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There's now a chatroom, #makingcomics on synIRC. If you've never used IRC before, just ask for help. This thread is for anything comic-making-related. Comics are a great marriage between prose and illustration and they have their own unique language and structure, I like comics a lot! This thread will be more skewed towards making webcomics, but most of the same stuff applies to print comics as well. More and more these days, independent comic artists are finding a good audience online, we're in a real upswing of comics as a medium. It's an exciting time! Previous Thread is Here How do I use this thread?
New Resources! Background and design tutorials from Twitter user Thomas Romaine. Lots of neat perspective tricks. Film Directing Shot by Shot: Visualizing from Concept to Screen: Geared more to film, but lots of stuff can be applied to comics, too. Random Resources scoured from the old thread. Comics: How to make a comic - An essential step by step guide from the very talented and successful creator of Lackadaisy Cats. From Heresiarch a bunch of stuff! Wally Wood's 22 Essential Panels Books about comics: Scott McCloud - ignoring the early 2000s "the internet is the future" stuff, Making Comics and Understanding Comics are still two solid resources. Reinventing Comics is a bit more dated and probably just worth a library check-out, if that. Will Eisner How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way Random Art Posts from the old thread: The classic Tom & Jerry Line of Action How to draw lively poses - Spongebob drawing tips from Nickelodeon Expressions - An excellent primer on expressions from Tracy Butler of Lackadaisy Cats. The Phobs face tutorial. Coelasquid's How to Draw Beef, and other tutorials (maker of Manly Guys doing Manly Things, professional animator). OP is still a work in progress, feel free to complain about anything up there and submit OP stuff throughout the thread. Mercury Hat fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Goooon Comiiiiiiics! PM me or post in this thread to get your comic added to the post below Goon run comics! Some of these goons may have moved on, but their comics linger. Here are even more goon comics: Princess Rainblood - Operation Juicebox Dreamers - Nessa Latch Key Kingdom - psych Iothera - rincewind Monster Pulse GunnerKrigg Court - TeaSan - Has its own thread here. The Intrepid Girlbot - Snicket Sorcery 101 - KellHound The Dragon Doctors - Speedball Retired or not updating Bobwhite by MagnoliaPearl untitled comic - Oldyogurt Name Removed - 0sn paltry achievements Little Blue Couch Girly (ended) - SuperHappy Templar, Arizona - DarthVersace Do you run a comic, and want to have your thumbnail added to this post? Just Post or PM me a 300 x 250 thumbnail that contains the name of the comic. Mercury Hat fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Aug 19, 2016 |
# ¿ May 24, 2015 01:35 |
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I went ahead and added an Imgur album with Thomas Romaine's stuff to the OP: Background and design tutorials from Twitter user Thomas Romaine. Lots of neat perspective tricks.
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# ¿ May 24, 2015 14:27 |
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If you're looking to punch up your stuff with more action, you'll probably have good luck with Draw Comics the Marvel Way as well as the DC equivalent The DC Comics Guide to Creating Comics. Sometimes public libraries have a copy of one or both or you can probably get them cheap secondhand on amazon or half.com.
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# ¿ May 26, 2015 11:31 |
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My viewpoint is if it's directly important to the story, you should have an idea of how it works. If you're figuring out the past millenia of conflict between your elves and trolls and your story is about a kobold running a coffee shop you might have gotten carried away. The most important thing of writing a story or drawing a comic, in my view, is to actually draw or write it. It's great if, after five years, you're happy with a pile of character designs and set pieces, but if the only way people can appreciate your story is to browse a wiki or your dA art gallery, that's not really a story. JRR Tolkien didn't publish the Silmarillion first, after all.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 18:01 |
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For anyone using Gimp for Windows, make sure to get it from their official site. The devs put out a warning that Sourceforge is bundling it with ads or something.quote:It appears that +SourceForge took over the control of the 'GIMP for Windows' account and is now distributing an ads-enabled installer of GIMP. They also locked out original owner of the account, Jernej Simončič, who has been building the Windows versions of GIMP for our project for years.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 22:04 |
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June is officially unofficially NaNoMango part 2! Nanomango is the comic counterpart to Nanowrimo, but less stringent in the "rules".
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 22:50 |
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Space-Bird posted:I keep trying to write about present day earth, but by the time I start writing about the present it's already the past. PLEASE ADVISE. Watch this scene, then try to apply the lessons you learn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drjr9PmTMA
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 23:20 |
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I just finished thumbnailing my next chapter, 12 pages this time. That should take me through to at least the middle of the month. Keep it up, guys .
