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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

I have reported these simplistic interpretations to the Time Council High Minister, who is currently seeding speculative fiction throughout your era to allow for this thread to better understand the subtleties of time travel. We've given the creators ridiculous names like Audrey Niffinegger, Hiroshimi Tanaka, and Connie Willis, but I trust that their work will be consumed, understood, and enhance these simplistic "Replaced by another Hitler" or "We would already know because the timeline would have changed" responses.

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Who What Now posted:

If you had a time machine and killed Hitler instead of Ronald Reagan then you are a bigger monster than Hitler.

Won't the republicans just hire some other folksy idiot puppet to make people feel good about Jim Crow again?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

VitalSigns posted:

Won't the republicans just hire some other folksy idiot puppet to make people feel good about Jim Crow again?

Yeah, but they probably wouldn't have been as effective. Even back then Republicans were not known for their charm.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





tbh I would go back and rig 1976 in favour of Ford, or if I couldn't do that I'd let him know not to do the Eastern Europe poo poo

bij
Feb 24, 2007

I'd leave Jerry Falwell marooned in a temporal vortex or hellish pocket dimension.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
I'm just going to leave this SMBC comic here:

feller
Jul 5, 2006


CoolCab posted:

what if you kill Hitler and then perfectly impersonate Hitler for the remainder of his timeline to the point no one of the period can tell. you'd show Hitler, that's for sure.

hey yeah then you could just subtly sabotage everything by doing things like i don't know invading russia

wheez the roux
Aug 2, 2004
THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO LYNCH

Death to the Seahawks. Death to Seahawks posters.
Our timeline's hitler is actually a time traveler from neo-fascist 2050 europe

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

vs


FIGHT

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
Go back in time, kill Hitler, take his place, then fund a bunch of expeditions to look for lost artifacts. If you don't find any, then you will lose the war. If you do find some, then you can recreate Wolfenstein.

wheez the roux
Aug 2, 2004
THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO LYNCH

Death to the Seahawks. Death to Seahawks posters.

blackguy32 posted:

Go back in time, kill Hitler, take his place, then fund a bunch of expeditions to look for lost artifacts. If you don't find any, then you will lose the war. If you do find some, then you can recreate Wolfenstein.

go back in time and give the ussr every scrap of information on nuclear and particle physics and weapon design and uranium deposits available to us now

or troll the planet by giving it to everyone and watching how the dice roll out

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Kill Emperor Wilhelm I in 1871, then give Frederick III a smoking cessation class.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Go back in time, take hitlers place, then invent internet so the nazis can invade europe with cat videos instead of killing people.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

blackguy32 posted:

Go back in time, kill Hitler, take his place, then fund a bunch of expeditions to look for lost artifacts. If you don't find any, then you will lose the war. If you do find some, then you can recreate Wolfenstein.

Go back in time, kill Hitler, take his place, then proceed to engage in a number of military and strategic blunders than the real history where Hitler conquered the world never takes place and replace it with one where he never invades England and Moscow never falls. But you have to disguise it as just being a crazy loon otherwise people will get suspicious.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

zVxTeflon posted:

Even if it ends up destroying us and our timeline in the process?

What about stopping slavery or MLK/Kennedy from being shot?

To be sure to fix the problem, you need to also execute a whole bunch of other nazis, and all the people who agreed to putting Hitler in as Chancellor int he first place in the crooked dealings of the anti-democratic conservative clique at the end of Weimar Germany. And to be honest, with them gone, Actual Hitler has a lot harder time getting into power at all. He ends being some whiny minor party leader forever.

That's one fascist 20th century country fixed, but you still need to fix Austria, and Spain, and Italy, and Hungary, and Greece, and well there's a lotta dudes you need to kill.

Rodatose
Jul 8, 2008

corn, corn, corn
In killing all of those people, though, you end up becoming known as The New Hitler. heavy is the burden

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


gently caress killing Hitler, kill Sargon of Akkad and nip this whole "empire" thing in the bud.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
Go back and kill Stalin, Kamenev, Zinoviev and Trotsky after the October Revolution. Give Lenin some blood thinners before the second stroke.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
http://www.tor.com/2011/08/31/wikihistory/

quote:

Wikihistory

Desmond Warzel

International Association of Time Travelers: Members’ Forum
Subforum: Europe – Twentieth Century – Second World War
Page 263

11/15/2104
At 14:52:28, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Reporting my first temporal excursion since joining IATT: have just returned from 1936 Berlin, having taken the place of one of Leni Riefenstahl’s cameramen and assassinated Adolf Hitler during the opening of the Olympic Games. Let a free world rejoice!


At 14:57:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1936 Berlin; incapacitated FreedomFighter69 before he could pull his little stunt. Freedomfighter69, as you are a new member, please read IATT Bulletin 1147 regarding the killing of Hitler before your next excursion. Failure to do so may result in your expulsion per Bylaw 223.

At 18:06:59, BigChill wrote:
Take it easy on the kid, SilverFox316; everybody kills Hitler on their first trip. I did. It always gets fixed within a few minutes, what’s the harm?

