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Jun 7, 2012

froward posted:

the official keepass download links lead to sourceforge, which ublock blocks, because, ya know, malware.

lol

Ninite offers a copy of it through its silent download, so you can get it that way. It does this for a few programs that are usually only available through sourceforge.

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Jun 7, 2012

ThermoPhysical posted:

Yes, I read it twice before asking and it says nothing about butt-based AVs or if they're even worth anything. Basically it starts out how antivirus programs are outdated and not worth buying and then some settings for traditional AVs that arent butt-based.

I wanted to know if anyone's tried Panda and seeing if it's worth it. Maybe put something about butt-based AVs in the OP?

Anti-virus in general is security theater these days. Whether the heavy lifting is done on the PC itself or some server farm is irrelevant.

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Jun 7, 2012
The only reason I'm okay with my shop selling anti virus is because it provides peace of mind and return customers, along with the bill for buying and installing the AV.

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Jun 7, 2012

The Meat Dimension posted:

Hello thread there's a dude who called my mother one time about her computer security and now he can remote into her computer. Wrote him out a personal check and sent it in the mail. Apparently he has some kind of "security" thing with Microsoft. This sounds sketch as gently caress right?

Am I in the right place?

That is 100% a scam. I've seen this happen before several times.

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Jun 7, 2012
Hey OSI Bean Dip, I faintly remember you writing a post about how you used to work in an anti-virus firm and how anti-virus is just trash. Do you know where I could find that? If you never wrote this, could you write it? My boss refuses to accept that anti-virus is dead and hearing from an expert might change his opinion.

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Jun 7, 2012

OSI bean dip posted:

Was it this post?


I should add that almost all endpoint software is really garbage as they tend to just be different shades of poo poo.

Thanks! I felt like you wrote a post that specifically mentioned your time working at an AV firm but I couldn't find it. Oh well, in any case that's going to help out big time.

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Jun 7, 2012

spankmeister posted:

Question is do you still need it to deal with the low hanging fruit? And depending on your environment and user base the answer may still be yes.

sure, but MSE/Defender is good enough for everybody in that department

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Jun 7, 2012
When you upgrade you'll hit a screen telling you to "use express settings." From there you can specify you want to customize your settings, and you can turn off the tracking stuff from there.

The November update to Windows 10 is essentially Service Pack 1 in all but name and it looks like Microsoft's committed to keeping the OS more current going forward, so get on the ship now before August 2016.

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Jun 7, 2012

NeoSeeker posted:

What would be the best way to reformat to get rid of viruses/spyware on Windows 8.1? I boot from an SSD and also have an HDD for storage, both internal. I also have no idea when I got infected.

Refresh This PC should be good enough for garden variety poo poo. Access it by holding down the shift key while clicking restart in the shutdown menu. Run malwarebytes and adwcleaner beforehand in safe mode (also accessible by shift-clicking restart) to make sure files left over from the process aren't infected. Of course, that's not going to catch everything, but it should be good enough. If the risk of possible re-infection is too greater in your mind than the loss of your data, then Reset This PC (again, shift-click) will restore to factory conditions.

If you want to be extra careful, you'll want to erase the drives completely using disk kill software like Dan's Boot and Nuke. Don't worry about doing DoD washes, a simple single-pass writing all zeroes is good enough to kill any malware that sits outside the file system somehow.

I'm not certain if DBAN or similar drive wiping techniques have adverse effects on SSDs. I heard they do once from someone but they mightve been talking out their rear end.

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Jun 7, 2012

SMDFTB posted:

So what to do if my computer didn't come with an install disk? All I have is the Windows key.

You can grab install media straight from Microsoft here if you give them the key.

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Jun 7, 2012

Rooney McNibnug posted:

Just a few more things to consider:

- make sure UAC settings are at highest level

- consider installing EMET: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2458544

- set Flash browser settings to "click-to-play". Better yet, straight up uninstall Flash

If you're using Chrome, keep in mind that Chrome has its own sandboxed version of Flash, you won't find it in appwiz.cpl. Navigate to chrome://plugins in the omnibar and you'll find where you can disable Flash from ever running.

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Jun 7, 2012

Whizbang posted:

Disconnect's blocking lists are already part of uBlock Origin.

I was under the impression it did some other things too. Is uBlock Origin just a superset of Disconnect then?

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Jun 7, 2012

OSI bean dip posted:

If you still require Flash for video, stop watching porn.

Don't kinkshame :colbert:

Khablam posted:

Go to chrome://plugins/ (in Chrome, obviously) and disable flash. You'll find the majority of sites that were telling you to enable flash now silently roll over to HTML5. If you for-real need flash, you can simply turn it on.

