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r00tn00b posted:The home owners and your wife has requested a no-contact order be placed, you are not to contact them via phone or text until they say otherwise. Okay. Are you going to get a lawyer? Because that, with no paperwork, is really, really weird, if there was no underlying crime you were arrested for. Are you going to get a lawyer?
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Obdicut posted:Okay. Are you going to get a lawyer? Because that, with no paperwork, is really, really weird, if there was no underlying crime you were arrested for. I already said yes earlier in the thread.
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Jun 10, 2015 19:48
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r00tn00b posted:I already said yes earlier in the thread. Okay. Then you really should shut up and just talk to your lawyer and not say anything about this to anyone else, online or in person.
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Jun 10, 2015 19:50
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r00tn00b posted:She has refused to answer my requests to see my children outright which the cops said she cannot do. So then your next response was....?
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Jun 10, 2015 19:56
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GunChicka posted:So then your next response was....? Uhh heh, well I'd uh, really like to see my kids again... That'd be great if ... Uh you could manage it, ya know, if you got the time or whatever . I totally understand though if you want to get me arrested instead.
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Jun 10, 2015 20:36
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I meant to the cop who told him his wife can't deny him access to his kids.
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Jun 10, 2015 20:47
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GunChicka posted:So then your next response was....?
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Jun 10, 2015 20:52
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The op mustve done something really horrible to be so vague and obtuse with details. There is zero chance that the mother of his children would just SUDDENLY go insane and steal his kids. It's also telling that the family hates him.
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Jun 10, 2015 20:54
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a creepy colon posted:The op mustve done something really horrible to be so vague and obtuse with details. There is zero chance that the mother of his children would just SUDDENLY go insane and steal his kids. It's also telling that the family hates him. The family doesn't know me, they have only what my wife has told them. They have only met me once. She has been dealing with depression for over a year and would not let me help her, or seek out help on her own until recently. This isn't sudden, its just the largest freak out she has had.
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Jun 10, 2015 20:58
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r00tn00b posted:The family doesn't know me, they have only what my wife has told them. They have only met me once. god I wish I could edit She has also been cut off from them for longer than I have known her, she only recently started talking to them again.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:00
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r00tn00b posted:The family doesn't know me, they have only what my wife has told them. They have only met me once. Her parents have never met the man their daughter married and father of their grandchildren?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:00
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How old were both of you when you were married?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:00
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GunChicka posted:How old were both of you when you were married? 18 and 21
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Jun 10, 2015 21:01
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r00tn00b posted:The family doesn't know me, they have only what my wife has told them. They have only met me once.  freakout Yeah, that's what this is.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:01
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r00tn00b posted:18 and 21 HAHA well there we go.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:02
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r00tn00b posted:18 and 21 How old were your kids?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:04
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GunChicka posted:How old were your kids? we dint have kids then.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:05
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Why aren't you shutting up and just talking to a lawyer? What do you hope to gain here?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:06
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r00tn00b posted:we dint have kids then. What led to your wife getting back in touch with her family, then deciding to move home?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:08
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Obdicut posted:Why aren't you shutting up and just talking to a lawyer? What do you hope to gain here? Stop trying to kill the best thread on these forums.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:10
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Obdicut posted:Why aren't you shutting up and just talking to a lawyer? What do you hope to gain here? Hey man, your not his dad. Or is this a no contact order.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:10
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GunChicka posted:What led to your wife getting back in touch with her family, then deciding to move home? She wanted to see her half sisters who she hadn't talked to in over 12 years. She got in touch on FB and then we talked about moving closer. Good jobs for me, and Family, more than we had in Ohio.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:10
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Darth123123 posted:Hey man, your not his dad. Or is this a no contact order. What if I am his dad.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:10
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GunChicka posted:What led to your wife getting back in touch with her family, then deciding to move home? So what exactly are you trying to establish with these additional details??? Anything? Cause I'm pretty sure he went over the whole moving to Oregon thing for a fresh start earlier.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:11
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Obdicut posted:What if I am his dad. You did a bad job.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:11
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Wizard of Smart posted:You did a bad job. This made me laugh. thank you Wizard of Smart
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Jun 10, 2015 21:12
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r00tn00b posted:She wanted to see her half sisters who she hadn't talked to in over 12 years. She got in touch on FB and then we talked about moving closer. Good jobs for me, and Family, more than we had in Ohio. When was the other time you met her parents and did you get a sense of their opinion on you? It seems like you are the guy who ran off with their daughter, from their perspective perhaps. Rakthar posted:So what exactly are you trying to establish with these additional details??? Anything? Cause I'm pretty sure he went over the whole moving to Oregon thing for a fresh start earlier. Deep emotional truths. Why are you so put off by probing in the advice forum? Do you still talk to your mother?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:13
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GunChicka posted:Deep emotional truths. Why are you so put off by probing in the advice forum? Do you still talk to your mother? You've asked this guy easily a dozen questions, I'm real curious where you're trying to go with this. Do you have a point at all? Are you trying to figure anything out?
