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Joementum posted:It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. Rand Paul, eager for the days of Lochner-era misery.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:34
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Fried Chicken posted:So hey while you all are focusing on NATO and Eastern Europe, remember that in the last few months We beat the Japanese and are currently best allies with real China, pretty sure we could beat fake China it we ever wanted 500 million folks to die.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:35
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I guess I thought we were talking about with guns.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:35
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. Until I can sell my gay-married self into slavery, I won't truly feel free.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:35
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Munkeymon posted:Am I the only one reading about a machine gun dogfight in a modern fighter and thinking 'haha no way you ever get that close, ace'? No, you're not the only one - but you'd also be wrong. Regardless of how much people think that combat is going to become all-BVR, various mitigating factors, identification difficulties (not to mention stealth), and human reaction times all wind up creating dogfight situations despite engineers' best efforts. That's not to say that it hasn't become less common over time, but it still happens.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:36
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Samurai Sanders posted:Some rights are indeed more important than others, yes. Marriage is way up there, making money should be way further down. I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. An individual really has no "right" for the government to issue these, just that if they are issued, they are issued fairly.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:39
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. Says guy who did not have to sign a contract for wages
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Jul 1, 2015 00:39
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Boon posted:I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. As opposed to every other thing the government does.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:40
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Boon posted:I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. An individual really has no "right" for the government to issue these, just that if they are issued, they are issued fairly. You liscence marriage because its a great source of some gently caress'n money. If you want to stop gay marriage in Bumfuck, AL, what you do is, you make each liscence cost $10k unless its sponsored by an 'approved certifying organization'. Nobody cares if gays get married when they're willing to pay 10k to Jimbob's beer belly fund
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Jul 1, 2015 00:40
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Boon posted:I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. And that it makes divorces way easier and almost makes unions where one person earns most or all of the money far less easily exploitative. And custody issues. And so on. I get the pure idealist idea behind "gently caress government recognizing marriage" but when it comes to practicality, I'd rather that if someone was a stay-at-home mom for 15 years while the husband earned all the money and bought all the stuff, he couldn't just evict her rear end and pay zero alimony on a whim.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:44
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Boon posted:I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. An individual really has no "right" for the government to issue these, just that if they are issued, they are issued fairly. Why did this opinion gain prevalence as the gay marriage legalization got underway? Hmmmmmmmmm...
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Jul 1, 2015 00:46
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Job Truniht posted:in an F-35 Maverick noooooooooo. 
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Jul 1, 2015 00:47
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I think you guys are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm stating that Samurai Sanders phrasing implies that some rights are more important than others, which I don't believe to be true.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:51
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. Someone's proud of his summer reading assignment.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:52
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DemeaninDemon posted:Maverick noooooooooo. I demand a scene where he punches out after an engine failure or getting hit and as he's parachuting down, he cuts the chute free and lands on top of an Iranian F-14 cockpit and takes that poo poo over.
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Jul 1, 2015 00:52
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Job Truniht posted:in an F-35 Well flying was never as crucial to top gun as volleyball was so this should still work out okay.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:10
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mlmp08 posted:I demand a scene where he punches out after an engine failure or getting hit and as he's parachuting down, he cuts the chute free and lands on top of an Iranian F-14 cockpit and takes that poo poo over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4JPVXyAJuo
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Jul 1, 2015 01:13
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. Yes Rand - we should have 'Human Resources' Laws with clear wage rules for everyone. What else are you suggesting? That it is right to have people sign contracts where they work in direct exchange for food and shelter?
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Jul 1, 2015 01:27
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McDowell posted:Yes Rand - we should have 'Human Resources' Laws with clear wage rules for everyone. I wish my workplace provided food and shelter in addition to a salary.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:32
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My Imaginary GF posted:I wish my workplace provided food and shelter in addition to a salary. Oh, MIGF. Let me tell you about Libertarianism....
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Jul 1, 2015 01:33
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Joementum posted:Oh, MIGF. Let me tell you about Libertarianism.... ...they want me to be able to pay to gently caress a horse, or is that just a Newt thing?
