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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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Free speech arguments are 90% of the time a matter of whether you'd like your opinions suppressed by officialdom or by the weight of public opinion. Libertarian types tend to gravitate toward the latter. But genuine efforts at free speech (even leaving out outliers) are pretty rare. It's arguable how much you really want it in any case.

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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Cliff Racer posted:

I dunno, why are you here fishmech? The whole loving place hates you.

Seriously, you literally made the list not once but twice. Your name is a verb used to describe the negative practice of actually responding to the poo poo that comes out of your keyboard.

You seem, er, normal.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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People who say "nerds are" almost always have a political position they're making. "Nerds are terrible" is generally the statement of a self-denying nerd, or a minority who feels nerd status is a product of the majority. "Nerds are great" from a self-aggrandizing nerd, etc.

In reality, a good survey would probably show nerds as roughly representative of society, with variations depending on the particulars.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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computer parts posted:

I think everyone agrees that nerds would be roughly representative of the social groups they come from. I think people would disagree that nerds are representative of society since (at least historically) they are predominantly white men.

Nerdy cultural products were and are generally cheap and widely available- the pulps, B movies, paperbacks, comics- so I doubt that even in the 1930s that nerds were so predominantly white men as people assume. Organized nerddom, yes until recently, but even still, less than people assume.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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computer parts posted:

The 1920s United States was extremely white and most of those attracted extremely male audiences, so I'd say that's a fair assumption.

You got any statistical data? Because anecdotal evidence from reminisces of pulp authors and the letters pages of old comics suggest substantial numbers of women read them, and other anecdotes suggest racial diversity as well

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