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Jun 10, 2015 21:14
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GunChicka posted:When was the other time you met her parents and did you get a sense of their opinion on you? It seems like you are the guy who ran off with their daughter, from their perspective perhaps. The only time I ever met her mother was when our first child was born, she was here for a day, her mother is not who she wants to see though, they don't have any real relationship she gave up parental rights to my wife when she was 2. Voluntarily to get out of child support payments to her father. longer story. Her father and I were on good terms, He though I was a good influence on his daughter. But he is no longer with us. I had never met her step-father until Saturday.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:15
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Rakthar posted:You've asked this guy easily a dozen questions, I'm real curious where you're trying to go with this. Do you have a point at all? Are you trying to figure anything out? Tbf he's been very elusive on many points. And that's not True to the E in E/n.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:17
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Wizard of Smart posted:You did a bad job. I admit that when I think about him, I say to myself that son, I am disappointed in you.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:19
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Darth123123 posted:Tbf he's been very elusive on many points. And that's not True to the E in E/n. I'm not trying to be elusive, I have been under a lot of stress and now that I have a stable job and place to live, I will try to be more thoughtful in my responses.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:20
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Rakthar posted:You've asked this guy easily a dozen questions, I'm real curious where you're trying to go with this. Do you have a point at all? Are you trying to figure anything out? The dude told a super vague story missing some pretty important details and was asking for some pretty consequential advice. Also now I'm just really curious about the whole thing and I already binged through Bloodlines so need more family drama. My own family is split-up, but amicable and boring.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:21
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r00tn00b posted:18 and 21 Haha well maybe someday you will be able to make a decision for yourself that's not completely asinine
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Jun 10, 2015 21:24
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GunChicka posted:The dude told a super vague story missing some pretty important details and was asking for some pretty consequential advice. Also now I'm just really curious about the whole thing and I already binged through Bloodlines so need more family drama. There's a real difference between trying to understand the situation and this sort of cross examining stuff you're doing where the implicit thing is "I'm going to catch you in a contradiction." You've been calling bullshit on this guy for a some time and he has been providing consistent answers that are more or less in line with what he said originally.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:25
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Rakthar posted:There's a real difference between trying to understand the situation and this sort of cross examining stuff you're doing where the implicit thing is "I'm going to catch you in a contradiction." You've been calling bullshit on this guy for a some time and he has been providing consistent answers that are more or less in line with what he said originally. I don't think the dude is bullshitting and if anything he's clarified the actual circumstances much much better since answering questions.
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OP, according to your story: - The two of you got married very young. - You have only met (some?) of her family, one time. - Your wife has been kind of estranged from her family for a number of years. - You yourself don't have much in the way of a social support structure in Portland. Is all that correct? Because if your wife planned this out, that's just a notch or two below a certain Matt Damon movie. I don't know if I can offer any good advice beyond what's been given, except to take care of yourself. Beyond the "eat/sleep/grooming" stuff, maybe consider joining a club or something so you can have a "normal" thing to do where you aren't consumed with this thing. Reach out to trusted family/friends.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:33
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r00tn00b posted:18 and 21 Seriously can't imagine what it's like to be married at 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, around 25 I can maaaaybe imagine it. Part of this is because I was agressive with my 'selfish rear end in a top hat new adult' phase but a larger part is because everyone is stupid at this age, compared to themselves just a few years later. 21 thinks 18 was stupid, 24 thinks 21 was stupid, etc. Did you guys just take that poo poo out on each other? How old are you now? How old are the kids? r00tn00b posted:The only time I ever met her mother was when our first child was born, she was here for a day, her mother is not who she wants to see though, they don't have any real relationship she gave up parental rights to my wife when she was 2. Voluntarily to get out of child support payments to her father. longer story. Okay that bolded bit? That's what I'm talking about. It comes off as weird. I don't know if it's the 'he is' instead of "he's" or what but you make it sound like the mother ship landed and took him aboard, the way everyone knows it will for everyone someday. Except we don't know that and you're crazy. I'm not trying to be insulting, here, I'm trying to explain as best I can why your answers sometimes seem off.
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Jun 10, 2015 21:38
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GunChicka posted:I don't think the dude is bullshitting and if anything he's clarified the actual circumstances much much better since answering questions. Exactly. I don't know what thread that guy is reading. I did call him on the no contact, as it was pretty serious and germane. Sorry for trying, sideline non-interested posters.
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MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:Seriously can't imagine what it's like to be married at 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, around 25 I can maaaaybe imagine it. Kids are 7 and 3 we had our first shortly after marriage we talked about kids and decided kids early. I wouldn't change that decisions there was nothing to take out on each other. that phrase in bold is used to politely say, he dead.
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