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 02:38 |
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How's everyone going on their Nanomango? I got started a few days ago and have managed three pages so far. I won't be able to keep up that pace, but it's a nice jumpstart to the chapter. This one's set right in Washington DC so I had a lot of fun trying to draw the landmarks and fudging a lot of the details.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 22:24 |
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Scripting/thumbnailing takes the longest for me, mostly because I combine my rough pencils with thumbnailing. It's not the drawing that takes the longest, it's thinking about what I'm going to do. To keep from getting burned out, I'll usually do one or two pages in a sitting, then do something else. Once that's all done, though, I ink pretty quick, maybe two hours if I let my attention wander. Drawing new locations and new things takes longer, of course. I'm pretty loose with the details, sometimes I don't bother until I get to inking. I'm not sure I'd recommend my method to anyone else though. This chapter, I'm drawing animals, something I don't really do much .
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2015 02:38 |
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Mercury Hat posted:This chapter, I'm drawing animals, something I don't really do much . Need to figure what I'm doing next though, haha.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 04:30 |
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Hey, cool. I'll mostly be lurking since I'm out of the house or asleep most times people are active, but I'm there.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2015 11:30 |
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Finally got the next chapter pencilled out, now the easy part .
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 22:36 |
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I did hand lettering for awhile, and I think I really benefited from it. For me, the opposite of Subnormality happened, where I realized how much dialogue I was trying to cram into a page and it really forced me to scale it back. Hand lettering also makes you really aware of how your dialogue is a part of your comic page, not just a separate layer floating on top of it. If you aren't, you really should be planning your dialogue and balloon placement in your thumbnailing stages. Dialogue is the first thing I put in before I move on to inking. I had to switch to a font starting here though, because the more careful inking needed for writing dialogue was causing my arthritis to flare up pretty badly. It's a font made from my handwriting, though, and even though it's all caps, I wrote each letter twice to have some variety in double letters.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2015 22:07 |
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To get a little Scott McCloud for a moment: have you experimented with different sized pages and layouts? A comic page doesn't have to fit neatly on an A4 sheet of paper these days (though it's best to keep in mind printing size if that's something you'd want to do). You can try horizontal, rather than vertical, overlap panels, chop up panels, whatever. In my experience, it's much easier to layout a page if I lay it all out at once. What might help is thinking of your page as one big panel, with multiple smaller ones breaking it up. The action on the page flows much the same way as the action in a panel. I do all my layouts digitally these days, for the most part, and I think it's helpful to have multiple pages side by side. As for where to end a page, you sort of learn that by doing, there's no hard and fast rule. Luckily comics are a pretty fluid medium and you can get away with a lot, just experiment.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 22:02 |
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Clip Studio Paint (aka Manga Studio) is on sale for the next 5 days. Worth checking out: http://www.clipstudio.net/en
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2015 23:15 |
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I get my motivation by realizing that some nights it's more important to me to work on my comic rather than refresh the same website over and over. After dinner between 7 and 9 that's two hours I could put to drawing, rather than falling down another Watch Mojo top # video list hole. Not to say there aren't days where I do just that instead of drawing.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2015 21:44 |
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Most any long form story is going to suffer from a page or so a week update, it's just the big name webcomics have fans and wikis that make it easy to refresh your memory on what's happening. I'm pretty bad at following drawn stories, I rely on comments sections a lot. The benefit to webcomics is other fans will speak up if they don't get something, or ask someone else, plus they can easily go re-read something. Don't discount confusion out of hand, but try finding a few people whose opinions you trust to give you feedback on what they think. It might not be confusion, some stories just read better in a big sitting. Or turn it into a joke.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2015 18:06 |
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I think the purple on her face makes her look like a zombie. That'd be pretty cool, like her power is the only thing keeping the darkness of death away.quote:This is a girl? I really couldn't tell at first, maybe you could punch up her design a bit? It'll be easy to overlook the fine detail of eyelashes in an actual page. I'd like to see how they all interact in a comic, though. Are you sure the size difference between the other girls and the alien won't make blocking a scene too difficult? It's great to have a lot of thought out world building, but if you don't actually make a page, it's hard to see any potential missteps.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2015 11:33 |
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Yeah, it feels good to hold a mini of your own stuff. I need to get into gear and figure out what I'm printing for SPX and Topatocon this year. I'm also doing the building blocks for a second comic, a western based on an episode of the Gunsmoke radio program. It would involve things I like drawing (cool ladies busting heads and sprawling outdoor scenery) and things I'm not so good at (guns and people on horseback). Older, initial concept art.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 11:31 |
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Yiiiikes, that's some bad news. Whip up some "Galacticon sucks" minis . You can even do a one page zine to save on costs. Mercury Hat fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 29, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 22:28 |
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I've got a long arm stapler for stapling minis but that booklet stapler looks handy, too.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 00:00 |
