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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

From what I've read Mind Game was released in all of like 3 screens in the U.S., to near universal acclaim. Mainstream US anime acceptance died when Miyazaki retired, you just have to deal with that.

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Jostiband
May 7, 2007

Srice posted:

I am thinking that for a finale to the simulwatch both of them could be done in the same day? Maybe have the start time be a bit earlier but all the same roughly 2.5 hours so that should be perfectly doable.

Considering the fact that it's almost morning, I'd like to vote in favour of an earlier start time for this thing. :shepicide:

YIKES Stay Gooned posted:

that looks loving cool

It does indeed! Probably somewhat hard to get these days though.
Unfortunately, my Official Anime & Manga Budget has already been reserved for other purchases for the foreseeable future.
And by that I mean my groceries budget that gets unwisely spent on dumb japanese stuff instead.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Jostiband posted:

Considering the fact that it's almost morning, I'd like to vote in favour of an earlier start time for this thing. :shepicide:

I might not be able to make anything much earlier (at most probably an hour early) but I know it leaves a lot of people outside America in the cold if they don't want to stay up hella late for the live watching. Hard to work around :smith:

Timezones are rough.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Srice posted:

I might not be able to make anything much earlier (at most probably an hour early) but I know it leaves a lot of people outside America in the cold if they don't want to stay up hella late for the live watching. Hard to work around :smith:

Timezones are rough.

Personally I think it doesn't really matter because the value of these watches are the discussion after the fact, I don't really care about live posting, and if we keep choosing high quality subjects the discussion will be good.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Tarranon posted:

I'm not a wise man in very technical aspects, shun knowledge, and hide from the sun, and the light of human ingenuity

that's why i'll just talk about my feelings

i'm not sure there's a scene in the entire film you don't see nishi's nips. combined with his nature it gives him a naked, vulnerable aesthetic, and then perhaps a freed one. clothes protect and restrict, as anyone who's ever seen anime masterpiece of all time forever kill le kill will tell you

for me the most interesting thing about art in general is the ability to state something horrifyingly mundane, and then make you believe in it, and what's more make you want to come along for the ride. the idea that there are things that you can change, and things you can't, and god grant me the grace and etc is old as time. the film, never bothering to hide any of its themes in a way Yuuasa usually doesn't, tells you upfront 'your life is the result of your own decisions', but then thinks about it for a couple of hours

life is a thing that crashes into you, and you tread as best you can. some people will have a harder time of it, others won't, and you can't even cry out to god because god takes care of himself, and can maybe spare some pity; you take care of you

having not exhausted his catalog I can't say it certainly but everything by this director seems to have this push and pull between the things we are capable of, the things we are motivated to do, and the realities of our lives that prevent us from doing this, whether it's big tits and swimming or zero aptitude but insane motivation at ping pong

the reason i always find yuuasa's take on these pretty tried concepts interesting (and this is on top of the art, the editing, the pacing, the music all so vibrant and full of life that i don't really feel they need my words), is that he approaches the topic with a combination of unflinching bravery and above all compassion.

it's easy to make a sympathetic story about a loser. it's hard to look directly at their failures, hold the person responsible for them, maybe even never give them any sort of redemptive arc, but still love them.

but here is a director that loves failures and heroes at the same time; that understands that passion and motivation can sometimes yield incredible results, but also that sometimes you can give your very all and come up short, and maybe it's their fault and maybe it's not but at the end of the day it doesn't matter; it's life. ordinarily either of those concepts are big enough to fill a story concerning one protagonist on their own, but his worlds are full of nothing but them; celebrities, sales reps, ping pong masters and burnouts, college adventurers, aspiring and successful artists, and a man who lived in a whale for more than 30 years

i love him a lot and i love this movie

Thank you for writing this.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

YIKES Stay Gooned posted:

Personally I think it doesn't really matter because the value of these watches are the discussion after the fact, I don't really care about live posting, and if we keep choosing high quality subjects the discussion will be good.

Oh yeah it's definitely something that I don't personally care about (I only posted once or twice during this because drat, Mind Game is so loving good), but I do know that some folks have fun doing it, and more power if they do I say.

Nobody has been missing important, obvious stuff in the movies by liveposting or just watching at 4x speed so I definitely feel that even the liveposting has been better than some of the past simulwatches, haha.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
When he accepted an award for Ping Pong back in March, Yuasa mentioned that his next project is a new, original anime film. So hype.

Jostiband
May 7, 2007

YIKES Stay Gooned posted:

Personally I think it doesn't really matter because the value of these watches are the discussion after the fact, I don't really care about live posting, and if we keep choosing high quality subjects the discussion will be good.

