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Quick update for those of you who don't know why FIFA is awful and why Sepp Blatter is awful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 10:06 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 06:58 |
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Oh my, it looks like a RICO lawsuit. quote:The US Department of Justice statement names nine Fifa officials and five “corporate executives” who have been indicted for “racketeering conspiracy and corruption”. The statement lists the individuals as: I know it's a US-based suit and that's the zone and all, but lmao at all those Concafaf dudes on the list.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 11:15 |
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Pissflaps posted:What's a 'RICO' lawsuit? A Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO Act) suit. Fine points be here, but the most salient bit is: quote:The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.[1] It's a tool mainly used in mafia and organized crime cases, because the 'bosses' very rarely order anything done face-to-face but use cut-outs. RICO is a pretty strong tool and FIFA should be pretty scared, especially if they've got a high informant.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 11:21 |
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Ahahaha, results of Transparency International and Football Addicts (some kind of football app) opinion poll of 35.000 football fans: Following FIFA World Cup corruption scandals, should Sepp Blatter be standing again for President of FIFA? Do you have confidence in FIFA?
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 12:00 |
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Dr. Tough posted:Please tell me that Qatar and Russia will have the World Cup taken away. That would be so loving funny. The FIFA stooge at their press event said that the Qatar and Russia Cups are still on. But he also said that FIFA was grateful for the FBI's 'intervention' today, as it forms a part of FIFA's larger 'goal to eradicate corruption'. So uhhh However: quote:In a separate move, Swiss authorities opened criminal proceedings over the awarding of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. A statement from the Swiss attorney general said they seized electronic data from Fifa’s headquarters in Zurich and opened criminal proceedings against individuals on “the suspicion of criminal mismanagement and of money laundering in connection with the allocation of the 2018 and 2022 football World Cups”.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 12:48 |
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:The feds also raided CONCACAF HQ in Miami a couple hours ago. SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 13:30 |
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Morrow posted:I read the headline last night just before I went to bed and was convinced I was hallucinating. Yeah, I think a lot of RICO cases 'encourage' people in the middle of the chain to snitch upwards. Sleep well, Sepp.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 13:46 |
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Freakazoid_ posted:I've been hearing for years about how terrible FIFA is despite having no interest in soccer. Should you wish to learn a lot more: quote:Some of the worst offenses have gone unpunished. On the afternoon of Jan. 12, 2010, an earthquake rocked Haiti, right as the board of the nation’s soccer association was meeting in its Port-au-Prince headquarters. The president, Yves Jean-Bart, escaped lightly injured. As the building collapsed, rubble pinned coach Jean Yves Labaze, who died along with at least 31 others. The next day, when the phones were back up, Blatter called Jean-Bart and pledged help. FIFA said it sent $250,000 in aid to the head of North and Central American soccer at the time, Warner, in Trinidad and Tobago. A contributor from South Korea sent an additional $500,000. Jean-Bart says he got only a fraction of it. At first, “we got a small shipment of rice, but if you count it up it was worth less than $10,000,” he says. Additional assistance, for reopening offices, running matches, and other items, brought the total aid received to just $429,000, he says. quote:For his 1998 campaign tour, Blatter relied on a Qatari named Mohamed bin Hammam, who ran Asia’s soccer confederation. Bin Hammam supplied cash and the use of a private jet for Blatter to crisscross Africa in pursuit of votes. In his book How They Stole the Game, David Yallop writes that cash bundles of $50,000 were handed out to African delegates in Paris before the vote. quote:Before the election in 2002, FIFA’s secretary general, lawyer Michel Zen-Ruffinen, compiled a report alleging abuse of power and mismanagement that was signed by 11 executive committee officers. “FIFA today is run like a dictatorship,” he wrote in the report. “It has been reduced to the Blatter organization.” Among the allegations were unauthorized payments by Blatter from FIFA accounts. All FIFA financial records from 1998 and earlier had vanished, making it impossible for FIFA staff or its KPMG auditors to assess the organization’s true finances, the report said. quote:A group of Europeans persuaded Issa Hayatou, the head of soccer in Africa, to stand against Blatter. At a meeting to discuss FIFA’s finances, the men from the Caribbean moved to put down the mutiny. Blatter backers, including the Caymans’ Webb, spoke up in Blatter’s favor. Boos and jeers rang out as dissenting voices were kept from the podium. A call from the Norwegian soccer association’s general secretary at the time, Karen Espelund, that Blatter’s opponents be heard was ignored. Blatter didn’t intervene, Espelund says. As she recalls it, the support for Blatter became strident. Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi’s son Al-Saadi, wearing a beret, took the stage to add his backing. A day later, Blatter wiped the floor with Hayatou, winning 139 to 56. quote:Less than a month before the election, members of the Caribbean Football Union gathered at a hotel in Trinidad to hear from bin Hammam. After he addressed the group, Warner took the stage and announced there would be gifts from bin Hammam for those in attendance. Later that day, delegates lined up at a hotel room door and entered one at a time. Inside, Caribbean soccer administrators handed each delegate an envelope stuffed with four stacks of $100 bills, each worth $10,000. I could keep on keeping on quoting from that article forever. It's all one giant of insane corruption.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 14:33 |
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BigRed0427 posted:So do we know yet what the Justice Department is looking for exactly or are they just pulling what ever bullshit they can find. I think specifically they're looking at bribery by sports & betting companies related to contract acquisition with FIFA and the different World Cups. The Swiss investigation seems to be more about how the hell Qatar & Russia got the WC nod. And yeah, the destroyed records are much more likely about hiding corrupt payments etc than about hiding insolvency. FIFA made something like 5bn dollars during the last World Cup and has a 1bn+ reserve; they're not broke any time soon.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 16:34 |
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quote:FBI director Comey is asked why it took so long for Fifa to be called out on the carpet. He cites the the complexity of the case in addition to the international component. I'm sooo close
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 16:46 |
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V. Illych L. posted:tbh russia getting the WC isn't that insane imo, though obviously also corrupt well, who knows what you can achieve on a literal pile of corpses per game: quote:Fifa’s sponsors, though, are deemed more reachable. This week has seen the launch of a campaign by the International Trade Union Confederation, Play Fair Qatar and the NewFifaNow group to shame them with the appalling conditions endured by labourers building tournament infrastructure for 2022. “As things stand,” declares Play Fair Qatar, “more than 62 workers will die for each game played during the 2022 tournament.”
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 16:51 |
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Torrannor posted:Of course not, all of Europe is extremely grateful that you guys are taking on FIFA and Blatter. Sadly, we didn't dare/were unable to do it ourselves. I reckon it's only the Americans can do it because their local football federation has no influence whatsoever in Washington. Still and all, it's a positive glimmer from the New World. Which is rare enough to be congratulated.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 18:46 |
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Meanwhile, buildings are still going up in Qatar.
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# ¿ May 28, 2015 09:32 |
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OhYeah posted:
That's just talk, I don't think any EU football association would draw out of the World Cup for this - people have short attention spans and want their football badly.
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# ¿ May 29, 2015 13:04 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 06:58 |
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Lid posted:They are asking for players to play in a potentially dangerous Russia, and then compromise their European playing contracts to instead play in a literal desert because they had to move the games to winter due to a high chance of players literally dying. There are limits to what people are willing to put up with. Yes, those poor uncompensated footballers. Oh wai ...
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# ¿ May 29, 2015 13:13 |