Valkyria Chronicles 3: What's in a Name?

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Cialis Railman posted:

How the gently caress does Gallia's military even function considering everyone in it is horribly corrupt?

I do not think anything in this game series has ever displayed much of a sense of any actual tactics or strategy.

I mean 'Hey, maybe we make a feint and then slam them from the flank' is treated as groundbreaking genius tactics and not a normal thing a military academy grad would think of.

# ¿ May 21, 2015 04:46

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:10

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

It reminds me of the Warhams (and honestly a lot of science fiction and fantasy) wherein you are constantly told a character is an amazing officer and strategist, and their strategy boils down to 'I wanted to win really bad, so I won. I don't really suggest losing, that's a bad move'

This is basically generally the level of strategy on display in a lot of military fiction and it's hilarious.

# ¿ May 21, 2015 18:11

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I admit I kinda like the stress candy for when he has to slow down a second, stop getting aggravated, and think.

# ¿ May 21, 2015 18:22

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

paragon1 posted:

Penal battalions don't make much sense if they're super easy to desert from.

Galia's army is incredibly dumb: Do you expect they'd do any better at guarding their prisoners than they do at every other aspect of war?

# ¿ May 21, 2015 20:56

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

That toady officer has a hell of a punch to throw a grown man flying.

So we've found the one thing normal Gallian soldiers can do: Throw a punch.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 01:16

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Internet Kraken posted:

I think there is a series of Warhammer 40K books about a guy who is hailed as a hero of the Imperium just for displaying basic competence and also being really lucky.

Caiaphas Cain, yes. He's simply a competent morale officer and liaison who understands winning is often his only chance to live. The books aren't great, but by Warhams standards they're at least funny.

And yes, I can buy Kurt so far. He's trying to make the best of a bad situation and keep his head, and I can appreciate that.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 02:08

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

The nation of Gallia does seem to be pretty rear end in a top hat rich on the whole, it's true.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 02:44

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Crabtree posted:

Some noble tried to draft her Grandson and she said no with a knitting needle through both of his pampered eyes.

I really hope this is true.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 21:49

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

So the Granny is best played as a balls to the wall badass who needs no cover and comes from the night to leave only corpses?

I approve of this.

# ¿ May 23, 2015 01:36

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I think you're improving things a fair bit.

# ¿ May 23, 2015 21:56

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Gusurg seems like a pretty level-headed and cool second in command.

# ¿ May 25, 2015 21:23

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Man, those art design pages for Reila are just ridiculous. "She can't close her jacket, tits too big."

# ¿ May 26, 2015 07:01

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Being a dude who is good at both cooking and finding decent ingredients must make Giuilo a really popular dude in the squad.

I'm glad his side-story was actually about him doing stuff. It fit much better than VC2. It was a little corny, but it got his personality across pretty well.

# ¿ May 27, 2015 06:33

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Man, Deit has it pretty bad. Joins the army to defend his home and family, gets sent to a meatgrinder penal unit because of his race, and then his family dies anyway.

# ¿ May 28, 2015 18:44

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Cake Attack posted:

she's the best

If you've grown tired of sassy badass cynical granny, you have grown tired of life.

# ¿ May 28, 2015 20:33

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

DOOP posted:

Annika didn't shank a dude to be in the Nameless, but eh, close enough

I can accept Batmaning the poo poo out of someone as a replacement.

# ¿ May 29, 2015 03:27

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Gloria is the only one of those I know by name.

# ¿ May 30, 2015 03:31

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Glazius posted:

I suppose the Nameless are short enough on manpower that leaving anybody behind is going to hurt.

It's a reasonable reason for 'I won't let my troopers die', beyond that just being a goal for an officer to shoot for when possible. He can't afford losses.

# ¿ May 30, 2015 04:13

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

People who pissed off the wrong guy being stuck in a forlorn penal squad is perfectly in theme, though.

# ¿ May 30, 2015 15:59

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Cynical badass crime granny is the gift that keeps giving.

# ¿ May 30, 2015 22:22

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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with a bear.

Samovar posted:

She's certainly different in that she's supposed to be old and ACTUALLY looks old, unlike in so many other anime-like games.