I thought the true value was having dotJPG posting music videos about them?
But yeah, I only barely managed to output some white noise because I didn't really want to miss anything important, or break the flow by pausing the movie.
The obvious solution is to only watch bad, and boring anime in future simulwatchathons. :v:

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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Just finished this I really have to mull it over before I even write up on the film itself, but I loved it none the less.


Masaaki Yuasa loving gets me man

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

The Devil Tesla posted:

When he accepted an award for Ping Pong back in March, Yuasa mentioned that his next project is a new, original anime film. So hype.

I'm really excited for this

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Yuasa has the same problems with sex and self-worth that Imaishi has, but if you gave an unlimited time and budget to both Imaishi would make hardcore porn, whereas Yuasa would make the second best anime film of all time (it won't top End of Eva).

Jostiband
May 7, 2007

He may come close, but he does not yet hate anime enough. Give him time.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Hey srice, the finale to this should be End of Eva, because I watch that movie once every 3 to 4 months anyway and would love to have an audience to discuss it with. Another humble suggestion from your main man YIKES Stay Gooned

Jostiband
May 7, 2007

Wouldn't EoE be kind of errr... confusing without the context the series provides?
I mean I've been getting into dumb eva slapfights for more than half my life now and I'm still not sure I've got a proper read on that thing.
What if some poor loving newbie wanders into the brainpulper? Maybe save the whole thing for some later date?

I'm still shilling for Wings of Honneamise because it's standalone, beautiful, and Winderia made me remember that a world without pusherprops is kind of poo poo.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Yeah it'd be complete nonsense and it's a terrible suggestion but it's the best animated film ever.

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

YIKES Stay Gooned posted:

From what I've read Mind Game was released in all of like 3 screens in the U.S., to near universal acclaim. Mainstream US anime acceptance died when Miyazaki retired, you just have to deal with that.

I feel like Yuasa is kind of interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if he slips into some larger Western acceptance eventually. Like he had a Kickstarter short which aired on Cartoon Network, directed an episode of their biggest show, and his studio has a Tumblr that seems somewhat geared towards English speakers. There's a lot of people like Anno who bemoan the death of anime, but I think Yuasa realizes there's a larger and possible more sustainable scene possible for people like him.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
A few years ago I probably would've sat down and wrote some screed about how I fundamentally disagreed with the movies message because in the real world bla bla bla bla nature bla bla bla nurture bla bla bla bla.

All that mattered to me was that the movie was fun, cool and it made me feel pretty drat good. I especially loved the old guy and everything that went down in his pad including the escape.

I think if I had access to this movie as a kid it would've been one of those movies I watched pretty regularly in the summer.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

YIKES Stay Gooned posted:

Yeah it'd be complete nonsense and it's a terrible suggestion but it's the best animated film ever.

I think I'd be down for running a simulwatch of the tv series and EoE in the near future, so that way people would have the context they need for EoE. Since both are hella out of print at this point I wouldn't have to worry about the time it'd take for people to order dvds and what not.

It's an idea that was too hot for old ADTRW,. I remember a few years back I saw people asking if they could run one and being explicitly told no, they cannot.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

are people actually bothering with ordering stuff for this?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

I'd be down for Eva watch if we can wait until the blurays are out. That's not till the end of August though.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Davincie posted:

are people actually bothering with ordering stuff for this?

With this one I chose stuff that was either out of print, legally streaming, or never licensed in the first place since I just wanted to make it easy to stay in line with the no piracy rule.

I know that in the past there had been some shows where the only legal option was a physical dvd release so people were told to watch it that way.

And I'm sure that plenty of people found other options but that's how it goes.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
The Eva simulwatch should be on the Lord's day.

edit: Also I liked how even though Nisha was sorta rejected at the end it didn't matter to him anymore.

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 7, 2015

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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Masaaki Yuasa has made 4 things I've watched, and one I will not talk about because I watched it 10 years ago and it didn't make any sense to 20 year old Veskit (Kemonozume). In all of Mind Game, Ping Pong and Tatami Galaxy he leans into a theme heavily of moving forward with your own life and the importance of efforts, each however with their own tweak.


Tatami Galaxy sort of spoke to me in the frustration of life and just wishing you had done one thing different, or that you were born into a different situation or any number of things that you would consider life changing. (spoiler about the overall arc point of the last episode) In the end though the realization that the power to move forward with your goals regardless of what happens in your life is what prevails to make you a stronger happier person. Although Tatami really is strongest proponent of the bootstraps theme, it nails the point that it's not that by pulling yourself up and puting your effort into something as much as you can doesn't mean you'll get what you want, instead it tells that by moving forward and working as hard as you can on a goal you'll find satisfaction in the journey. Moving forward and pushing yourself is vital to happiness.


