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reignonyourparade posted:Every I see an attempted survey/tracking of 4chan's demographics the userbase is always reported as surprisingly female as compared to the internet at large. LeftistMuslimObama posted:I think a lot of the misogyny and hypermachismo you see in gamer/nerd culture is a desire not to be seen as feminine. In real life, a lot of people who get categorized as nerds are often ridiculed for being unathletic, for being uninterested in sports, for being weak or small, or any number of other traits that are often identified as "feminine". In their desire to assert themselves as "not a girl", and aided by the anonymity of places like 4chan, they go way too far in the other direction. People who argue with their bombastic, MRA-style rhetoric only cause them to dig in more because they perceive criticism as an attack on their manhood rather than as constructive feedback. It's a perfect storm of human beings with a completely diminished ego and a powerful drive to go defensive immediately when criticized. I think we're on to something here. Could it be that, in their attempt to seem more masculine, they actually got some women's attention?
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I hate that we're using old usenet discussions to paint a history of nerds being bad, because internet use wasn't even a common thing among nerds until the turn of the century. We're leaving out the nerds who didn't or couldn't have a voice on the internet somewhere and I'd like to think they were much better adjusted, especially since I hung out with a lot of them and I never once picked up on any racism, homophobia or any other bad social behavior. Maybe a bit of sexism, which got corrected. Why can't we just accept that this is maybe a new problem that's a little harder to figure out than just repainting the past?
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Motto posted:I don't see what there's to discuss about "chan culture". It's just thinking you're above everybody else while posting memes and whining about everything. It's very important to establish that, in fact, we are the ones above them.
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May 15, 2015 09:19
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Motto posted:Yeah. Pretty much every online community is a circlejerk to some extent, and it gets even worse when discussion goes meta, or worse yet talks about other sites. Especially once you get to the point where people are spending copious amounts of time on sites they hate for the sole purpose of getting mad about them. If we've learned anything about humanity and the internet, it's never enough to tell people your opinion. You absolutely need to tell your opinion on a site that doesn't like those opinions. Something about using sites with like-minded people just doesn't really feel satisfying enough.
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May 15, 2015 09:35
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Woolie Wool posted:This is fetishism, not inclusion. Or perhaps it is inclusion that is fetishized?
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