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Darth Walrus posted:Between this and the Russians getting hammered over their athletics performance by Dick Pound, we live in an amazing time for sporting names. I feel I'm living in a very immature person's fiction.
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Darth Walrus posted:Between this and the Russians getting hammered over their athletics performance by Dick Pound, we live in an amazing time for sporting names. I can't believe I just googled "Dick Pound" and that it's a real person.
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Badger of Basra posted:e: the fifth guy is Tokyo Sexwale Give this man the job, because the only thing that could possibly make the FIFA clusterfuck even more beautiful is hearing a news anchor say the words "according to a statement by FIFA president Sex Whale." If I were a football executive, my voting strategy at this point would be to maximise hilarity above everything else.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Boris Galerkin posted:I can't believe I just googled "Dick Pound" and that it's a real person. 
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blowfish posted:Give this man the job, because the only thing that could possibly make the FIFA clusterfuck even more beautiful is hearing a news anchor say the words "according to a statement by FIFA president Sex Whale." It's not as if this huge scandal has any effect on the normal business of football. The national league competitions are unaffected, the Copa Libertadores or UEFA Champions League continue to print money, everything is fine except that advertising at the next World Cup may be less profitable. So there would be no harm in going maximum hilarity.
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That image is there because Dick Pound knows what his name entails, and intends to use it to maximum advantage.
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New arrests.quote:ZURICH — Swiss authorities began a new series of pre-dawn arrests Thursday in the broad investigation, led by United States officials, into corruption in international soccer. More than a dozen people were expected to be charged, law enforcement officials said, nearly doubling the size of an already huge case that has upended FIFA, soccer’s multibillion-dollar governing body. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/03/sports/fifa-scandal-arrests-in-switzerland.html
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God drat, RICO is some pretty deep poo poo to be in.
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Xandu posted:New arrests.  At least something nice happened today.
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SlipUp posted:God drat, RICO is some pretty deep poo poo to be in. This is what people were saying when this thread started: RICO may be slow moving, but it's some of the nastiest laws on the books in the US.
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Xandu posted:New arrests. Sounds like someone in the first wave rolled and they're moving on up the chain.
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I am shocked to learn of corruption in South American soccer. Shocked I tell you.
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Xandu posted:New arrests. "At least some of the arrests took place at the same luxury hotel where other FIFA officials were arrested in May." 
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Badger of Basra posted:They should really stop going to that hotel. But the amenities! Powercrazy posted:And this one world government will be a benevolent overseer. Free from corruption, and certainly not an opportunity for people like Hillary Clinton to pursue their own selfish interests of power while helping their donors along the way Wow you're obsessed with Hillary. I thought that dude in the other thread who noted you talk about her in threads totally unrelated to her was exaggerating, but holy poo poo.
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paragon1 posted:I am shocked to learn of corruption in South American soccer. Shocked I tell you. It is a feverish hope of mine that someone in FIFA rolls and in the process namedrops some IOC members. Seeing the IOC get strung up alongside FIFA would be wonderful beyond words since everyone knows the IOC is just as bad as, if not worse than, FIFA when it comes to corruption. Hopefully after the inevitable disease pandemic that is going to hit Rio-bound Olympians the IOC is at least forced to not pick literal toxic waste sites for future games.
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Cythereal posted:This is what people were saying when this thread started: RICO may be slow moving, but it's some of the nastiest laws on the books in the US. As someone else already said, RICO cases are when rich white men get told they're being tried like poor minority teens.
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Cythereal posted:This is what people were saying when this thread started: RICO may be slow moving, but it's some of the nastiest laws on the books in the US. Yeah, the thread atmosphere change from "oh good, we're arresting some dudes for corruption, it won't really matter" to "Jesus Christ, they're bringing RICO charges, Sepp Blatter and everyone he's ever met are going to the pokey forever" was hilarious.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, the thread atmosphere change from "oh good, we're arresting some dudes for corruption, it won't really matter" to "Jesus Christ, they're bringing RICO charges, Sepp Blatter and everyone he's ever met are going to the pokey forever" was hilarious. Yeah, I would personally rather be brought up on charges related to the Patriot act or the Alien & Sedition acts than the RICO act.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, the thread atmosphere change from "oh good, we're arresting some dudes for corruption, it won't really matter" to "Jesus Christ, they're bringing RICO charges, Sepp Blatter and everyone he's ever met are going to the pokey forever" was hilarious. Yeah, that's the thing with RICO. Blatter himself may still be free as of this moment, but the moment RICO was ever mentioned in relation to FIFA then you can rest assured he is going to probably spend the rest of his life in prison once it's his turn. Evil Fluffy posted:It is a feverish hope of mine that someone in FIFA rolls and in the process namedrops some IOC members. Seeing the IOC get strung up alongside FIFA would be wonderful beyond words since everyone knows the IOC is just as bad as, if not worse than, FIFA when it comes to corruption. You know, that would be an interesting turn of events if, when picked up by feds, Blatter has some sort of smoking gun to launch an investigation into the IOC that Blatter uses to try and leverage leniency. It won't help him, mind you, but it would be interesting none the less.
