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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
Post your favourite crap 90s or earlier computer graphics virtual reality movie films.

Before CG animators were allowed to leave their basements, they used the technology to see what tits might look like. (SFW)

We may laugh now, but rotating cubes were notoriously difficult to animate in 1990. CONTAINS FLASHING IMAGES.

Actually by the same people as above, after they found the 'Generate Fractal Landscape' option in the Effects menu.

A 1985 simulation of what your head would look like if it were a pillowcase stuffed with rocks.

All the CGI scenes in The Lawnmower Man

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Haruharuharuko posted:

Reboot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCi9LNRTtg
Probably the single biggest reason I entered IT.

This was on when I was 12, and was the only thing that I'd wear my glasses for, so I could see the awesome graphics.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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Tuxedo Ted posted:

Dammit, I wanted to post the Air Force One scene. It was so bad, even when it was new.

Well, theres always things that looked good when they were new, like this:


Everyone go re-watch the first Toy Story when you have time, just to see how it holds up almost two decades later. You may be pleasantly surprised!

Toy Story still holds up, thanks to its incredible character animation and art direction.

Its proof of concept, on the other hand

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Edmond Dantes posted:

Air Force One's crash landing has stayed with me through the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4i8UYUpAKQ

Oh lord, I know people who used to make scale models for movies and bemoaned the growth of CGI. Imagine losing your livelihood to THAT.

Fyadophobic posted:

Here's my contribution, quaint in its enthusiasm but still holds up pretty good all things considered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOUYSLStGak

My favourite things are dinosaurs and environment mapping.


loving awesome.


Reminded me of The Langoliers.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Chocolate? Great, we don't have to texture anything!

Sic Semper Goon posted:

"The World's First Digital Supergroup", indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKoU58ItTOs

I had trouble dating this, because the CGI is is 1990 but the content isn't. It's from 1998 - two years after Toy Story. No excuse.

Thinky Whale posted:

Suikoden II, for some reason, used some of its like 7 seconds of CGI on introing a random boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yCqLQg1Ohc

I bet it took twice that to load on an actual system.

Nebalebadingdong posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i1v2bJykuE

I found this as a kid by randomly cruising around with our satellite dish. It was....strange

When the creepy dog comes on, his hands move through his body.

This looks like a graphics artist fell into a coma in 1996, and woke up in 2008 with an upgraded computer.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

khwarezm posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1U0qvtQnE8
I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE, AND I BRING YOU...


Prodigy were pretty good at crap CGI


I wonder how many hundreds of dollars it would have cost to fix the camera moving through solid objects.

Edit: Looks like the Fire and One Love videos were done by the same people.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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Laserjet 4P posted:

this poo poo is vaporwave af

http://youtu.be/Vy7KGkANHDA

X-MIX. A staple of weekend MTV at 3 AM.

Thank you for bringing this into my life.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Jetfire posted:

Definitely not crap: Short Circuitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScvIbcNV38k

He's STYRO

STYRO the DOG~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMBnD-eT4CA

These were part of a series called Imaginaria that played during the commercials on YTV in Canada. They had basically no thematic connection to anything else on the channel and it was always a trip to see them.

The first one reminded me a lot of a video I can't find. It was music made entirely from falling and bouncing objects, e.g. a ball or several balls would drop into the scene and bounce of an upright object, then to another, and so on, each object making a noise as it did.

Styro the dog is quite well stylised for the time. It's actually visually fun, like a cartoon, which is quite impressive of the time (93 to 96 I'm told).

ozza posted:

The intro to Kingdom O' Magic was legit the most mesmerising thing I had ever seen when I was 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB6qPSMeWNc

That was like watching a Gary's Mod animation but from the 90s.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
Accidental post.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Let's not forget This loving Thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DzOXD_91o

Made by ILM. In 1997. Four years after Jurassic Park.

Jesus Christ, I avoided Star Wars cos I hadn't realised the remakes were pre 2000. Jabba is even worse than I remember. He looks like something out of Doom 3.

