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Which card do you most want to see unbanned
Sword of the Meek
Dig Through Time
Bloodbraid Elf
Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer
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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Decklists are public and can be viewed here: 1:13 PM <BelZoness> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN0P0vAV3i7EmyeHLDxub-6Sob5-9CFiw6VbvZIM8Hc/edit?usp=sharing

DECKLIST SUBMISSION DEADLINE 12:00 AM CST May 24th



In memoriam :911:

Not affiliated with Thunderdome™, same format as those though, post your deck list so I can catalog it, rounds depend on number of players but I imagine it’ll be around 5 with a cut to top 8. We’ll play it out on xmage, with workarounds like Cockatrice available in-case xmage is xmage.

Format is Modern obv., thinking of starting it in a week but might bump that up to two because of:

THE UNBANS:

Yep, that’s right, for this tournament I’d like to unban the following three cards:





As a way of using the tournament as a kind of suspect testing. I’m completely open to discussion on leaving them banned, or if enough people want another card and can give some good justifications for why it should be unbanned I’m up for doing that too.

Why I’d like to unban these:

Sword of the Meek: On the banlist since the format was created due to its inclusion in the Thopter Depths deck in extended. With Thopter Foundry, creates a combo that turns every mana source you have into life gain and a 1/1. This is in comparison to Twin, the combo there killing outright. Thopter Foundry is a lot easier to pull off and allows you to easily hold up Remand, benefits from artifact support and search, but the combo is slow, both pieces are still at sorcery speed, and they don’t do much on their own. I’m interested in trying it out because it would allow for an artifact deck that isn’t Robots or R/G Tron. Sword of the Meek has never had a fair shake in the format so I’d like to test it out to see if it really would cause problems for aggressive decks like Burn or Infect, or if it would just be another deck in Modern.

Dig Through Time: Banned out with Treasure Cruise in January, Dig Through Time is the best filter effect in Modern since Ponder and Preordain. It was also overshadowed by its P9 brother, Treasure Cruise during the short time it was legal. Right now in Modern if you’re a non-combo deck with Blue in it you’re sitting in a pretty awful position, and even some of the blue combo decks in Modern are still pretty bad. There’s no doubt that DTT would get played in Twin, but Twin’s use of more permanents means they have less delve fuel and generally played it as around a 2 of back when it was legal. The decks that would benefit the most from it are UWR control, Scapeshift, and (probably) UR Storm, all of which are very much fringe decks right now. I would like to see what the addition of Dig does for those, and if it was a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater in banning it or, if like Treasure Cruise it really is just too good for Modern.

Bloodbraid Elf:
The once and future king of Jund in Standard, Modern, and Legacy, BBE was banned 2 years ago when Jund made up about 25% of the format. This did exactly nothing to stop Jund from tearing up the format at the time, the real culprit of Jund’s dominance turning out to be the one mana planeswalker that allowed Jund to play in the land of ultra-greed with gleeful abandon, grant them life on demand, and hate on any graveyard deck in the format to boot. Since both these were banned, Jund’s fallen heavily to become Junk’s boring brother that nobody talks about or hangs out with. Since DTT will make Twin stronger, I’d like to unban BBE to put some additional pressure on that deck.
Plus we can settle once and for all which is the better value creature in Modern: Siege Rhino or BBE. :v:

So, questions, comments, decklists, let’s have at it

TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 11, 2015

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
There are a couple of different decks I'd really like to play, but if nobody plays it I'll go Twin just so there's that deck running around to act as a comparison.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

always be closing posted:

I'm in. I want those cards to stay banned.

You're talking about Sword, Dig and BBE?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Backno posted:

I would be down for this as long as we do the 2 week set up.

Yeah at this point I think 2 weeks is most reasonable, it'll give people time to build and if they feel like it, to test

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

always be closing posted:

Correct, I would like to play a tournament under the current modern B/R

If enough people would like that I'm up for it, otherwise I'd just start a new non unban one up in two months after this one finishes

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Sigma-X posted:

Jace is still really good. He wasn't "kept in check" by BBE at all during Standard, BBE was merely his equal sometimes.

Jace has fallen pretty hard in Legacy, at least.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Right now I'm trying to fit Thopter Sword into Shouta Yasouka's 2014 Tezzeret list. I haven't been able to playtest it but I feel like Stony Silence absolutely murders it.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Zoness posted:

I'm in if you can get mcmagic and everblight to play.

How about you join anyway

Sigma-X posted:

It only hits his fast mana/citadels and you have 6 duress effects after board / 4 main plus negates. It seems like you have enough ways to keep it from resolving until you drop a planeswalker and stop caring.

I hope to live the dream of beating someone to death with a now inert Darksteel Citadel

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
How should we do decklists? Everyone want to do secret round 1 or post them here?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Right now it looks like we have 12 people in

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
That buttface ChewyLSB is in this, here is a placeholder to remind me to count him

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Got a challonge up, if you don't see your name let me know http://challonge.com/v5ne1q82

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

TheLawinator posted:

I am not on the list.

Fixed

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Looks like we'll be doing secret decklists.

Zoness will be handling decklists, please PM yours to him

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

wildfire1 posted:

Can I get in on this? I'll pm a deck list to zoness at some point.

