleports himself there. Also why did Manifold teleport Star-Lord onto the ship? Because Guardians made $800 million at the box office. Also, I thought that they had made a huge rear end list of people who were going on the lifeboat, based on the "Is Tony going or not" debate in the last Avengers book, and Manifold was supposed to complete that list if everything went to hell. Codependent Poster posted:Manifold didn't choose, his power is based on need. At that time, his powers were just picking up people who were "needed." Ah that's right.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 17:46 |
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gfanikf posted:Can someone explain when Scott got his PhD and also what the deal with the Phoenix Egg? Colossus laid it before he lost his powers.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 19:07 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:
Superheroes saving the world Probably a lot of what is driving the continuity clean up is that Marvel wants people who like the movies to be able to get into the comics as well, and see characters familiar to them.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 20:02 |
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Skwirl posted:Except there's no way in hell Captain America or Thor is going to look like their movie counterpart at the end of this. You don't think that this is going to end with a youngish Steve Rogers from somewhere being one of two Caps or man Thor being one of the Thors? You think MIles Morales is going to be the only Spiderman? Honestly I wouldn't be terribly surprised if in 20 years when we're reading a retrospective of SW some former editor didn't say "Our primary motivation for Secret Wars was to figure out a way to make Nick Fury black".
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 20:15 |
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Deadpool posted:We've already seen old Cap in a post Secret Wars story. So no it's not going to undo that. Was that in FCBD Avengers? I haven't read that one yet.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 20:38 |
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TNG posted:I think I'm interested in Secret Wars because it will allow a lot of different creators the chance to tell interesting stories with lots and lots of alternate versions of mostly static characters. It's like 4 months of What-Ifs? and Elseworlds. M.O.D.O.K. is going to be a fixture in like 4 books for God's sake! Yeah I'm really excited for The Agwengers.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 21:16 |
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io9 has a write up about the tie-ins that goes a bit more in depth than the solicits.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 22:00 |
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One thing I got from Cyclops in #1 was for all his posturing and ostensible regret over the death of Xavier, as well as his denial of causing it, he really loves having the Phoenix Force.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 22:53 |
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Senor Candle posted:The X-Men one sounds plausible in comparison but the F4 sounds completely insane. There is like a 0% chance Hickman does that. What's implausible? Johnny's dated Inhumans before and Ben has gone on roving solo space adventures before.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 16:47 |
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Senor Candle posted:There is a 0% chance Hickman actually kills Franklin and Valeria. How is that not the thing that stuck out to you? Yeah but Reed and Sue might think they are dead for a long time.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 17:14 |
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A Tin Of Beans posted:I'm genuinely surprised they didn't shove a recap page in there. I feel like one would not have been remiss. On my first read, I was hyped as hell, but on a reread I tried to see it as someone without context would and ... there's a loose framework of what's going on, but Maker Reed and all that is just like "yup, here's this stuff!" I was trying to explain where Namor is right now to a friend and it took like half an hour.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 20:42 |
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Doc Aquatic posted:I'm getting in on this, and I want to catch up on Avengers/New Avengers/Infinity, but the read order link isn't working. does anyone have a working version? There's one in the back of every Infinity issue.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 22:42 |
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Yeah has a major crossover ever had this much set up?
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 04:23 |
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All of Infinity and up to Avengers #37 and NA #25.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 05:31 |
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Auralsaurus Flex posted:What zoux said. The last eight issues of each series aren't included on the service yet, and as you might expect, neither is Secret Wars #1. Also, the annuals are separated into their own series for whatever reason. Last six. You'd have to buy 12 issues to catch up fully.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 05:41 |
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Auralsaurus Flex posted:
You're right.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 14:48 |
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Ultimates 3/Ultimatum are pretty consistently on everyone's "Worst Comic Runs of All Time" list. They are atrocious. I think the Evil Reed/City stuff is in Hickman's later Ultimates run.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 22:09 |
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Cannonball and Sunspot are great in the run up. Da Costa buying AIM is loving perfect. Though, how the gently caress did they end up on the Avengers Machine in the first place?
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 03:54 |
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How many times has Xavier been crippled into paraplegia? Even his son got it!
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 20:00 |
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Well I'm not caught all the way up on All-New X-men okay!
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 20:36 |
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So do we think that Doom created his denizens out of the aether or that he brought them from somewhere? Like what universe are those Braddocks from? Also this reveal: Oh hey is that Thor? Oh it's a bunch of Thors ok...who's making all those Thors? zoux fucked around with this message at 16:13 on May 13, 2015 |
# ¿ May 13, 2015 16:07 |
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Caidin posted:To be honest the first thing I wanna know right now is what happened to Miles. He jumped on the ultimate raft didn't he? The preview cover of the next issue is a pretty big clue to that, I think. OnimaruXLR posted:I think this would be better if we were just dropped into Battle World out of the blue without the... uh... six years? Of buildup. Better for who? What's up with all the concern for the hypothetical brand new reader. I mean, we all read the lead up right?
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 19:15 |
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Jiro posted:Or if he even could control creating Battleworld. Why the gently caress would you even have a zone specifically for Ultron AIs, Marvel Zombies, and the goddamn Annihilation Wave, when you're whole thing is to remake a world under your complete control. Unless he keeps those around in order to periodically invade and keep everyone else in line which means he keeps in contact with them. Anyone else notice that Susan was back in her Future Foundation uniform as was Doom being in white, when he was made stupid. Barbarians at the gates are a powerful tool for maintaining order.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 20:42 |
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Gatts posted:I highly recommend you start with Avengers Disassembled then to House of M then to Civil War then to World War Hulk then to the Illuminati Mini and Secret Invasion then through Dark Reign then to Siege and progress to Hickman's SHIELD, Ultimate Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four and Avengers/New Avengers/Infinity to Secret War. That should pretty much cover everything you need to understand why the Marvel universe is the way it is, relationships, etc. and will know what's going on and why and how. Careful...I did this and now I'm weird.
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 04:28 |
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Lurdiak posted:Skip War of Kings. That's just gonna make him wonder where the hell Havok is, better be safe and read everything.
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 04:38 |
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muscles like this? posted:The Magneto Last Days was kind of blah. How much are the Last Days books focusing on incursion stuff?
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 16:18 |
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While we're on the subject, what are the good Strange minis/runs? I looked in MU and I'm not sure he's had an ongoing in decades.
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# ¿ May 19, 2015 15:08 |
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muscles like this? posted:Is Wonderman even around right now? I skipped out on later Bendis Avengers so I didn't read those issues but I haven't seen him in anything in years. Last time I saw him he was wholly contained within Rogue.
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# ¿ May 19, 2015 16:31 |
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I got Planet Hulk, Battleworld and Ultimate End.
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 15:16 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Is Ultimate End poo poo? That's really the only one I think I care about. I'm not current on Ultimate universe so I dunno if the circumstances that led up to it are laid out in the leadup books or if it's in medias re as gently caress. But it's a lot of talking and set up. Of the three, Battleworld was the best. It's a two-story anthology comic ala A+X. zoux fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 20, 2015 |
# ¿ May 20, 2015 15:47 |
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Bagley's gonna give you strange faces. So, Ultimate End, is all that out of the blue or was it set up in other books?
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 16:41 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Not to mention, Scott and Peter should be on the Illuminati's life raft, while 616 Tony should be dead. Yeah this was what confused me as well. It's a drat good thing they are all speaking in a different font or I wouldn't know which universe half of them were from.
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 17:27 |
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I do love how Doom just straight slouches on his tree throne like he's loving Conan.
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 17:52 |