Edit: I'm blown away by how terrible this is. There was a live actor there, so why does it still look like Han it's starring into space? Why is Han always standing so close to Jabba? Why is Han gesturing outside Jabba's field of vision. And treading on his tail? Jeeeesus.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Vanderdeath posted:

Because it's from a cut scene when Jabba the Hutt was just a human crime lord and trafficker. Harrison Ford was talking to a much shorter actor and for some reason Lucas decided to reintroduce this in the film despite the fact that Jabba became a huge-rear end alien.

Here's the original cut draft of that scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sf4eb9l__4

Oh yeah, I've seen the original clip. I was just astounded that the animators completely failed to use the original actor as a cue for where Han was looking, or generally interacting with Jabba.

Actually I'm more astounded that a relatively pointless scene was put back in, just for something for ILM to do.

Nostrum posted:

The 2004 version looks just as lovely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR0b57coZFk


Didn't realise they'd re-done it either. It would be fun to hold some sort of animator competition to see if anyone can actually make the scene look half decent.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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cubicle gangster posted:

This holds up incredibly well for 1985. took a decade for anyone to match it and even the 2004 version of that star wars clip looks crap.

I think this works because the concept was so well matched to the graphical capability of the time. If you have no control over the material's behaviour to light, and every surface looks like it's made of opaque glass, then an opaque glass character is going to look reasonably convincing.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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I love how some early CGI uses the pretence of being shot at night because they hadn't nailed global illumination yet. This scene takes place inside a huge concrete block, impenetrable by the sun, and lit internally only by invisible handheld torches.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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"We need them dancing outside a temple of some sort."
"Here's a model I found. It's from Russia, it's called St Basil's Cathedral, but no one will recognise it."
"Can you make it look like it's made of sand?"
"Yup."

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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You Are A Elf posted:

A demo reel of the company who later went on to produce visual effects for Tron... from the 70s?! :aaa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbjm9TfVMOQ

Some pretty mind blowing stuff here, for the time.

Nice to the see The Utah Teapot make an appearance in this thread. They managed to sneak one into Toy Story, which naturally caused me to nerdgasm.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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This is the best possible use of computers.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
https://youtu.be/T5seU-5U0ms

Believed to be the first ever 3D computer animation.

If you look real closely at the end, the digital guy sheds a tear*. 'What am I? Why has someone made me this way?'

* it's actually a clipped polygon.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Lol, that reminds of the time during the late 90s when they invented motion capture, and suddenly it had to be in everything.

Men in Black theme

This was actually pretty impressive for 1997, but then I supppse it was made off the back of the movies' SFX.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Sleeveless posted:

Early 2d computer animation can be just as interesting/awful as the 3d stuff. Like Scanimate, which was too crappy even for 70s Hanna-Barbera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlHbhOyV6Qo

I've read the wiki a couple of times and still have no idea what's going on. It almost looks like Flash. Never seen anything like it.

2D kids shows today are almost all computer animated, because it's quicker and cheaper than film, and results per man-hour look a hell of a lot better - anyone age 30 and up will remember how terrible the animation on all but Disney and WBs cartoons were, so I find myself wondering why Scanimate wasn't more widely used.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
Ah, OK that kind makes sense. I got confused when the wiki started referring to analogue computers.

So I guess it's like a mega sophisticated Vectrex/analogue oscilloscope - the computer is manipulating the electron beam to produce vectors on the screen, which it can of course rotate and scale freely. Cool stuff.

I imagine doing proper cartoon animation was right pain in the arse in that case, hence it was mostly used in basic presentation style images.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
I wonder if there's some early computer stuff going on there. Scanimate was dead by 1992. I love the mix of styles in there. The main characters have tons of frames, whearas the bad guys are deliberately crude.

This 2D scaling and rotation from times it has no right being in is melting my brain.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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I don't understand, you just posted a photograph of, wait WOAAA.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

Let a preschool kid loose on YouTube and you find all sorts of bizarre genres you'd never thought existed. Amateur 'animations' which are essentially just adults playing with toys. Hours of unwrapping kinder eggs. And these:

https://youtu.be/HuKRvszgNR4

What someone appears to have done is gotten hold of some Frozen character models (most likely from that Kingdom Hearts game, or something), rigged them up, and made them dance to kids songs.