Absolutely, hoping to get as many as possible

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Going to set a tentative deadline for 12:00 AM Sunday, May 24th for the deck submission deadline.

Make sure Zoness has your decklist before then!

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Bracket updated to include Aston and gangsines (black potus)


Please tell me if your name isn't on the bracket

Also, :siren:Less than 48 hours to the decklist submission deadline, please have your lists submitted to Zoness by then:siren:

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Aston posted:

I'm at a pppppptq, will try and pm deck list when I get back.

Win your pppppptq

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
I think we're getting close to having all the lists in, so I'm going to try to put up pairings in about an hour.

Looks like we have 23 people, if I forget to have your name on here please message me ASAP.

E: The participants, as it stands: http://challonge.com/v5ne1q82/standings

TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 05:23 on May 25, 2015

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Round 1 pairings:

Fiend Computer v. wildfire1

Lker v. Babylon Astronaut

Snacksmaniac v. Backno

Sigma-X v. gangsines

ChewyLSB v. kizudarake

SuicideSteve v. instantrunoffvote

TheKingofSprings v.TheLawinator

PhyrexianLibrarian v. Mfcrocker

Fingers McLongDong v. ShaneB

always be closing v. eSporks

Jonked v. Aston

and odiv gets the bye

For best results I recommend coordinating matches through #mtgoon on IRC (TheLawinator I'm pretty much always around on there)

:getin:

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Snacksmaniac posted:

I'm conceding and dropping as I am quickly reminded of the awful experience of playing this game online.

Just use Cockatrice dude

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
TheLawinator, what times work best for you

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

TheLawinator posted:

There are tons of times tomorrow and the rest of the weekend that work. I am open for the most part besides some stuff tomorrow that will probably be early afternoon.

Hi I'm on irc, lemme know when you're good

Dang, ggs, Lawinator wins, 1-2

TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 31, 2015

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Going to set a deadline for Tuesday at Midnight, please either have your matches in or report your status to me by then, if someone doesn't report I'll assume they forfeit

Waiting on:

Fiend Computer v. Wildfire

ChewyLSB v. Kizudarake

SuicideSteve v. instantrunoffvote

Gangsines v. Sigma-X

TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 22:42 on May 31, 2015

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Still waiting on wildfire v fiend computer, suicide Steve v suicide Steve's opponent, if I don't hear anything before gangsines finishes his match I'm giving draws

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Gonna off until Wednesday so irv and suicidesteve can play

If fiend computer doesn't reply before then the winner is wildfire1

From that point on there will be a strict 1 week deadline

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Fiend Computer is dead, press F to pay respects

Round 2 Pairings:

Jonked v. ShaneB

TheKingofSprings v. odiv

alwaysbeclosing v. Mfcrocker

Lker v. black potus

ChewyLSB v. instantrunoffvote

Aston v. Fiend Computer

PhyrexianLibrarian v. Backno

wildfire1 v. TheLawinator

Sigma-X v. eSporks

Suicidesteve v. Babylon Astronaut

Fingers McLongDong v. kizudarake

Deadline is Wednesday, June 10, at Midnight

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
2-1 against Odiv, Chord for Kataki absolutely tore me to shreds game 2 but a Tezz ult for 20 game 3 takes it

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Backno posted:

What is the IRC channel?

#goonsmash

nobody tell him it's #mtgoons

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Aston posted:

So fiend computer hasn't posted in the thread since may 25, didn't turn up for the last round and doesn't have plat so I can't pm them. Can they just be dropped?

I will kill the Fiend Computer at midnight

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
I need the results, if any from sigmax v. ESporks and suicidesteve v. Suicidesteves opponent

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
The Fiend Computer is dead. Aston absorbs his life energy to become more powerful.

After reviewing I'm awarding eSporks the win for their match.

Alwaysbeclosing v. backno

Lker v. shaneb

ChewyLSB v wildfire1


Rest of the pairings are here http://challonge.com/v5ne1q82 because I am lazy and in a tractor

End of round is :siren:NEXT THURSDAY, at Midnight:siren:

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

kizudarake posted:

King, sorry, I overslept. I'm getting on now.

where are you dude, I don't see you online

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
2-1 vs Kizudarake, man is playing against burn nerve wracking

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Oh poo poo the round ended last night didn't it

Uhh I'll try to have pairings up by noon

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Odiv wins, brackets here:

http://challonge.com/v5ne1q82

Finish your games before :siren:NEXT SATURDAY, at midnight:siren:

E: Sorry for the delay and the low effort next round announcement, im lakeposting

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Sigma-X posted:

King let me know when you're available. I'm available on weekends but work 10-7 cali time during the week.

Probably tonight if you're fine with lake internet and also it most likely being after 10:30cst because gently caress if my family gets dinner ready before 10:00 out here

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Backno posted:

You have me as losing Round 3, I won 2-1 not sure if it effects anything though

I fixed it but, uh

The brackets are the same and idk how to change it :/

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Backno posted:

NBD, I will probably lose horribly anyway so it doesn't matter.

Oh no your ranking moved up

Just that the pairings this round are the same

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Sigma-X posted:

Hey are you available to be King of Losing The Round?

No family's all around right now and they'll get pissy if I wander off to do it

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