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I think the best thing that this show does that no other piece of film or television has done is they got the Illuminati right. Tyrell Wellick being Junior Illuminati with his Patrick Bateman moments and then moments of actual humanity, his wife with all the weird implications that she's part of an ancient secret society family, and the CEO speaking in weird riddles one minute and then being totally candid the next and then going "honestly, I'm glad he's dead". Just great. It's really tempting, when you have an Illuminati, to just make them evil or just make them weird but this show nails that they're also just human beings, to echo the CEO's words in the finale.
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Acer Pilot posted:Wait, is tyrell's wife part of that org? Maybe I'm reading too much inference into her role since she has (probably deliberate) echoes to the actual historical Illuminati as well as the Robert Anton Wilson/Robert Shea Illuminatus! trilogy where the evil masterminds turned out to be
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Jun 5, 2016 19:48
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Shbobdb posted:I just watched the pilot and it was good. Is the show worth watching or does it flame out hard? It ends up being much better than the pilot gave me reason to believe it would be. And I loved the pilot. So, yeah I'd say it's worth watching if you liked the pilot even a little.
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Jun 7, 2016 03:52
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Based on how Season 1 played out, I think it's safe to assume none of us can predict how nutso season 2 goes. Unless it pulls an Oprhan Black and just shits the bed, which I think is doubtful since in retrospect season 1 of OB gave plenty of hints that it was only gonna get worse as it went along.
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Jul 5, 2016 17:21
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gret posted:If I see one more unskippable 30 second Amazon Prime ad for Mr. Robot on Youtube, I'm going to strangle someone. ...YouTube has ads?
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Jul 5, 2016 17:37
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Spergatory posted:This show is in such a weird position. Its message is aggressively anti capitalist, but it's marketed in the most weirdly capitalist ways you can imagine. It's basically the encapsulation of what a capitalist thinks anti capitalism looks like; a bunch of edgelords trying super hard to look cryptic and cool and failing miserably. I'd say that's a pretty accurate representation of anti-capitalist "hacktivists" honestly. If anything the characters in the show are a lot more interesting and fun to be around than their real life counterparts.
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Jul 5, 2016 18:44
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The way this show has been going I wouldn't be surprised if Tyrell and Elliot turn out to be alternate universe versions of each other, but believing they're literally the same person is insane. This show has already done that once, and the double fake-out is classic Shark Jump level poo poo. This show is better than that. Then again, I thought Orphan Black would never get bad after season 1, so I have been wrong.
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Jul 12, 2016 02:58
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Actually it would be super funny if Tyrell ended up being Elliot's brother and then everyone else major in the show also ends up being one of his family members 
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Jul 12, 2016 03:00
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I... had no idea that was B.D. Wong  The music has been wicked on point this season. Angela listening to "Bull in the Heather" was perfect, and one of the Adderall songs was by, appropriately enough, Holy gently caress
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Aug 2, 2016 05:05
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Since the show's already done "online child porn" and Elliott would likely not give a poo poo about drugs, I think Ray's online business will end up being contract killers - and it will turn out his site was used (possibly by Darlene) to hire the guy who killed Gideon.
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Aug 3, 2016 12:01
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Elliot = jErry Darlene = ELAiNE Angela = GEorge Ray = kRAmer I did it, I solved the show.
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Aug 8, 2016 02:10
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savinhill posted:Did we miss a scene where Ray asked Eliot to be a therapy client right after asking him to do IT work for him? We actually (kinda) did. In the first or second episode, Ray says to him something like "You really don't remember the talk we had last night?" and mentions something IIRC about an "understanding" they had or some such. There is definitely some Mr. Robot/Ray interaction we haven't seen yet.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:06
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She said "Where's the she-devil" or something, which could just refer to his nurse. I think the institution is a big red herring but it's still plausible because of that.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:29
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Elias_Maluco posted:I dont like institution theory because I dont like the idea this show needs a mind blow "fight club like" reveal each season That's the main reason I dislike the theory. The show is good enough without doing it. Having him be in a literal institution, I think, doesn't really add much to the actual story of this season. It would be just a twist for the sake of post-LOST twists. Also, I hope next season is a little less slow-moving. I appreciate it here but it's starting to wear on me. Half the season has been spent with Elliot more or less just rehashing the same "I am Mr. Robot/I am not Mr. Robot" argument that should have been put to rest in episode 1, if not last season. I have faith in the showrunner and writers, though.
