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The last two episodes did set them up as stinging over having spent nearly a decade trying to skate to where the puck is going that they're well aware that yet another big venture isn't necessarily going to work. Despite Joe being correct in it being the next big thing - just no one knows how and even when it will hit in 1995 it still has a long way to get to ubiquity. Keep in mind around 1990 the idea of a web browser hasn't really come about outside of WorldWideWeb (Nexus). I think Donna is racing off to CERN to work this out and give someone VC cash to create the show's version of ViolaWWW or MidasWWW and compete against whatever comes out from Mutiny. Donna's become Joe and she wants to beat Joe at his own game. Everyone's at an interesting situation where they're successes in their own right and have resources backing them so I suspect season 4 will be quite a bidding war. Around that time there were a few other web browsers that stalled owing to poor cross-platform support or no funding. Also there's a hint of them running into another wall and being obliterated by Mosiac and Netscape around 1993 as the NeXT platform wasn't widely adopted or others ran off Unix or Ultrix so Mozilla's cross platforming became the norm.
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Dmitri-9 posted:They must have had pretty strong assurances from AMC to leave that plot thread hanging.
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What is the song that AMC uses for the Halt and Catch fire commercials? It doesn't sound like the credits song.
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Mu Zeta posted:What was the deal with the HAM radio this season? I thought it was gonna be Gordon talking to himself for hours at a time But I think the idea was the start of the season showing how everyone is trying real hard to connect with people in ways that push them away from people they're already near (Ryan leaving Mutiny to work with Joe, etc)
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Mu Zeta posted:What was the deal with the HAM radio this season? It was Gordon not having a purpose in life. He was a hardware guy, but couldn't figure out someone else's hardware because he was so focused on finding a purpose for his own poo poo. His own poo poo was old, tech was moving on and leaving him behind. Cameron looked at his stuff and saw where he was missing the point in 30 seconds. He got schooled, loving finally, and was open to new ideas (his network was only a small part of what WWW would potentially come to be). That's why he was open to WWW in the finale, after he was slapped in the face again that his own piddling network that he was an admin of was a single node on what they realized would be the whole internet.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Mu Zeta posted:What was the deal with the HAM radio this season? i thought they were getting into the whole older generations version of online chatting, HAM being the first way people could really talk to one another over long distances and doing it in such a way that people not involved thought they were looney and wasting their time. Seemed to mirror the storyline of Mutiny building a community around people just going online to talk with each other.
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Capntastic posted:I thought it was gonna be Gordon talking to himself for hours at a time It was and he did. After that they backed off and Gordon was less sick somehow.
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wormil posted:It was and he did. After that they backed off and Gordon was less sick somehow. I must have missed the payoff then. Gordo's illness is a really weak plot device that some episode writers are wise to ignore.
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feedmegin posted:To be pedantic, Ultrix and NeXTSTEP are both Unixes.
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Was Atari still chugging along that well after the NES came out? They were playing Mario before the timeskip so I dunno what Space Bike 4 would even look like
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Capntastic posted:Was Atari still chugging along that well after the NES came out? They were playing Mario before the timeskip so I dunno what Space Bike 4 would even look like The atari 8 bit computers were still going strong at the time.
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Capntastic posted:Was Atari still chugging along that well after the NES came out? They were playing Mario before the timeskip so I dunno what Space Bike 4 would even look like Atari was still in business but their heyday was over. I don't know what their balance sheet looked like but it couldn't have been good.
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https://soundcloud.com/the-watch-podcast/ep-85-the-andy-greenwald-podcast-with-christopher-cantwell-and-christopher-c-rogers - My favorite TV critic's podcast just had a nice sitdown with the 2 Christophers on their choices for S3, it's a great listen. They actually conducted it the day previous to the renewal announcement and they were still really optimistic regardless.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:https://soundcloud.com/the-watch-podcast/ep-85-the-andy-greenwald-podcast-with-christopher-cantwell-and-christopher-c-rogers - My favorite TV critic's podcast just had a nice sitdown with the 2 Christophers on their choices for S3, it's a great listen. They actually conducted it the day previous to the renewal announcement and they were still really optimistic regardless. Thanks for this, will check it out.
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Binging this show like crazy. Currently on 303. Is "every character but Donna is a totally lovely person" the general accepted feeling about this programme? Not a criticism at all, I love the show, but man.....every character but Donna is a totally lovely person. (well, Bos is cool too)
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Escobarbarian posted:Binging this show like crazy. Currently on 303. Is "every character but Donna is a totally lovely person" the general accepted feeling about this programme? Not a criticism at all, I love the show, but man.....every character but Donna is a totally lovely person. (well, Bos is cool too) They are just complicated  And it actually seems to me like Donna is the one who has the least amount of humanity by the season 3 finale.
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Capntastic posted:Was Atari still chugging along that well after the NES came out? They were playing Mario before the timeskip so I dunno what Space Bike 4 would even look like Look up the Atari ST. I had one as a teenager 
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Luvcow posted:They are just complicated He just started season 3 dude
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Mu Zeta posted:He just started season 3 dude Sorry, thought that was too broad and ambiguous to be a spoiler
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Finished 307 and drat. I was mostly with Donna but Cameron's speech during the blowout swayed me to her side. This season has been a notable improvement - I remember reading there was some huge writer turnover or something?