She's also actually a criminal, having apparently been a hitman, smuggler, and pretty much everything else.

# ¿ May 31, 2015 18:25

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I get where he's coming from, but I think Felix is the most annoying character in the game so far and I'm a little disappointed the resolution wasn't him learning that maybe sometimes you gotta roll the dice. War isn't safe and no matter how often you shout about 'protecting everyone' you aren't gonna change that.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 20:31

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Oh, I know. It's more that it's just a slight disappointment since he's probably one of my most hated anime stereotypes.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 20:38

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

You know, that was batshit insane and dumb, but I couldn't help but be a bit amused by 'use the crazy lady to distract the enemy, then flank them.'

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 04:36

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I kinda liked that the Imperials reacted entirely with 'What the hell is the deal here, should we shoot her or what?' instead of going along with the whole thing and acting afraid or anything.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 04:42

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I see anime Historians are every bit as annoying as anime Scientists.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 18:34

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

EponymousMrYar posted:

Alas his stomach is filled with dreams and intelligence.

Alfons is nicely balanced by being a hyper competent detective with getting whipped by Leila all the time. Plus while this scene is practically a page out of most Detective manga/TV/movie scenes in it's execution Alfons is putting the nails in a Gallian Noble so it's hard not to enjoy him getting his comeuppance.

I still think Miles Edgeworth is better though

Also, considering his past interactions, it's probably not exactly where you expected him to go. It was pretty good.

It's a shame Kurt did not have a similar appetite for suspicious letters.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 02:40

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Mzbundifund posted:

It's really refreshing after seeing Avan indulge every single one of the team's stupid whims to have Kurt just flatly deny requests which he thinks are dumb or counter-productive.

It's also nice to see he occasionally makes allowances, like covering for Deit so that he wouldn't face the firing squad by saying 'Yeah, we totally sent this guy out to scout.'

He's not very good at socializing but he does seem to get that he's got to be a mix of disciplinarian and understanding to be a good leader.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 19:50

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Cardinal Borgia, eh? This man can only be upright and trustworthy in all ways.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 21:04

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Ah, there's the painful writing I remember. It was just waiting for the love interests.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 23:31

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Annointed posted:

She's just lactose intolerant and unable to say it.

Perhaps she can overcome it by needing to drink milk to defuse a bomb.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 00:37

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Yeah, I'm confident they'll get better. That cardinal guy's salvation stuff hurt more.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 01:12

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Elric posted:

Same. I was all expecting him to be some "Purge the Darscen!" bastard, but he may wind up not being evil.

No, he's tricking you. The religious guy always seems decent at first so that he can come back at you with AND I WAS WICKED ALL ALONG! We ARE still in a jRPG, and one where the setting's central injustice is a long-term lie by the religious and historical traditions of Europa.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 01:01

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

You know, though, this isn't actually that far fetched.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident

I mean, sometimes that happens. Someone sees a wounded enemy or someone who seems helpless, and sees them as a person instead of their foe and does what people tend to do and tries to help.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 17:12

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I dunno, if you want to be really charitable to the game, you could say they use a normal Imperial soldier to point out that even these faceless mooks are someone's brother, father, husband, or whatever.

I don't think that's the case here, mind.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2015 18:43

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Man, Shin is kind of an idiot.

Kurt's job must be a nightmare.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 08:31

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Well, also, 'Consistently survives absolute disasters.' might make her look like she's a deserter or regularly the first one out before a retreat is called. That was what I was assuming they'd done, assumed she was a coward instead of a psychotically brave norse magical girl.

They could also have tossed her on the principle of 'She makes us look bad and we're spiteful dicks.'

# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 00:19

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

So, what's so awesome about Gallia besides 'we have a shitton of magic rocks'? Every official body of state seems to be staffed with incompetents, assholes, and traitors.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 06:37

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Ikasuhito posted:

They also have by the end of Vc2 something like three magic girls running around to everybody elses none, and if there is anything this series cares about its magic girls or people with magic girl powers

We must not allow the creation of a strategic magical girl gap!

# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 07:57

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:10

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

"No, don't let him in!" is the proper response to Avan.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2015 23:28

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