|
So I'm wanting to play an MMO again, but I cant really make a choice, so I'm hoping someone here can help. Also preferably something my girlfriend can play with me after her new rig is up and running that'll allow us to coop a bit. Played WoW/EQ2/Auto Assault (christ)/Guild Wars 1/Planetside 1 + 2, SWG... etc. etc. Could never really settle unless I had a decent guild. Basically, I want to know what goons think here. SWTOR/Guild Wars 2/Archeage/ESO? Something else? Why? I've read the OP's on them, looked at videos etc. Also an active goon guild would be awesome. I'm horribly indecisive and work/band has me left with little free time to dip into one after the other.
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 19:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 4, 2024 02:19 |
|
|
FF14 is currently the golden boy of the MMO HMO subforum, and has a very large goon population. Biggest difficulty is probably trying to get onto Excalibur (which is where the bulk of said population plays); you'll have the best luck trying to create a character early morning US time. You can grab the trial here. My referral code is DFJNEZUT if you want to punch that in. EDIT: Replaced the code with a new one just in case. Technogeek fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 31, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 19:48
|
|
|
Technogeek posted:FF14 is currently the golden boy of the MMO HMO subforum, and has a very large goon population. Biggest difficulty is probably trying to get onto Excalibur (which is where the bulk of said population plays); you'll have the best luck trying to create a character early morning US time. Thanks for the code! I'll wait for a few more replies, but it does seem like the go to here. <3
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 20:01
|
|
|
Of the games you've listed, what was it about each that you liked or hated? That might help narrow down the options a bit.
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 21:27
|
|
|
"Active goon guild" This is a sought after and rare thing. We have guilds set up in most mmos, but it's really about your timing and catching the goonhype wave. Also willingness to goodpost in the thread for that game, generate content and attention for other goons, and being in comms help a ton to keep people playing and attract new players.
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 21:29
|
|
|
Inimicul posted:Of the games you've listed, what was it about each that you liked or hated? That might help narrow down the options a bit. Good idea dude. WoW was easy to get into, had friends playing. Got annoyed with autistic 45 year olds screaming on ventrilo though. EQ2 was nice and expansive, lorey, bit deeper, had a more mature playerbase, I guess. GW1 again was with friends. Did enjoy the PvP. SWG was SWG (pre cu). I'm downloading the FF14 trial right now as I got a call saying I can take tomorrow off because the client I'm supposed to meet changed his flight and I'm ahead of my workload so 
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 21:33
|
|
ChickenWyngz posted:Got annoyed with autistic 45 year olds screaming on ventrilo though. I feel like you may be barking up the wrong tree
|
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 21:51
|
|
|
gw2 is pretty chill but it doesn't have an endgame
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:03
|
|
|
Thunderbro posted:gw2 is pretty chill but it doesn't have an endgame No endgame as in no raiding or no PvP endgame?
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:22
|
|
|
ChickenWyngz posted:No endgame as in no raiding or no PvP endgame? The endgame is cosmetic. And loggin in on Friday night for reset (which is fun!)
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:23
|
|
|
FireWhizzle posted:The endgame is cosmetic. And loggin in on Friday night for reset (which is fun!) I like the art style a good bit more than FF14 
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:25
|
|
|
ChickenWyngz posted:Got annoyed with autistic 45 year olds screaming on ventrilo though. We can also rule out EVE even though it wasn't on your list. Don't let it get on your list.
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:27
|
|
|
Inimicul posted:We can also rule out EVE even though it wasn't on your list. Don't let it get on your list. I actually tried EVE a few times, got a minmatar battlecruiser thingy and a decent corp. Just wasn't for me. I can see how the people who like it love it, though.