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Jul 1, 2015 01:39
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Boon posted:I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with your statement as it's made. There is really no reason for the government to even license marriage except that it helps to maintain the structure of society. An individual really has no "right" for the government to issue these, just that if they are issued, they are issued fairly. The reason is that the government regulates the legal and financial issues that come with it. My Imaginary GF posted:I wish my workplace provided food and shelter in addition to a salary. Mine does several months out of the year. It's pretty sweet.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:40
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My Imaginary GF posted:I wish my workplace provided food and shelter in addition to a salary. How old are you, roughly? I may have an opportunity for you.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:45
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DemeaninDemon posted:How old are you, roughly? I may have an opportunity for you. Oh oh. Military recruiter spotted.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:49
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Vahakyla posted:There were multiple fights between fighter craft in Kosovo in 1999. He said "involving the United States", not "between some penny ante joke squads". The United States basically hasn't been in a position where they've had anything other than total air dominance for over forty years.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:51
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DemeaninDemon posted:How old are you, roughly? I may have an opportunity for you. I'm not that stupid, Jessie Jackson Jr
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Jul 1, 2015 01:57
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Mister Macys posted:He said "involving the United States", not "between some penny ante joke squads". US Fighters fought during Kosovo in 1999. Ultimately though, stuff involving modern craft is relevant, too, considering US Allies and buyers of its fighters. Israeli planes also have been shooty shooty for god knows how many times but they are all hush hush.
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Jul 1, 2015 01:57
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Vahakyla posted:US Fighters fought during Kosovo in 1999. I stand corrected then. I thought the West's involvement in the Kosovo/Bosnia/Croatia/Serbia break up was a post war peacekeeping thing. 
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Jul 1, 2015 02:02
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "Do consenting adults have a right to contract with other consenting adults? Supporters of the Supreme Court’s decision argue yes but they argue no when it comes to economic liberties, like contracts regarding wages. It seems some rights are more equal than others." ~ Rand Paul. What kernel of truth does this vague strawman hold? Is it a shot at organized labor? Raising the minimum wage? Talk about false equivalency. Maybe we could point out the disparity in bargaining power between the worker and the employer? It's actually barbaric that there are industries with no collective bargaining. If you don't support one or the other, you are supporting the "rich get richer" school of economics.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:06
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My Imaginary GF posted:I'm not that stupid, Jessie Jackson Jr Hey just looking out for the best interests of Freedom.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:12
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Joementum posted:The US and Cuba are going to jointly announce the opening of embassies tomorrow. Good lord, these past few weeks have been nuts. Kind of amazed there haven't been any mass suicides over at Breitbart or WND.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:17
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DemeaninDemon posted:Hey just looking out for the best interests of Freedom. Despite what you may have heard, the unmedicated interests of your bipolar disorder are not the interests of Freedom.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:21
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In regards to the public Union court case, I thought that there was a way to specify that your union dues do not go to political contributions. Would that ruling apply here already?
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Jul 1, 2015 02:22
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Sir Tonk posted:Good lord, these past few weeks have been nuts. Kind of amazed there haven't been any mass suicides over at Breitbart or WND. On a different note, I'm fairly amazed that there hasn't been a shooting spree against homosexuals yet.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:23
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Mister Macys posted:He said "involving the United States", not "between some penny ante joke squads". We still gotta sell export versions to the penny ante joke squad.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:23
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Mister Macys posted:I stand corrected then. I thought the West's involvement in the Kosovo/Bosnia/Croatia/Serbia break up was a post war peacekeeping thing. It was. Enforcement of the UN no-fly zone. Peacekeepers are often also enforcing said peace through hostile action.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:25
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Cythereal posted:On a different note, I'm fairly amazed that there hasn't been a shooting spree against homosexuals yet. Too busy burning down churches and the anti-gary crowd isn't really the militant type anyway. They'd rather just deny rights than keep killing them like it's the 80's again.
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Jul 1, 2015 02:25
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I think in these dark times like these...we need to look at the art of John McNaughton Specifically Obamanation One Nation Under God  
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Jul 1, 2015 02:32
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Sir Tonk posted:Too busy burning down churches and the anti-gary crowd isn't really the militant type anyway. They'd rather just deny rights than keep killing them like it's the 80's again. I don't know what conservatives have against gary, i mean he's a slacker but he means well Really this is just going to hurt their polling numbers.
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