Ping Pong however is another anime that is about moving forward, but it instead is more about the sports concept you hear all the time if you watch sports of will vs skill and kind of subverts it into a life story. Overall we come to find that it really isn't a competition between will or skill, but instead it's a harmony of the two that makes you successful in your goals. It's bullshit to think that you can just get by on hard work alone, and it's boastful and egotistical to think you can just get by on skill alone. Through both hard work and the luck you were born with only comes greatness. But again the common key and theme that ties this in with the others is that the will to be better and to be your best is ultimately where you find your happiness and satisfaction. To reach the highest point of your abilities and run with it as far as you can is truly how you fly.


All of his future anime's in which I have seen were thematically in the foundation of Mind Game. When given the chance to push forward happiness, love, satisfaction, pure bliss, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY ART become ingrained in yourself. Once Nishi dies and is afforded the opportunity to move forward constantly only does his life really become beautiful. The entire style and art changes drastically to reflect this, and you see it in the characters too. In the end everyone uses every resource available and ounce of will to push themselves what was a happy fun place into a world that was phenomenal and amazing. I think what I liked most about the ending with this theme is that everyone made it through their hard work, but where they landed wasn't exactly what was expected, nor did it matter. What mattered was the journey and that nobody stagnated from that point forward.


So yeah why Masaaki resonates with me is because i strongly believe in the ability of everyone to push themselves to greatness without defining what greatness is. It's about the effort and the journey, while the rest will work itself out. So go push yourselves everyone, it's worth it I promise!

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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In closing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Tatami Mat galaxy is so good, that's another show I should watch again. It's the only foreign media I've seen where j really wish I knew the language

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog
I think another good thing the movie demonstrates is that sometime to move forward you have to make a genuine leap of faith. It's an extremely privileged life that can both hedge its bets and move forward at the same time

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

gently caress YEAH!

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Just finished this. What a loving incredible movie.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

That part is so good.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Such a good movie.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

I'm pleased to announce that the new adtrw simulwatchathon is going to be Ken Burn's The Civil War, because that's what I'm watching mindgame with tonight.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Sharkopath posted:

I'm pleased to announce that the new adtrw simulwatchathon is going to be Ken Burn's The Civil War, because that's what I'm watching mindgame with tonight.

I'm okay with that.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

The end of Ken Burn's The Civil War hit me hard the first time I saw it and the impact never really went away. The North won the battle but the South won the war for American culture. :smith:

Just remembered I had Mind Game downloaded and forgot to watch it after work so watching it now. Won't be liveposting responses in general because that's no way to get a coherent thought out. All I have to say at the moment is dude was literally shot in the rear end, died, and is face to face with this:

NOW  LORDING...

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I was supposed to come up with a coherent thought but I failed, sorry.

This movie was really mindblowingly evocative though. Also, good.


Still trying to figure out the relationships between everyone as illustrated in the montages.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Here's what we're watching this Saturday, for the finale.



Aim for the Ace!

720p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/168908/ace-wo-nerae-aim-for-the-ace-bd-720p-iznjie-biznjie

1080p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/168909/ace-wo-nerae-aim-for-the-ace-bd-1080p-iznjie-biznjie

and after that



Angel's Egg:

720p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/176804/tenshi-no-tamago-angels-egg-bd-720p-kazali-te-tragedije

1080p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/176869/tenshi-no-tamago-angels-egg-bd-1080p-pwm


Angel's Egg is an early Oshii work and Aim for the Ace is one of the things that influenced Gunbuster. The former is out of print and the latter has never been licensed, so downloads it is.

Unlike the rest of the stuff in the simulwatch, I haven't seen these. So I'm hyped!

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Srice posted:

Here's what we're watching this Saturday, for the finale.



Aim for the Ace!

720p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/168908/ace-wo-nerae-aim-for-the-ace-bd-720p-iznjie-biznjie

1080p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/168909/ace-wo-nerae-aim-for-the-ace-bd-1080p-iznjie-biznjie

and after that



Angel's Egg:

720p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/176804/tenshi-no-tamago-angels-egg-bd-720p-kazali-te-tragedije

1080p: https://bakabt.me/torrent/176869/tenshi-no-tamago-angels-egg-bd-1080p-pwm


Angel's Egg is an early Oshii work and Aim for the Ace is one of the things that influenced Gunbuster. The former is out of print and the latter has never been licensed, so downloads it is.

Unlike the rest of the stuff in the simulwatch, I haven't seen these. So I'm hyped!

loving cool. I've been meaning to see Aim for the Ace ever since I saw Gunbuster.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Cool, never seen Aim for the Ace and seeing people's opinions on Angel's Egg is going to be, umm, interesting.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
I haven't heard of either so needless to say I'm really looking forward to both.

edit:


Sort of reminds me of the character art from ff6.

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Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
I was really into Amano's art in high school and always wanted to watch Angel's Egg but never had the chance, then pretty much forgot it existed so I'm a little excited to finally see it.

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