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:32
|
|
|
I'll give FF14 my vet. The strongest argument I can make for it is that it has competent designers at the helm who respond quickly to issues, attempt to cater (and largely succeed) to a wide variety of playstyles, and have an extremely consistent content release schedule (a major content patch every 3 months since the game released, with the exception of the lead-up period to the expansion). It's easy to get in to for new players and has a lot of great quality-of-life features (like the Armory System). It also has what is hands-down the best storyline I've seen in an MMO, and while this is an admittedly low bar, it's held my interest throughout and has shown nothing but improvement since the first major storyline patch dropped. It's otherwise very similar to WoW in terms of combat mechanics and gearing/leveling, so if you enjoy that, and don't mind paying a subscription, it seems like a good bet. Also, as far as active goon guilds go, FF14 has two (the first one hit the player cap of 500~ really early on): Please Be Careful and Dragongod Knightkings. There's plans for a third because DGKK is almost (already?) filled up, and this is with frequent Stalinist purges of inactives by The Chairman. There's a huge number of active players in both guilds, so you'll never be at want for company. Vermain fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 31, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 22:47
|
|
|
ChickenWyngz posted:Basically, I want to know what goons think here. SWTOR/Guild Wars 2/Archeage/ESO? Something else? Why? I've read the OP's on them, looked at videos etc. Also an active goon guild would be awesome. SWTOR - Borderline Abandoned Project with very little content updates, Monthly sub format poorly retrofitted into Free to play causing all kinds issues with how you monotize. (I think they still charge you to add hotbars or something) Some of the classes have good storylines(Imp Agent) and is currently being played by people as a Single player game that happens to be multiplayer. GW2 - PvP heavy focus game with a large expansion on its way. Closest thing to a better WoW format for their PvE. Good world design and is still has a big playerbase. I would suggest you start with this even though I loving despise their customer support. Archeage - Korean MMO with Trion as a publisher has bad reputation for dropping the ball with events and changes. Game is interesting with player housing, trade route and sea battle systems but the goon population literally ate itself and the game's endgame content is nearly non-existant until some more rolling updates appear. ESO - IP pushed without much thought into what makes the IP fun. This is not Skyrim Online. They added classes and theme park dynamics to make the game cookie cutter and linar. You get a bit of player freedom by using different weapons and armor but good luck moving some classes out of their role zone without issue. The game is notorious for launching without an endgame so they instead restart your rear end in a "Vet Rank" in the other factions starting zone to replay the entire story of the other factions ... all three of them. Super loving grindy. Design is a mess. EVE - You want no part in this. FF14 - Straight sparkly theme park with detestable goons. This is currently the best you can do for theme park PvE games. Square Enix pulled their heads out of their asses and remade the entire game with effort so now it is good and has an active playerbase with a good patching consistency. TERA - Don't touch this if you want to keep your girlfriend. The game is good action combat mixed with pedophiles and peak scantly clad women sex idols. The Secret World - Game is teetering on death in population but I only mention it because I love it and the storyline is amazing. This is the best writing you will ever get in an MMO that plays like a single player game. Game works well with small groups of friends as you can group with any faction. I only recommend this game if you dig the setting "Lovecraftian Modern Horror". Upcoming Games "Some" of us are looking forward to: Skyforge Black Desert Moonlight Blade The Repopulation
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 23:16
|
|
|
Drinkfist posted:Upcoming Games "Some" of us are looking forward to: Maplestory 2 Tree of Savior 
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 23:28
|
|
|
Drinkfist posted:
couldn't contain myself from laughter
|
|
#
?
May 31, 2015 23:45
|
|
|
dominoeffect posted:couldn't contain myself from laughter This isn't something new when you pile goons in high numbers.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 00:25
|
|
|
Drinkfist posted:This isn't something new when you pile goons in high numbers. FF14 is drama free and has been for a long time  I think it more has to certain games attracting the more socially maladjusted goons.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 01:19
|
|
|
It's called PVP. GW2 and FFXIV both have big and active goon populations and neither has had any drama to speak of. And while GW2 can be mistaken for a PVP game, it's really just a game that treats opposing players as mob npcs.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 01:26
|
|
|
FF14 goons are mostly catboys/ladies, but it's a good game
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 01:40
|
|
|
Are you the type to go heavy deep into endgame content and stick with a game or are you the type to be a MMO tourist, jumping from one launch to another following the goon hype? For the former, FF14 has legs to stay, the run to the level cap is genuinely enjoyable. For the latter, The Repopulation is in early access and the thread looks to be swelling with this being the wierd spergy game of the season.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 01:45
|
|
|
Captain Oblivious posted:FF14 is drama free lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 02:12
|
|
|
Captain Oblivious posted:FF14 is drama free and has been for a long time I don't know they seem pretty wound up and hostile to me. KaneTW posted:No one wants to have anything to do with you ever, so just kindly gently caress off. The Chairman posted:No. Yes. Don't come back. Evil Fluffy posted:Make like Tails and
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 02:19
|
|
|
gw2 is a cool game for laid back dudes and dudettes who just want to chill and have a good time killing dragons/other players.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 02:47
|
|
|
