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Scribblehatch posted:Any of you guys ever dealt with precensorship before? I think knowledge and awareness of the subject, and more importantly: a confident and deliberate yet careful execution, is the line between a good call and a bad one. Years ago when I was still an edgy teenager I was working on what would become a long term project, and I had the idea that at some point this female character would get assaulted and murdered. Like, fire-extinguisher-in-the-face Irreversible (2002) stuff and super graphic. And I thought, "Yep, that's shocking. My artistic vision is maximum." But it was poo poo. It took me a number of months to realise, but it was undeveloped, there was no reason for it, it contributed nothing to the rest of it, it was thematically out of left field, and I have literally nothing interesting or relevant to add or say about it beyond "it's grim, ugly and horrible". That scene is pretty much gone or reworked into something that's still shocking but in a very different way that won't rile people the same way. That's not to say I could never do something like the original example, but at the time I wasn't equipped to tackle it with the skill, seriousness, or tact it deserved. Genuine and serious real world issues that touch or befall actual people need a level of thorough thought and consideration and a delicate hand to not gently caress it up and give it the respect it deserves. If one lacks the delicacy or respect for the subject, it shouldn't be done. But that said, everyone is different. I swear often and don't have a problem with bad language (or nudity for that matter but because I live with other people I don't want them to walk in from behind and get the wrong idea) and would include it in most things, but it is something that bothers some and there is a desire to scale it back and allocate just one gently caress and three shits or so if it's something I'm intending to be consumed by a more mainstream audience. If not, gently caress it and just do it. Rather than thinking of it as censoring an artistic vision, think of it as a problem like any other in your story that needs to be resolved, because there is probably a happier medium in between. Like choosing how violent and how much blood should be seen in fights: do you go hyper gory blood everywhere and have close-ups of bone piercing skin, do you "censor it by looking away and (perhaps accidentally?) fetishize the violence like Hitchcock or the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs, no blood at all like Ninja Turtles or any American cartoon, or just allow blood and show it matter of factly without drawing attention to it or hiding it. The right amount of thought, and a clear idea of intent.
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Making Comics Thread: Shitposting into the void three times an hour.
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Squidster posted:It's one of those weird things in comics - at an early career level, it's all about the artists. Any wannabe writer needs an artist to get their totally-sweet idea in the real world, and artists get the lion's share of respect. As a product takes off, the audience often seems to end up respecting the writer more and the artist less. I don't think it's just comics really. Film and TV are touched by hundreds of hands but when there's something to talk about (good or bad) people tend to refer to the director or showrunner ("gently caress you Joss/Bay/Weiss&Benioff/Moffat)" but that's because those names are at the top of a list and are supposedly/arguably the more driving force behind the thing. Re characters post-its: As someone more at home in the fiction writing thread I find this very odd. I mean, sure, they don't have to be likable, relatable, or sympathetic - they might be the antagonist or an antihero and those qualities aren't exactly wanted in huge doses. But all compelling and interesting characters, just like everyone in reality, wants something and is chasing something. They have goals, needs, and wants. Mary sue, flawed hero, antihero or villain; if there's soemthing they really loving want, that instantly makes them somewhat relatable and sympathetic, and maybe even admirable. And I kinda wish people didn't dogpile Scribblehatch because a) the poo poo you're talking about isn't even in the comic, and b) you are aware that nudism is a real thing that exists that real people do who would give you an earful for thinking their lifestyle choice was sexual or something to be ashamed of? And if he goes in that direction anyway and it clearly isn't cheesecake or pornographic (which I find rich considering the self-pub thread is nothing but) then who gives a poo poo? He's never the one mentioning it.
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Jul 28, 2015 23:00
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Scribblehatch posted:Szmitten I've been meaning to ask you if you had an email for awhile now. Surely there's other ways to talk to you! I never knew how booklets that size were stapled like that and now I'm in love with that stapler. That looks so useful.
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Jul 29, 2015 23:34
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Scribblehatch posted:What am I checking for exactly..? I left you a message there. I'm too cheap for PMs here.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:01
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Scribblehatch posted:Well I deduced which tumblr yours is, but I never got a message. Ah whatever, my username at gmail. Note I'm in the far flung future of BST. Szmitten fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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On the other hand, having an excuse to practise by redrawing similar panels over and over is probably a good idea to help improve.
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