The results are hilariously amateur. I chose the particular clip above because of some unfortunate clipping of Rapunzel's dress about half way through.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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I think you answered your own question.

I don't know why his torso is blurred to poo poo, like it's from the first Unreal game though.

Push a button for lovely 80s transition effects.. Actually quite an interesting clip from Tomorrow's World explaining how those effects were computed. I always figured they were done with a kind of texture map, but it doesn't really work like that.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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It's a well known fact the money on the Bustah video went on Janet's push-up bra.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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This is Peter Rabbit , on Nickelodeon in the US and Ceebeebies in the UK.

The more I watch this the more I'm convinced it's made with a videogame engine. The texture resolution is relatively low, there's no variation in surface reflectivity, there's patchy simulated grass, you can see tessellation in some of the models, etc.

I think it's actually a pretty clever, very cheap way to make cartoons, even if it does look like a PS3 game. Assuming it is made in a game engine, but I'd be surprised if no one had thought of this, given the power of something like the latest Unreal engine.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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GorfZaplen posted:

This music video won the 1993 MTV Video Music Award for Best Visual Effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt87bLX7m_o

When I started this thread I couldn't have imagined it would end up giving me a man crush on Peter Gabriel.

Celery Face posted:

I watched a bit of this as a kid and somehow wasn't terrified.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCKQhVzqXy4

A kiddie ride of one these little turds is sat outside a supermarket near me, and I always wondered what it was from.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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f#a# posted:

Wanted to follow up on this one. Yeah, there's definitely digital production in these clips. Most likely, the production studio was using Antics, the premier animation software before Macromedia hit the big time. Even by the 70s, it had camera control, articulated character animation, and tween/scale controls for everything (if you don't know what tweening is, here you go).

Check out the close-up of the polar bear at 2:12. If you ignore the camera sway, they're probably doing a full-body tween between about seven keyframes of the bear (the head might have been articulated there, it's difficult to tell). In that shot, all the tweens are eased linearly, meaning it's just steady motion from one keyframe to the next. Gives it that kind of uneasy smoothness to the motion. Linear tweens are pretty good for some motion, though. When they're walking through the desert at 1:30, they just place the bear's walk cycle at one end, move and scale it to the other end, and tween all that linearly, and bam, you've got a character walking at a steady pace to the background.

Some of the other characters are obviously a lot more intricate and walk around. For those, you're mostly using traditional frame animation. I'd also venture a guess that Antics didn't have easing methods for tweens back in the day, so you lose out on a lot of versatility there.

For more reading, here are some early publications detailing Antics' functionalities.

Cool stuff. Gonna search for more of this stuff now.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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It's in fitting with the 80s being charmless.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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ALFbrot posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjFjp8Fm6U

The singer is still there, only as a charmingly janky puppet instead of a CGI disaster. The song is 1000 times better. It's atmospheric, not attention-grabbing.

One thing I can't believe they never changed in the special editions is the part where the Twi'lek's boob comes out when she's struggling against Jabba.

Sigh. The original scene is perfect. They sound exactly like you'd expect a band that's played hundreds of rough-as-gently caress space bars to sound.

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
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Double Bill posted:

Your statement is bad and wrong. :colbert:

B5 CGI was really impressive for its time, and the show is still watchable without too much cringing.

My feelings at the time were that CGI was a bold move, and a taste of things to come, but wasn't quite there yet. The models on Star Trek TNG and DS9 looked far better.

It wasn't exactly state of the art for the time either. Their set up was pretty ghetto:

http://www.geek.com/games/cgi-first-introduced-to-tv-in-babylon-5-by-mit-presentor-771051/

quote:

Each episode of the series used an average of 6,000 frames of computer graphic animation from Foundation Imaging. They used 24 Amiga 2000s, 16 of which were dedicated rendering engines. They had 32 megabytes of RAM, a Fusion-40 accelerator and the Toaster. The Amigas were connected via a Novell network and sent data to a 12 gigabyte 486 PC file server.

'The Toaster' is an Amiga editing suite.

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