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I finished up another chapter, feels good . Now to work on the next one and figure out what I want to print up for a mini for SPX/Topatocon.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 03:40 |
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Reiley posted:I'm proud of you for sticking with this, by the way. the trick was doing comics so much that I feel like I'm wasting my time if I'm not working on them.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 12:22 |
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I thought about this in-depth analysis of the cinematography for The Incredibles and figured it'd go well here. Being a very comic booky film, most of the shots are composed like comic panels, making for a cool study and a good inspiration for panel layouts. It's incredibly () long, but a lot of good can be picked out of it. Here's a sampling: Types of camera shots. Using background elements to frame the foreground. Laying out characters in a frame. Consistency of action and direction.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 01:21 |
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I finished my pencils, 30 pages! Now to get it inked for SPX/Topatocon I'm so excited. E: and the first page is up. Holy moly I'm pumped about this comic . Mercury Hat fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Aug 21, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 02:05 |
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If you spring for manga studio ex (which I got on a hellaciously good sale) it has a book layout mode that groups your pages together in a unique file. It's not exactly necessary and probably not worth the price difference, but it's nice to have. The other thing ex comes with is the 3d poser model things I never use.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 18:57 |
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I'm up to 10 pages done (only uploading one a day though), I'm having a lot of fun drawing this . I don't often draw people being assholes to each other, it's a nice change of pace.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 02:41 |
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It's more for writing stories than scripts, but I thought Quoll Writer was neat.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2015 11:23 |
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As long as art is clean and the reader can tell what's happening, most won't be driven off. It's hard to tell without a finished page, but you're at least at a good starting point. My early stuff was a lot rougher, to be sure. If every artist waited until they felt like they were perfect, there'd be a lot less artists around and it's like triply-true of webcomics . You're going to improve while you work on a comic, it's just the nature of things. What I like most about doing comics is drawing nearly every day helps me improve and every page I finish feels like it's better than the one before. It's a good feeling to have an archive of improvements, I think!
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2015 23:14 |
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I never developed much of an eye for color so I stick to monochrome and I think it works for me. There's still a lot for me to learn about doing a black and white comic, though.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2015 01:53 |
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It probably breaks down on the creator vs reader line. A reader is probably more likely to think black and white or monochrome stuff is only half the work of color since hey you have to draw it in black and white first right? That's where the devaluation comes in, ignoring that really good b&w stuff isn't just drawing the lineart and forgetting to add color. Likewise, when I was starting out, lo these 12 years ago, it was common advice to tell newbies to use color for these reasons. Color can definitely make up for mediocre work (which is most new artists) and readers did usually prefer color. If I had to guess, I'd say that since newspaper comics are mostly b&w, it was a way to distinguish your stuff and be more like the big publisher comics. Plus, at the time, no one was thinking about publishing books so since you're on the web, why not use a bunch of color? I think it's probably changed since then, especially since most manga-style stuff isn't in color, there's probably less push for color if you can make monochrome look good. But if you like black and white / monochrome, and want to get better at it, just do it.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2015 12:54 |
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I finished my western, I'm so happy . It's an adaptation of an episode of Gunsmoke (you can actually listen to the whole thing here, if you're interested). I had so much fun doing something new and somehow I managed to slide this in under the wire to get some minis printed up for SPX this year. I'd really like to do another one, but I think I'd also like to get back to my poor neglected main comic. I've had two months of nothing but westerns rolling around in my head. Here's some panels I liked:
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2015 00:44 |
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Puppy Time posted:Hey Merc would it be possible to buy one of the hard copies? My dad loves Gunsmoke and I'd like to get him one. Yeah, sure, though this is a fair bit different from the actual program, haha. You can drop me a line at gunmetalannie at gmail and we'll figure something out. Rethy posted:(Drop Dead was super good A+) I guess a western's more popular than I thought it would be, I'm real surprised at all the positive responses I've been getting. I thought it would be some weird little niche project of mine, but I'm glad people enjoyed it.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 23:00 |
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Double posting because Manga Studio is on sale again, digital version, until September 29. $87 for EX, or $50 to upgrade your copy of 5, or buy the vanilla program for $15.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 00:06 |
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Yeah, it may not be the most trafficked thread, but I think it's helped get me motivated . In related news, I'm halfway through another story and I'm about to start roughing out another western. I think I'll alternate the two comics for the near future.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2015 03:58 |
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I love when I'm ready to ink .
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 03:37 |
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Daily reminder to draw. I'm so happy to be drawing this big lug again.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 23:32 |
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New favorite feature of Manga Studio: changing the color of your lines layer by layer .
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