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What I reckon would be interesting is knowing sort of what the turnover is within these cultures. At a place like SA there are obviously a lot of long timers and it very much shows that the climate and culture of the site has grown with its members, especially somewhere like D&D. More adult and less nerdy, some parts excluded obviously. Chan culture appears to be more stagnant if not devolving. Is that because their prolific users are ever fresh batches of 15yolds, or is turnover in fact not as high as you'd think and the users just stay that age mentally? Overall among my acquaintances nerdiness was something grown out of the general boredom of being a suburban kid and having too much time on your hands, it was was definitely nothing to celebrate or try to start a culture around - as everyone grew up (admittedly at different paces) they moved on and well, stopped being stupid nerds because what adult can be bothered with the inanity. There appears to be sections of the population that went the opposite route, for whom nerd stuff wasn't just a lack of something more interesting but actively interesting in itself. Basically - what is up with those people and why didn't they become massive hipsters like the rest of us? The reactionary angle probably explains it quite well I guess but there has to be more to it...
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Fried Chicken posted:Let's stop calling it "nerd culture"; defining your identity by what you consume is not culture. Everything they adhere was cooked up to fall within defined age/sex/disposable income/distribution region parameters assembled with ISO9000 compliance to Six Sigma standards 25 years ago by some snake in a suit so he could hit his quarterly bonus metrics. Any shared "language" is them referencing a consumed product because they have been marketed that referencing the familiar with a twist is the same as humor. Their "shared priorities" are consuming the products set to be rolled out next quarter. Their "common knowledge" is a series of iterative trivia about products they have consumed. This is not a culture, this is a market segment. This kinda amounts to saying there is no such thing as sports culture in the modern day, which is massively absurd. Of course any intimate enough connection between large groups of people and their shared interests turns into a culture, no matter whether someone calculatedly makes bank on them or not. Woolie Wool posted:Hipsters and nerds are two sides of the same coin. They're both driven by a peculiar mix of consumerism and insecurity.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I think a lot of the growth of weird right wing insaneness among internet nerds has been a reaction to the growing inclusiveness of the internet, that it's no longer a club exclusively white male 15-25 year olds and they're lashing out. Being an adult and wanting to avoid the other sex has to be the ultimate in reactionaryness. Ah yes, aristocratic gentlemen's clubs and fundamentalist Islam... but with Bitcoin!
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