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DeathSandwich posted:Yeah, that's the thing with RICO. Blatter himself may still be free as of this moment, but the moment RICO was ever mentioned in relation to FIFA then you can rest assured he is going to probably spend the rest of his life in prison once it's his turn. Leniency for bosses in RICO cases is like getting 1-2 of the 10 life sentences taken off.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Leniency for bosses in RICO cases is like getting 1-2 of the 10 life sentences taken off. Hence the line "It won't help him, mind you" 
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DeathSandwich posted:You know, that would be an interesting turn of events if, when picked up by feds, Blatter has some sort of smoking gun to launch an investigation into the IOC that Blatter uses to try and leverage leniency. If someone at FIFA said "hey I can give you evidence that lets you nail the IOC to the wall but I want a sweet plea deal" they're going to get it. Maybe Obama and others care enough about the Olympics to not want to destroy the IOC but even if that's the case I strongly suspect that'll change after Rio if/when Olympians contract a bunch of nasty illnesses since the water in the competition area is basically sewage.
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Any prosecutor worth their salt would happily provide a very generous plea deal for the right kind of evidence against the IOC. Bonus comedy if it somehow circles around and hits Romney for SLC.
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Evil Fluffy posted:If someone at FIFA said "hey I can give you evidence that lets you nail the IOC to the wall but I want a sweet plea deal" they're going to get it. Maybe Obama and others care enough about the Olympics to not want to destroy the IOC but even if that's the case I strongly suspect that'll change after Rio if/when Olympians contract a bunch of nasty illnesses since the water in the competition area is basically sewage. RICO don't stop for nobody once it gets rolling. Obama will be gone in a year and this RICO case will still be dragging people in, if they can get IOC people, great, screw those guys too. That might actually get more world wide good will to the US than FIFA.
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Feds just pulled a senior Guatemalan judge off a cruise ship docked in Florida. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/0...www.google.com/
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Evil Fluffy posted:If someone at FIFA said "hey I can give you evidence that lets you nail the IOC to the wall but I want a sweet plea deal" they're going to get it. Maybe Obama and others care enough about the Olympics to not want to destroy the IOC but even if that's the case I strongly suspect that'll change after Rio if/when Olympians contract a bunch of nasty illnesses since the water in the competition area is basically sewage. A athlete who was doing test runs in preparation for the Brazil summer olympics got a bad case of flesh eating bacteria. SlipUp posted:God drat, RICO is some pretty deep poo poo to be in. RICO was so devastating to the mob since it focuses on peeling organization bottom to top using incentives such as plea bargains or immunity.
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etalian posted:A athlete who was doing test runs in preparation for the Brazil summer olympics got a bad case of flesh eating bacteria. I know. There's a few others with a bunch of illnesses and rashes/sores/etc due to the horrific conditions of the places they're practicing in. Like if Olympians die due to the conditions there I'm not going to be surprised.  e: TI'd be ok with the NFL getting hit next instead of the IOC. Surely someone in some city crossed a line with the tax incentives and other billion dollar handouts. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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I definitely heard all the stories coming in to this and I knew these guys were screwed. I've just never seen it in action before. The only other time I personally remember it coming up was one of those corrupt juvie judges. Watching it drag a corrupt international organization down to cannibalize itself in real time is pretty loving amazing. This is the most high profile RICO case ever. I'd be worried if I was the IOC. Maybe they can do the NFL next.
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ocrumsprug posted:I have a hard time imagining anyone in Justice hates their career enough to go after the NFL. Who are they going to piss off going after the NFL? They aren't goign to be cancelling games, they are going to be arresting team owners, who people generally hate anyway.
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Powercrazy posted:Who are they going to piss off going after the NFL? They aren't goign to be cancelling games, they are going to be arresting team owners, who people generally hate anyway. Private money isn't building those stadiums.
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ocrumsprug posted:Private money isn't building those stadiums. I know the Patriot's is built with private money, surely its not the only one.
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ocrumsprug posted:Private money isn't building those stadiums. If a mayor or even a congressman gets caught up in a RICO case it's not the Justice department who should be worried. They just pulled the Guatemalan equivalent of a supreme justice off a cruise ship and slapped him with a racketeering charge. I doubt they're afraid of Jim Dear or who ever the gently caress.
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SlipUp posted:I definitely heard all the stories coming in to this and I knew these guys were screwed. I've just never seen it in action before. The only other time I personally remember it coming up was one of those corrupt juvie judges. Watching it drag a corrupt international organization down to cannibalize itself in real time is pretty loving amazing. This is the most high profile RICO case ever. To be honest if we're talking about hypothetical dream scenario I'd rather them go after the NCAA before NFL. The amount of exploitation happening to college athletes ought to be criminal. Granted Last Week Tonight isn't considered a high brow source but I still feel this is relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX8BXH3SJn0
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Yeah, the NCAA is super hosed up too. The fact that every major sports organization is corrupt as gently caress at the highest levels has been the worst kept secret in sports for almost a century. The argument has always been "Who has the time or energy to go after the NCAA/NFL/whoever." Well luckily the justice department certainly does! SlipUp fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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Jarmak posted:I know the Patriot's is built with private money, surely its not the only one. Boston is the only city in the nation where the arenas/stadiums used by pro sports teams are privately owned/funded IIRC. There has to be some illegal poo poo going on in places like Atlanta with the new stadium garbage going on there.
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Jarmak posted:I know the Patriot's is built with private money, surely its not the only one. Boston had to play hardball with the Patriots to avoid paying for the stadium and for a time the Patriots were going to move to Hartford as a result. Boston has a fairly good negotiating position because it is essentially the only city in New England and you just can't ignore that whole market.
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