At 18:33:10, SilverFox316 wrote:
Easy for you to say, BigChill, since to my recollection you’ve never volunteered to go back and fix it. You think I’ve got nothing better to do?

11/16/2104
At 10:15:44, JudgeDoom wrote:
Good news! I just left a French battlefield in October 1916, where I shot dead a young Bavarian Army messenger named Adolf Hitler! Not bad for my first time, no? Sic semper tyrannis!

At 10:22:53, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1916 France I come, having at the last possible second prevented Hitler’s early demise at the hands of JudgeDoom and, incredibly, restrained myself from shooting JudgeDoom and sparing us all years of correcting his misguided antics. READ BULLETIN 1147, PEOPLE!

At 15:41:18, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: issues related to Hitler’s service in the Bavarian Army ought to go in the World War I forum.

11/21/2104
At 02:21:30, SneakyPete wrote:
Vienna, 1907: after numerous attempts, have infiltrated the Academy of Fine Arts and facilitated Adolf Hitler’s admission to that institution. Goodbye, Hitler the dictator; hello, Hitler the modestly successful landscape artist! Brought back a few of his paintings as well, any buyers?

At 02:29:17, SilverFox316 wrote:
All right; that’s it. Having just returned from 1907 Vienna where I secured the expulsion of Hitler from the Academy by means of an elaborate prank involving the Prefect, a goat, and a substantial quantity of olive oil, I now turn my attention to our newer brethren, who, despite rules to the contrary, seem to have no intention of reading Bulletin 1147 (nor its Addendum, Alternate Means of Subverting the Hitlerian Destiny, and here I’m looking at you, SneakyPete). Permit me to sum it up and save you the trouble: no Hitler means no Third Reich, no World War II, no rocketry programs, no electronics, no computers, no time travel. Get the picture?

At 02:29:49, SilverFox316 wrote:
PS to SneakyPete: your Hitler paintings aren’t worth anything, schmuck, since you probably brought them directly here from 1907, which means the paint’s still fresh. Freaking n00b.

At 07:55:03, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Amen, SilverFox316. Although, point of order, issues relating to early 1900s Vienna should really go in that forum, not here. This has been a recurring problem on this forum.

11/26/2104
At 18:26:18, Jason440953 wrote:
SilverFox316, you seem to know a lot about the rules; what are your thoughts on traveling to, say, Braunau, Austria, in 1875 and killing Alois Hitler before he has a chance to father Adolf? Mind you, I’m asking out of curiosity alone, since I already went and did it.

At 18:42:55, SilverFox316 wrote:
Jason440953, see Bylaw 7, which states that all IATT rulings regarding historical persons apply to ancestors as well. I post this for the benefit of others, as I already made this clear to young Jason in person as I was dragging him back from 1875 by his hair. Got that? No ancestors. (Though if anyone were to go back to, say, Moline, Illinois, in, say, 2080 or so, and intercede to prevent Jason440953’s conception, I could be persuaded to look the other way.)

At 21:19:17, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: discussions of nineteenth–century Austria and twenty–first–century Illinois should be confined to their respective forums.

12/01/2104
At 15:56:41, AsianAvenger wrote:
FreedomFighter69, JudgeDoom, SneakyPete, Jason440953, you’re nothing but a pack of racists. Let the light of righteousness shine upon your squalid little viper’s nest!

At 16:40:17, BigTom44 wrote:
Well, here we frickin’ go.

At 16:58:42, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Racist? For killing Hitler? WTF?

At 17:12:52, SaucyAussie wrote:
AsianAvenger, you’re not rehashing that whole Nagasaki issue again, are you? We just got everyone calmed down from last time.

At 17:22:37, LadyJustice wrote:
I’m with SaucyAussie. AsianAvenger, you’re making even less sense than usual. What gives?

At 18:56:09, AsianAvenger wrote:
What gives is everyone’s repeated insistence on a course of action which, even if successful, would only save a few million Europeans. It would be no more trouble to travel to Fuyuanshui, China, in 1814 and kill Hong Xiuquan, thus preventing the Taiping Rebellion of the mid–nineteenth century and saving fifty million lives in the process. But, hey, what are fifty million yellow devils more or less, right, guys? We’ve got Poles and Frenchmen to worry about.

At 19:01:38, LadyJustice wrote:
Well, what’s stopping you from killing him, AsianAvenger?

At 19:11:43, AsianAvenger wrote:
Only to have SilverFox316 undo my work? What’s the point?

At 19:59:23, SilverFox316 wrote:
Actually, it seems like a pretty good idea to me, AsianAvenger. No complications that I can see.

At 20:07:25, Big Chill wrote:
Go for it, man.

At 20:11:31, AsianAvenger wrote:
Very well. I shall return in mere moments, the savior of millions!

At 20:14:17, LadyJustice wrote:
Just checked the timeline; congrats on your success, AsianAvenger!

12/02/2104
At 10:52:53, LadyJustice wrote:
AsianAvenger?

