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Hello and Welcome to our all new thread about Chan boards and the culture surrounding them. To start off I don’t want this to be just a mock thread like the Freep thread or TV tropes if you go into PYF. I want to really discuss how 4chan came to be and why it is what it is today, plus any other topics that stem off that. Lets also try to keep Gamergate discussions to a minimum and be civil to one another. For those who don't know what 4chan is, To start I wanna talk about my own history with chan boards in. I tried a few times when I was in high school and my first few years of college to become a part of that culture. Mainly because I always heard about the raids and the pranks they pulled on people and thought that was awesome. I remember spending hours reading about stuff like the Habbo Hotel raid, or listening to some weird Texan talk about the stock market and keep getting prank calls from channers. There was also the year that a bunch of 4channers attended Connecticon and caused trouble and I was kind of in awe of them as that lone weirdo that attends anime cons by himself. I even delved into other chan boards like 420chan in hopes of joining what would eventually become Anonymous. I was always fascinated by Anon and what they accomplished with Project Chanology and the other raids they performed. I think I eventually figured out what 4chan was really doing was childish and downright mean. Chris Chan for example. Who the is some autistic guy in the south hand drawing some comic hurting? What was the point? Just to make his life, and others like him, hell? Fast forward to the past year or so and, from an outsider’s perspective it looks like 4chan and other chan boards have become truly vile places. Or maybe they always have been vile and I just figured it out. I think this does deserve a thread because say what you will about Freep, most of the users there will not dead or not relevant in about 10 years. Guys that post on 4chan or 8chan seem to do some real damage and do have a real affect on our culture from all the bullshit that surrounded Gamergate to people in the Marriage Equality thread talking about how channers are celebrating the death of trans game developers and programmers to trying to justify kiddie porn is protected under the first amendment. Some topics I think that might be worth discussing: -How do chan boards go from posting anime pictures to Stormfront -Why women on the internet freak channers out? -When does ironic racism become racism -Nerd persecution complex -The limits of free speech -When the first amendment becomes a shield to justify bullshit. -Being anonymous on the internet. And if anyone wants me to add anything to the OP let me know. Anyone who use to be DEEP into chan boards please apply and share your experiences. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 01:46 on May 14, 2015 |
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May 14, 2015 01:38
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icantfindaname posted:I think this would be a good thread to talk about nerd culture in general, because most/all of the issues with 4chan are shared with the wider nerd "community" as a whole True. One good thing GamerGate did for me was show just how screwed up Nerd culture is. I guess I was really naive when i saw someone post something lovely on say Gamespot and think that was a rare sight. But the past year or two has shown me that lovely behavior is more of a norm for nerds. Hell the internet in general has allowed people to get off their chest the most vile poo poo they think. Facebook now also puts a face to those comments as well.
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May 14, 2015 02:05
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Confounding Factor posted:You should include Reddit's Red Pill, PUA sites and other misogynistic stuff as part of nerd culture. This was kind of one of the things I was thinking about when I made this. Do we focus just on Chan boards or do we also talk about Reddit and other sites since they seem to either stem from that or just do the same things as 4chan. Woolie Wool posted:I feel like the problems with nerd culture have not at all gotten worse, but have rather become more visible. People weren't paying attention, now they are. The nerds now realize society is watching and judging them (and their behavior is less acceptable among the mainstream), they feel threatened and lash out. I remember when homophobia on most boards was much, much more pervasive than it is now, it was encouraged in seemingly every internet community from the administrators on down. The fury of nerds lashing out against the "SJWs" is a sign of weakness, not of strength. The whole Gamergate thing is also just a part of society at large having a real discussion about racism and sexism in general. And you brought up another topic worth talking about here. "The SJW Boogyman.(Boogiewoman?)"
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May 14, 2015 02:25
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Morroque posted:This basically equals my impressions of the Chans as well. It was only a few years ago that I sort of admired 4chan, especially Anonymous and the escapades they went on about. I used to think one's opinion on Anonymous roughly equalled one's own hope for humanity; for every unambiguously bad or childishly mean thing Anon did, they also usually had one unambiguously good thing as well. Ergo, if you liked them or not largely depended on your own personal convictions as opposed to anything Anon itself specifically did. Last time I kept up with Anon was during the Michale Brown riots. Someone's Anon twitter threatened to unleash a mess of E-mails from the Ferguson PD. But I don't think they ever were released.
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May 14, 2015 02:27
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Planarch posted:I think on /b/ there's probably high turnover because it's generally the first subforum you hear about or find, and it's still what a lot of people think of when they think of 4chan. Not sure about the other boards, but I'd imagine /v/ is probably closer to /b/ than it is to SA in terms of turnover. On that note, do you think the people that eventually left chan boards just moved on to Reddit?
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May 14, 2015 03:28
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Gantolandon posted:People who spend most of their time on forums try to analyze why some other people spend all of their time on other forums and call them shut-ins. I will totally admit that I am a nerdy shut in and suck at having a social life. But I totally understand it's my problem, not the fault of some outside group that rejected me. That's why I wanted to make this thread. The idea that the people who rejected me before now want to enter "my world" is a bad thing or suggesting that there is something wrong means that my toys are going to be taken away is so alien to me and I want to try and understand it better. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 00:25
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Nintendo Kid posted:It'd be funny as poo poo if for like 36 hours, with no warning, 4chan activated a filter that banned anyone who typed a common racial slur for like a month. I would laugh.
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May 15, 2015 03:21
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Cliff Racer posted:But if you want to talk about ruining lives... Do you think its OK to ruin people's lives with stuff like this or the lady who lost her job because she made that AIDS joke a few years ago? I did want to talk about this. I do agree this isn't right. Like the woman who made that AIDS joke, she's an idiot, she deserves to be called out on it, but looking back on that whole thing it felt like people were masturbating to the fact that this woman's life was gonna be ruined and it's creepy.
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May 15, 2015 03:34
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Hungry posted:
Yeah, it was this I wanted to talk about really. I started off talking about 4chan because I always thought poo poo like GG is where it started and just bloomed from there. I definitely took the wrong approach when I made this thread.
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May 15, 2015 17:05
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