Drinkfist posted:I don't know they seem pretty wound up and hostile to me. Are you the dude who went on big talks about how you wnated to gently caress catgirls every day constantly and then stole a bunch of poo poo out of the bank, before going to impzone and bragging about it and talking about how uptight FF14 goons are??? because I remember when that happened. Edit: Nevermind that was Bonzai Buddy, sorry drinkfist. In my experience the only time FF14 drama happens is when someone decides to get ironically creepy, but I only played for two months and then quit, and that was like a year ago. KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 1, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 03:48
|
|
|
KittyEmpress posted:Are you the dude who went on big talks about how you wnated to gently caress catgirls every day constantly and then stole a bunch of poo poo out of the bank, before going to impzone and bragging about it and talking about how uptight FF14 goons are??? because I remember when that happened. I was the guy that got some disgusting girl goon to lose her poo poo when I was making fun of her. Previous attempts at suicide was brought up during the conversation and it didn't stop me from calling her out on her bullshit. I also bitched out super goons that left the main guild to do raids and kept pulling our geared 50s into their fold making the guild worthless in a dungeon run. Didn't take long for the combined offenses to get me banned from "Please be Careful" in the interest that my hatred was like a wrecking ball to those kids.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 06:43
|
|
|
Drinkfist posted:I was the guy that got some disgusting girl goon to lose her poo poo when I was making fun of her. Previous attempts at suicide was brought up during the conversation and it didn't stop me from calling her out on her bullshit. I also bitched out super goons that left the main guild to do raids and kept pulling our geared 50s into their fold making the guild worthless in a dungeon run. Didn't take long for the combined offenses to get me banned from "Please be Careful" in the interest that my hatred was like a wrecking ball to those kids. Tl;dr you literally created drama where there was none before, got banned, and then there was no drama?  As you yourself have said before Drink, you don't really play MMOs. You've internalized the Trolling Goon myth as a thing to aspire to and in your own words I believe you said you play "Goons the MMO" or something like that. The thing is that's mostly fun in bad games. Nobody wants to put up with that poo poo in good ones. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Jun 1, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 06:59
|
|
|
enjoying antagonizing strangers for no reason is actually really weird and you're probably strange if you purposefully do it
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 07:19
|
|
|
space invader, throne gems, oh dear, the time where dgkk officers were planning on splintering off, people getting buttmad about getting/not getting the personal rooms in the basement of the fc, people getting mad that people in the fc wouldn't carry them through content and the ceaseless unending stream of bullshit and whining that goes on in the sa thread an every linkshell. i could go on. great community, would recommend the sky is blue, grass is green, and the xiv goon guilds have stupid drama all the time. things are only quietish now because people are too busy jacking it to the expansion info
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 07:30
|
|
|
Ffxiv is a lot of fun in a dumb casual sense and 90% of the goons playing are good natured and easy going. The whole "people splitting off and formed their own hardcore group" was irrelevant since FFXIV doesn't cater to that poo poo at all. I'm pretty sure most of that group quit the game anyways because they devoured themselves, that's what those kinds of groups do inherently. I don't remember why everyone told you to gtfo drinky, but I'm sure you did something dumb/mean and you might be an idiot.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 07:35
|
|
|
Velthice posted:people getting mad that people in the fc wouldn't carry them through content mfw people in the fc told me they were waiting for the fc to carry them through hardmode titan instead of joining a group i was trying to make
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 07:44
|
|
|
Velthice posted:space invader, throne gems, oh dear, the time where dgkk officers were planning on splintering off, people getting buttmad about getting/not getting the personal rooms in the basement of the fc, people getting mad that people in the fc wouldn't carry them through content and the ceaseless unending stream of bullshit and whining that goes on in the sa thread an every linkshell. i could go on. great community, would recommend One of the fc officers flipped out at me because I took a bunch of super cheap crafting materials (costing a few hundred gil total) out of the fc vault, and then he lied about me taking other stuff to try to get me booted. That was fun. If you do play FF14 just join a cool linkshell and ignore everything going on in the FCs. FC chat is about what you'd expect when you have hundreds of goons talking at the same time.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 07:57
|
|
|
Fister Roboto posted:One of the fc officers flipped out at me because I took a bunch of super cheap crafting materials (costing a few hundred gil total) out of the fc vault, and then he lied about me taking other stuff to try to get me booted. That was fun. This is probably decent advice.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 08:05
|
|
|
Rexicon1 posted:This is probably decent advice. def. don't get me wrong, i love xiv, but go into it with realistic expectations. there are some cool peeps hanging around but mostly it's goons being goons
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 08:21
|
|
Fister Roboto posted:One of the fc officers flipped out at me because I took a bunch of super cheap crafting materials (costing a few hundred gil total) out of the fc vault, and then he lied about me taking other stuff to try to get me booted. That was fun. The real secret is to join goon linkshells and then join a pubbie FC because if drama happens it's just really funny also the pubbie fc I joined is pretty awesome, we just sit around crafting in our mansion and making anime butt jokes all day
|
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 08:24
|
|
|
Thanks to all of you for the replies. I'll be checking out FF14 and GW2. Much love.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 09:21
|
|
|
There are no good MMOs, so don't play them.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 11:52
|
|
|
The best part of mmos is the broken people who play them make for good laughs
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 21:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 4, 2024 02:19 |
|
|
Wish that were true so MMO HMO was actually funny.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2015 21:30
|
|