At 11:41:40, SilverFox316 wrote:
AsianAvenger, we need your report, buddy.

At 17:15:32, SilverFox316 wrote:
Okay, apparently AsianAvenger was descended from Hong Xiuquan. Any volunteers to go back and stop him from negating his own existence?

12/10/2104
At 09:14:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Anyone?

At 09:47:13, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: this discussion belongs in the Qing Dynasty forum. We’re adults; can we keep sight of what’s important around here?

SlipUp
Sep 30, 2006


stayin c o o l

Gorson posted:

The 80's movie "The Final Countdown" sort of asked this question. A U.S. aircraft carrier wanders into a Pink Floyd concert storm and time-warps to a few hours before the Pearl Harbor attack. I remember there being some discussion about the morality and implications of stopping the attack. Not a great movie, but not a bad one.

I'm a bigger fan of "Time Cop", a movie where nerds gets super cute with time travel and Van Damme punches all of them in the balls.

PerpetualSelf
Apr 6, 2015

by Ralp
70 million people died. How far did that set back global warming?

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
It required a monster such as Hitler to break the liberal democracies from their implicit alliance with European fascism. A titanic war was required to solidify it's defeat before the invention of nuclear weapons. This is all thanks to the heroics of the Time Chekists of the World Socialist Order 2099.

President Kucinich
Feb 21, 2003

Bitterly Clinging to my AK47 and Das Kapital

What if I just want to travel back in time to eat Hitler's placenta?

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
I'd take my time traveling phone booth back to pick up Carl Sagan circa the early 80's then we'd smoke a joint and go crash Steven Hawking's party. And then when we're drunk enough we'd probably go back and take a swing at killing Hitler.

Snow Halation
Dec 29, 2008

Save Alexander II, institute constitutional monarchy in Russia.

asdf32
May 15, 2010

I lust for childrens' deaths. Ask me about how I don't care if my kids die.
If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

I wanna go back in time and kill the guy who rejected Hitler from art school.

I don't wanna kill Hitler. I want Hitler to paint pretty pictures.

I wanna go back in time and paint pictures with Hitler.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



asdf32 posted:

If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?

I'd stop the assassination of Julius Caesar.

Pax Romana bitches.

prussian advisor
Jan 15, 2007

The day you see a camera come into our courtroom, its going to roll over my dead body.
What if the only way to kill Hitler was via draining the Mediterranean? What then?

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

Kenzie posted:

I wanna go back in time and kill the guy who rejected Hitler from art school.

I don't wanna kill Hitler. I want Hitler to paint pretty pictures.

I wanna go back in time and paint pictures with Hitler.
I think this may have been the plot of an 80s movie starring Robin Williams

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

asdf32 posted:

If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?

You should fix 80s/90s fashion, boost beta max over vhs, slip Betsy Ross some way sweeter flag designs, and steal the jelly beans out of Reagan's hand every time he tries to eat some from January 3rd 1979 - December 26th 1990.

Also prepare a "Blow your mind" video for every world/revolutionary leader who was in power from 1500 - 1980 and show it to them just before they died. On topic, it's rather tricky to show it to Hitler as you have to yank him out of the timeline milliseconds after he pulls the trigger and shove him back into the timeline within a few millisecond window.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

asdf32 posted:

If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?
Find the original thing that crawled out of the oceans onto land and tread on it. It's the only way to be sure that even worse humans won't appear in his place.

The Larch
Jan 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

asdf32 posted:

If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?

I think we can all agree that the world would be a better place if the K-Pg impact never happened.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
I wish to travel in time to give Hitler a kiss is that so bad?

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Darkman Fanpage posted:

I wish to travel in time to give Hitler a kiss is that so bad?
That's how he got syphilis.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
If you could go back in time but for reasons the only thing you could do was meet Hitler, shake his hand and get an autograph, would you bother going?

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Darkman Fanpage posted:

I wish to travel in time to give Hitler a kiss is that so bad?

Depends where you kiss him. Maybe if he had a bj every once in a while he wouldn't have been such a wet blanket all the time.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

asdf32 posted:

If you wouldn't kill Hitler, arguably one of the worst humans to have existed, what would you change about history given the choice?

Oh, did someone already go back in time and kill Ronnie Reagan? 'Cause if not I'm going to kill the man that's more evil than Hitler.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Gyges posted:

You should fix 80s/90s fashion, boost beta max over vhs, slip Betsy Ross some way sweeter flag designs, and steal the jelly beans out of Reagan's hand every time he tries to eat some from January 3rd 1979 - December 26th 1990.


Absolutely not, Betamax was bad. The rumors you always hear that it was higher quality are from people who assume that since Betacam (a professional grade, quite expensive, analog tape format in a similar form factor but completely incompatible) was good, Betamax must have been too. Betamax and VHS have identical quality, but Betamax always recorded less.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Volcott posted:

If you could go back in time but for reasons the only thing you could do was meet Hitler, shake his hand and get an autograph, would you bother going?
How much do autographs of Hitler sell for?

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