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Finished the season. Definitely turned around on Donna a little by the end but it's also hard not to see it as her getting hers after years of mothering the rest of the cast. Absolutely loved the last two episodes of s3 and they set up the final season beautifully. Very glad I picked this show up.
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It was hard to watch Gordon miss all the signals in that dinner and wine scene with Donna. Donna was lovely to offer to toss Joe under the bus, but Cameron needs to chill out too. I wonder if Donna is gonna burn bridges or if they will all end up back together eventually. I'm guessing Gordon's health is going to deteriorate and that is gong to bring them all together. ApexAftermath fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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I just hope that sometime between now and when they start working on S4 they realize how unsympathetic Cameron is. That was a really, really great season (although for nostalgia reasons S1 is still my favorite). But the writers clearly still have this idea about Cameron's character that is just incongruent for me. I am waiting for the resolution of her character arc to be "oh, I'm a petulant, stubborn child who has no right to have gotten this far, I should grow the gently caress up" and instead she finishes every season on top by virtue of her supposed genius, which I feel the show hasn't earned yet, even after 3 seasons. Or maybe that's my bias as someone who has actually worked in this industry for a couple decades. I don't know. But its odd that in real life, I would hate Joe but I get him. I would love Gordon, and I get him. I would kill to work with someone like Donna or Boz. But Cameron bugs the poo poo out of me, feels completely manufactured and poorly drawn, and yet she is consistently the hero of this show. Jake Armitage fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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ApexAftermath posted:It was hard to watch Gordon miss all the signals in that dinner and wine scene with Donna. To be fair he has severe brain damage.
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I enjoyed where Cameron ended up at the end of this season, honestly. She's matured since being in Japan. Donna did the right thing at the time, Cameron did the right thing at a later time, it sucks that both of them hurt the other in the process.
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Jake Armitage posted:I just hope that sometime between now and when they start working on S4 they realize how unsympathetic Cameron is. That was a really, really great season (although for nostalgia reasons S1 is still my favorite). But the writers clearly still have this idea about Cameron's character that is just incongruent for me. I completely agree with this. The biggest problem with seasons 2/3 is how completely enamoured the writers seem to be with Cameron. I feel like we're meant to inherently accept her view as right without the show having to do much to back it up. One example of this is during the going public argument in ep 7, she makes the argument that Mutiny will lose what makes it a community if it doesn't make fixes, and it seems clear the show prioritises her viewpoint over the others, by the way the scene is framed as "everyone fucks Cameron over". But, while her argument is sound, the only actual evidence we see for the claims she makes in the show is one 30 second scene, I think even from the same episode, where she has an unsuccessful interaction in the chatroom. I like the character overall, and Davis rocks, but we need a lil more self-awareness from her to close out her story imo.
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Jake Armitage posted:...she [Cameron] is consistently the hero of this show. Escobarbarian posted:I feel like we're meant to inherently accept her view as right I have never felt that way. Cameron is a petulant woman-child and the show portrays her that way. She's alternately confrontational and passive aggressive and just like in real life that is sometimes mistaken for dominance. Jake Armitage posted:I just hope ... they realize how unsympathetic Cameron is. I wouldn't assume they want her sympathetic. All sympathetic characters all the time is bland writing. Look at Donna, first season everyone loved her but now she's a backstabber and corporate sell out. Season one everyone loved Joe. Season two everyone hated Joe but he's been on the path to redemption. Boz is cool now, but he started out as an rear end in a top hat who had Joe beaten to teach him a lesson. The characters go through cycles although Cameron less so, maybe next season will be her turn and you'll get your wish but someone else, probably Donna, will be portrayed poorly.
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Dmitri-9 posted:For me they kind of left it in a weird place. I thought it was going to be one of those "we don't know if we get another season so this could also work as the series finale" episodes. When Donna's storyline wrapped up with her storming off to Switzerland I was kind of confused. Is she going to pull the rug out from under team Cameron somehow or is she making overtures for the project even though she wont be working with Cameron? I might be too stupid for this show. isk posted:I interpreted it as the former. Weirdly, I figured the latter. Great finale. Great show.
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I don't know how Donna's last scene could be seen as anything other than a woman completely fueled by anger and spite.
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GobiasIndustries posted:I don't know how Donna's last scene could be seen as anything other than a woman completely fueled by anger and spite. Resolve?
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Resolve? Resolve to destroy Cameron, maybe. She had just finished being told she was out of the deal and was basically told she was a terrible person, probably the last thing on her mind was 'how can I help these people'.
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She's on good terms with Scoot McNairy. She's not gonna gently caress him over. She'll just fund a competitor but it's not like she'll directly sabotage them.
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We're not supposed to like Cameron right? If we are than the writers have done a terrible job at making her remotely likeable. I feel like they want me to be rooting for Cameron but its the exact opposite. If Donna has to destroy Gordon and Joe in the process of destroying Cameron I wont be completely happy but I'll accept it.
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