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reminds me of all the failed attempts of flying. this is what i see when people try to do AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-ZktmjIfE
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i look at all these programmers involved in all these overly complicated projects, like getting a robot to half assly walk around and combine other collaborative AI tasks into one to make an "intelligent" robot, but it always results in suckage. and then you have those government funded programs reconstructing the human brain as if it's the ultimate foundation for AI even though humans are capable of the most terrible things and make bad/stupid choices. you really want that to be the future brains of independent robots? lol
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there will be a smart person one day that will figure out that you need an algorithm to learn by itself and include different senses to understand the world around it. but when someone invents this it will be like playing with fire, and because humans are stupid, we will all be destroyed by it
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# ? May 11, 2015 15:30 |
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there are ony two possible outcomes ether no true AI ever, or it will be made and it will destroy us
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# ? May 11, 2015 15:33 |
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Everything you need to know about AI you can learn from the ancient board game Go
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# ? May 11, 2015 15:34 |
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so when does artificial intelligence become just 'intelligence'
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Hen posted:Everything you need to know about AI you can learn from the ancient board game Go it's a great example of a board game that a really good AI hasn't been make for it, unlike chess. too bad it's very boring at least to me haha
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also yeah until we can even define what 'intelligence' is how the hell are we going to build one capable of more than playing a board game or finding relationships in numbers
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Necc0 posted:so when does artificial intelligence become just 'intelligence' hmm well it's still made by humans or AI making the intelligence
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i took a fuzzy logic class once and the guy teaching it spent the entire time talking about some medical expert system project he'd been involved with in the 80s, and i still dodn't really know what fuzzy logic is beyond "sometimes the answer is in the middle"
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I spent most of my AI class learning about how to solve board games and poo poo I don't feel like I learnt a whole lot about AI but there isn't a sliding tile puzzle left in the world I can't optimally solve now gently caress you, professor layton
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actual conversation I had with an AI researcher: - some of my coworkers came up with a turing test for video games. they made an AI that sometimes attacked irrationally in a fit of rage if it got attacked. most people couldn't tell it from a human player - well, that's a fun toy, but it doesn't have any practical application - no it's amazing, i mean this could be a stepping stone to computers that act just like people - you want your AI to have fits of rage? - no, but the... uh... principle - ?????
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Sweevo posted:i took a fuzzy logic class once and the guy teaching it spent the entire time talking about some medical expert system project he'd been involved with in the 80s, and i still dodn't really know what fuzzy logic is beyond "sometimes the answer is in the middle" yeah i don't really get it. fuzzy logic always seems to break down to something that's not fuzzy Wikipedia posted:Hard science with IF-THEN rules[edit] "it might be 'cold and normal' at the same time to different degrees" okay so figure out what degree it is then evaluate?
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Nagato posted:actual conversation I had with an AI researcher: pretty sure this happened in the 70's on terminals before it became Eliza, and the people on the other end would actually get pissed at the bot trolling them
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Hen posted:Everything you need to know about AI you can learn from the ancient board game Go the only thing to know is that game is for nerd faggots btw i play Go
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gargle chome posted:the only thing to know is that game is for nerd faggots do you play mj? because i know some people that are crazy about that game. kinda interested
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gargle chome posted:btw i play Go
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# ? May 11, 2015 16:31 |
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this thread is now machine learning chat pyf machine learning toolkit, library, or environment
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# ? May 11, 2015 16:37 |
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jony ive aces posted:how about you "go" out of this thread!!! omg owned
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# ? May 11, 2015 16:42 |
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all we have to do is code a program that will engineer an artificial intelligence to write some AI scripts or whatever
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Bloody posted:this thread is now machine learning chat
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all we need to do is write a program that evaluates every possible action. if there are lots of actions then just use a faster computer
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:do you play mj? because i know some people that are crazy about that game. kinda interested i dont acdtually play go i'm normal
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GoldenTeeth posted:I spent most of my AI class learning about how to solve board games and poo poo but thats what ai is though? what did you think you were going to learn about?
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how to build my own Cherry 2000 of course!
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COME BUILD THE VENGEFUL GOD THIS EARTH DESPERATELY NEEDS
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gargle chome posted:i dont acdtually play go i'm normal i was asking if you play mahjong (not the tile matching game)
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:it's a great example of a board game that a really good AI hasn't been make for it, unlike chess. too bad it's very boring at least to me haha this is not really true, I mean if you were talking about it 10 years ago it'd be true, every go playing AI was bad BAAAAAD and anyone who played the game often for like 3 years idk could easily beat it. but now processors and gpus are much faster than it used to be so a monte carlo brute-force approach is super effective and can beat strong amateur players and some professional players. I guess in like 5 years it'll be able to beat the best human player
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and yes and I'm a failnerd who plays go sometimes
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hmm ok. still pretty complex weird to think that checkers was solved like 8 years ago
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Symbolic Butt posted:and yes and I'm a failnerd who plays go sometimes
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Bloody posted:this thread is now machine learning chat scikit-learn, because im a bitchmade python babby also my lab recently did a badly designed matrix game experiment where the algorithm is a better player than quite a few humans since it actually understands the game and doesn't make dumb moves
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salisbury shake posted:COME BUILD THE VENGEFUL GOD THIS EARTH DESPERATELY NEEDS settle down there Roko
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artifical inteligence will desotry japan first
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# ? May 11, 2015 20:37 |
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then china's AI will start poisoning the earth without any consequence to itself
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Nobody knows what intelligence is in the first place so no duh we can't build it.
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'AI' carries a lot of baggage; researchers who entered the field after about 1990 prefer to call it machine learning or computer vision or anything but AI. it's also taboo to make any sort of claim about human brains - that kind of thing caused the winters and the older guys react v badly to anyone that seems to be hyping poo poo on a philosophical level, the community's also pretty cleanly split between true believers who think 'strong AI' (whatever the gently caress that is) is right around the corner, and the rest who think that our state-of-the-art is laughably primitive coffeetable fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 11, 2015 |
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anyway if this is ML-chat: i build ML and CV systems for medical problems. at work i am currently prototyping a structure-from-motion system for [censored], and at home im doing about twenty things which ill post about when any of them go anywhere. if you are interested in getting into ML, there are two options
coffeetable fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 11, 2015 |
# ? May 11, 2015 22:46 |
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easy part of ML: the algorithms hard part of ML: giving the algorithms data they can handle well
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feature extraction is in my experience like 80% of the problem
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