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Deadpool posted:It proved that it was a great show that had one of the least effective and most confusing marketing pushes I've ever seen for a TV show. That's pretty much it. It's been seven years and I'm still a little salty about Kings. The second season could have paid off big time.
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JohnSherman posted:I too am offended that a slur that hasn't been used in a century is part of the title of the 1989 film on which this show is based. That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way). It's unfortunate and won't be changed but it's unintentionally odious.
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May 17, 2015 11:49
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tsob posted:Not something I'm exactly proud of, but I watch a good bit of porn and have never heard the term "black buck" used in any context. Personally I'm just saddened that the guy playing Buck looks quite skinny. It's John Candy's legacy I suppose, but I just expect if they're redoing it they'd at least get someone overweight and chunky to play the guy. It's more conflated with the term "bull" now but they have the same origin. Porn's one of the last dehumanizing entertainment industry that isn't related to the service industry but that's another topic altogether.
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May 17, 2015 12:49
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Toxxupation posted:are you seriously pretending that an industry that explicitly trades in fetishization and fantasy is at all indicative of cultural trends? If you don't think one of the most consumed forms of media has an effect on the perceptions of people then I'm just gonna assume you're going full Irish Joe. Astroman posted:The larger question in my opinion, is who was really clamoring for a tv remake of a 25 year old movie? Must be the same people who really want to see Coach back on the air. Old TV shows coming back and now movies being made into TV shows is a trend I don't understand, mostly because the shows they're making aren't based off of huge hits, with the exception of Minority Report.
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May 18, 2015 00:06
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Toxxupation posted:oh poo poo 30% of women have rape fantasies/consume rape porn! that must mean that 30% of women want to be raped! Jesus Christ, man. tsob posted:Do you believe GTA trains people to be murder bots? Because that's essentially the same argument. People can differentiate real life from a simulation and that's all porn is: a and distorted simulation of reality meant to highlight certain aspects but including lots of fantasy and fetishization of real stuff to titillate. No, I don't, but there's been plenty of studies about how media and perceptive biases affect the public subconscious. I don't have access to Sage anymore but there was a recent study and article done that coincided with the Michael Brown shooting that goes into detail about the phenomenon. I'm not saying "all poo poo is bad therefore don't consume [x]" like a Concerned Mom, I'm just saying that some prejudices, biases and misconceptions are propagated by differing forms of media and spread throughout the cultural milieu that way.
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May 18, 2015 00:26
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Toxxupation posted:the problem is you're pretending porn is a medium when it's a glorified outlet of sexual gratification At this point you're just talking past me, man. I just said that biases and stuff can be reinforced and replicated in various media (of which porn is) and that some of that ranges from pernicious to actually harmful. This is a silly derail and if y'all want to continue it in PMs, I'll be glad to.
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May 18, 2015 00:54
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raditts posted:Look man, I'm as angry black man as it gets and even I think this conversation is loving ridiculous. It totally was and I got my angry black guy hackles up for no drat reason.
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May 19, 2015 01:55
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