Actually, click-to-play might be the smarter choice. In Chrome, go to Settings, click "Show advanced settings...", and scroll down a bit until you see the Privacy section. Click on "Content settings..." From there, scroll down until you see the Plugins section. You'll have the option to "Let me choose when to run plugin content." Here, you'll get the best of both worlds: Flash will never run unless you explicitly tell it to, and you'll still have it for when you run into a site that requires it, and even then you can enable Flash on a per-app basis (e.g. you can enable a video player without enabling an ad).

Segmentation Fault fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 7, 2016

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Jun 7, 2012

Khablam posted:

The problem with going click-to-play is that every site that can be flash or HTML5 will prompt you to use flash. If you just disable it, the vast vast majority of all those sites you were going click-to-play on will just use HTML5 instead. I haven't needed to turn the plugin back on in weeks.

Word? I haven't had this happen to me, Youtube and etc. just give me HTML5 players.

Samizdata posted:

Yeah, well, the Defender detection rate has been shown to be not very good, so...

Says who?

Samizdata posted:

I will stick with what has worked for me. I don't expect perfect software of any type, not do I rely on it solely as my only line of defense, so, yeah.

You're correct that you shouldn't rely on it as your only line of defense, but is your anti-virus even working for you? What is it finding? Is its service a net gain considering the many vulnerabilities antivirus introduces into your machine, as OSI Bean Dip references?

Samizdata posted:

Also, as far as expertise goes, I think it makes more sense to stick with a company that specializes in AV as opposed to it being yet another in a line of products.



I am the pusher robot


Samizdata posted:

Seriously? They can't even make Office worth a crap. And, why do I have to reboot after Office updates anyway?

lol

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Jun 7, 2012

Bisse posted:

Looks like the windows license key doesn't support it. It's tied to Asus so only Asus Approved Shenanigans are allowed such as restoring from an earlier restore point, which worked for about 3 seconds before the chinese garbage-ware woke up from hibernation. So I would need to make it happen without a license key, not that that's not possible but I'll see if I can avoid it first.

Doing this is an excuse not to go christmas shopping in hell-on-earth outlet stores.

Safe mode doesn't work, and they don't have the recovery media? What model laptop is this? If the key is in the BIOS you might be able to get recovery media from Asus for free or a pittance, and from there just flatten and reinstall.

Segmentation Fault fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 18, 2016

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Jun 7, 2012

Bisse posted:

The Windows key is on the back of the laptop. There is no recovery media because I don't know why there just isn't. Safe mode doesn't work because somehow the garbage-ware is launching anyway..!

I'm gonna give the two options posted above a try, if they don't completely and immediately fix the issues i'm gonna blow this thing out and start fresh with Win10, if the license key doesn't work well hell then I guess my nephew is going to get introduced to the wonderful world of Linux.

Oh! If you have the key you're good to go. Go here, plug that key in, and download the installation ISO. From there you can burn it to a DVD or create an image on a USB stick and use that to flatten and reinstall. If there's stuff that's important pull it off with a Linux liveCD/liveUSB.

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Jun 7, 2012

OSI bean dip posted:

I would never ever trust that computer. If you can find a way to flatten this, you should do so.

:agreed:

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Jun 7, 2012

Volmarias posted:

In the subject of the sperg's guide to privacy on Windows , is there a nice guide for end users that has "not Mossad" as the adversary instead of this guy's screed?

I like Decent Security's list, they explain why they perform every action they do and it all makes sense. Some of what's in the guide you linked is good information but there's a lot of cargo cult stuff and straight-up FUD w/r/t the Microsoft telemetry. If someone tells you to run a utility to remove the telemetry, don't do it.

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Jun 7, 2012

OSI bean dip posted:

He goes out of his way to "lock down" Windows because he mistrusts Microsoft when he could just install Linux or some other open source operating system. Personally you are better off guarding yourself against theft than state actors but this concept go over the heads of people like that author.

I'll see what I can do to find a resource but if someone else does find something do share.

This too, if you're going to spend this much time tweaking Windows you're better off just running FreeBSD.

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Jun 7, 2012

babypolis posted:

I did something very stupid and now my computer has some nasty malware/virus I cant get rid off. It started out pretty nasty with randomly installing poo poo and taking over chrome. A system restore fixed most of the issues but I keep getting a bunch of popups and no antivirus or antimalware software has been able to completely remove it. Is it time for a full system restore?

Flatten and reinstall.

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