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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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PupsOfWar posted:

But can we use this as causus belli versus Europe?

Of course not, all of Europe is extremely grateful that you guys are taking on FIFA and Blatter. Sadly, we didn't dare/were unable to do it ourselves.

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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Strange Americans thinking anybody cares what their justice department calls football. Nobody here will start calling it soccer.


Xandu posted:

He's Swiss, pretty sure they can refuse.

I don't even think that the Swiss are really against putting Blatter behind bars, so I don't see why they would refuse to extradite him.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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I will now call the game soccer for a week to honor our American friends who have made this amazing turn of events possible.

Do you think Blatter intended to resign for a while and only didn't do it because it would have meant the election of prince Ali, and he is trying to maneuver a protege into the position of FIFA president?

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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How difficult is it to leave a country that has open borders with all neighboring states? Also, he could make his way to Poland and then would only need help to get into Kaliningrad to escape into the safety of Putin's Russia.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Spazzle posted:

What is context to why international soccer fans are so actively pissed at fifa?

The by far biggest reason is the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. You obviously can't play a World Cup in summer (the traditional WC time), since the players would simply die in the heat. That means the WC must be held at another time, and it was nearly always most likely to be held in the winter. That disrupts basically all domestic soccer leagues, who would need to be suspended at least a month before the WC, and a few weeks afterwards. Additionally, since something like 90% of all players in a World Cup play in one of Europe's domestic leagues, this would mean a lot of European clubs will have very exhausted players in the middle of the season. Some of the most successful clubs in Europe would have nearly all their first team, and a lot of their second team, playing for their countries in the tournament, since they bought basically the best players in the world, regardless of nationality. That would be a huge disadvantage, not only in their domestic season but also in the international competitions, like the UEFA Champions League (the most important soccer tournament for clubs), which could cost them dozens of millions of Euros. The English are especially unhappy with a winter World Cup, since they have a winter break a lot later than all other leagues, and the Christmas games are often the most important/popular matches in a season.

Then there is a usual snobbery, the classical European and South American soccer powers don't understand why upstarts like Qatar, who never even qualified for a World Cup, can host soccer's most important tournament. There is also the human rights issues (which is also a problem with Russia, just not as bad as in Qatar), with probably hundreds of quasi-slaves dying already to construct the soccer stadiums. And even though it's illegal to make "propaganda for deviant(gay) lifestyles" in Russia, at least you can't be sentenced to death over it like in Qatar, not to mention the treatment of women etc.

And the corruption is of course isn't good for the image of soccer, which isn't unimportant for soccer fans. Additionally, some suspect the FIFA of fixing or influencing World Cup matches, which is of course a huge deal. Examples like South Korea in the 2002 World Cup, or Brazil in the most recent World Cup come to mind.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Total Meatlove posted:

This is bullshit. The 2002 World Cup was popular, even with the complications of time differences and South Koreas magical mystery refereeing tour. People really got behind 2010 and the first African tournament, even with the Vuvuzuelas. Australia's 2022 bid has popular backing, and none of those four countries would be favourites to qualify from a group stage, never mind win the thing. Qatar ranked bottom or next to bottom on every rating metric that FIFA judged bids on, and still won. They have a civilian population that could fit inside the Nou Camp, and 8/10 of the stadia are being constructed in the same city, which would have benefitted countries like Brazil, who got stuck building a car park in Manaus because those restrictions were set in stone when they bid.

It was probably a mistake to write "usual snobbery", but Qatar really can't be compared to the other nations you wrote about. South Korea managed to qualify for four World Cups in a row before hosting the tournament, Australia qualified for the last three World Cups and even South Africa qualified for two World Cups in a row. Qatar never, ever qualified for the World Cup. Granted, the others are never favorites to get out of the group stages, but at least they more or less deserve(d) the automatic qualification for said group stages that a host has, in contrast to Qatar.

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Apr 27, 2013

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At least right now, any rule change in football must be approved by a special body in which FIFA has 4 votes, and the representatives of the 4 Home Nations (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) have one vote each. So the Brits can block anything dumb the rest of FIFA can dream up. I don't know how that would work if FIFA were dissolved.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Darth Walrus posted:

Also, Volkswagen is either dead or crippled.

Don't be ridiculous, it's neither of these things.

I really hope they get Platini as well, which seems likely since he was also questioned interviewed.

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Apr 27, 2013

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blowfish posted:

Give this man the job, because the only thing that could possibly make the FIFA clusterfuck even more beautiful is hearing a news anchor say the words "according to a statement by FIFA president Sex Whale."

If I were a football executive, my voting strategy at this point would be to maximise hilarity above everything else.

It's not as if this huge scandal has any effect on the normal business of football. The national league competitions are unaffected, the Copa Libertadores or UEFA Champions League continue to print money, everything is fine except that advertising at the next World Cup may be less profitable. So there would be no harm in going maximum hilarity.

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