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Aug 8, 2016 15:56
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Shoren posted:If Elliot moved back in with his mom then why haven't we seen him interact with her in any meaningful way? She's been established as outspoken and still talks negatively about his father, yet we haven't heard her say anything to Elliot, let alone something personal. His mother doesn't exist and he's living in an empty house.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:10
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Benson Cunningham posted:Elliot is in an institution. Otherwise, he wouldn't have worked with Ray. I've been thinking this whole time that his "inability" to get to a terminal was actually his way of protecting himself and f-society. He doesn't trust Mr. Robot/himself with a terminal. By agreeing to help Ray, he created a loophole; he HAD to be at a terminal to do that. I don't know. This loving show, etc.
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Aug 8, 2016 19:54
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Either way I do feel like this next episode will finally answer that question. I can totally see Elliot saying "What, did you think I was in a mental hospital? I can see you, posting your little theories online."
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Aug 8, 2016 21:03
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I'm relatively certain that before the end of the season Angela will be a True Believer. She already acts as if she is anyway. She's like 95% lizard person at this point.
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Aug 8, 2016 21:38
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NmareBfly posted:Kinda but I don't the the 'us' in-universe is necessarily us-the-TV-viewers. Yeah, it's hard to say. I still don't know what the "attacking the TV camera" was about if he's not literally talking to TV viewers.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:02
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Antti posted:I know you're just saying this is a leitmotif thing but Tunefind (which makes the Mr. Robot experience even better) says it's this. Goddamn, this show.
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Aug 9, 2016 19:41
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drat it, I should be pissed that this episode was almost 100% wheel-spinning with no plot movement but gently caress it, that was incredible. Was ALF voiced by the actual original voice actor? I couldn't tell a difference.
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Aug 11, 2016 13:37
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hatelull posted:The shot of Price in his office was loving with my head with the perspective on that mirrored table. Yeah no poo poo, it seriously freaked me out for like a full minute until I figured out how the illusion worked.
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Aug 11, 2016 22:16
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The best twist this season is that Ray didn't look at the website either and was glad that he got caught.  Redemption!
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Aug 18, 2016 17:22
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I didn't know the app game adventure thing was done by the people that did Oxenfree. Definitely gonna grab it now.
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Aug 21, 2016 17:04
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KilGrey posted:Yeah, this bothered me too. That would take some incredible amounts of compartmentalization to not think about what was being sold on that site. It sure as poo poo isn't black market cupcakes. It read as realistic to me. He says that he "knew" there was Bad poo poo on there, but he couldn't bear to actually look. Note that he lets Elliott go and implies that he absolutely knew that Elliott was going to rat him out when he put him back in the office. "Do what you gotta do" he says. Ray represents the ultimate endpoint of dismantling the system; the market-driven Libertarian dream leads to some dark places. "We let the market decide", he says. Ray is not a monster. People are.
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Aug 21, 2016 17:53
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steakmancer posted:Elliot and Meryl streep's daughter are 100% going to gently caress Didn't she play the deaf girl Jerry dates in Seinfeld? She looks exactly the same. e: never mind, that woman is 50 now. Still looks super similar.
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Aug 21, 2016 18:06
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I wouldn't be entirely surprised if White Rose ends up being more or less a "good guy" of the show. edit: "good person", ok
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Aug 22, 2016 13:08
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muscles like this? posted:Except, you know, murdering all those FBI agents. Good and bad are extremely relative in this show. That's why I put "good guy" in quotes. The main villain of the show (ostensibly) - the head of E Corp - has done, to our knowledge, absolutely nothing that's as bad as what actual CEOs in the real world do every day. And yet he is the face we have of the beast that must be destroyed? I feel like a large part of this show is getting you to re-evaluate what good and evil mean in this particularly modern world we're in. Acting Presidents have ordered attacks that resulted in more unnecessary deaths than the FBI attack. Just saying. edit: Like, Leon straight up assassinated the prison rapists. Did they deserve it? To be honest, yes, as Perry Farrell reminds us "some people should die - that's just uncommon knowledge" but in an abstract legal and moral sense, really, nobody deserves to be murdered illegally - Leon could have simply incapacitated them, right? So we let this butchering go, and probably even cheer for it, but just an episode before we saw a similar butchering and it was a tragedy. Coincidence or am I just high? precision fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Next season's twist will be that Angela is actually Price's daughter somehow. e: poo poo I'm not sure I'm even kidding, then that layers his character because he knowingly killed off his mistress or whatever, maybe to hide her from his wife I should probably stop writing fanfiction now
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Aug 22, 2016 20:39
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Zarlog posted:E Corp = Elliott Corp That occurred to me ages ago as a way too obvious late season swerve.
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Aug 28, 2016 19:50
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Med School posted:This show reminds me so much of Infinite Jest. Having hated Infinite Jest, I'm not seeing the similarities.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:02
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ynohtna posted:fsobriety 
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Aug 31, 2016 00:52
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Krime posted:Was expecting a "Bonsoir, Elliot." At the end there Yeah, mega missed opportunity there.  Maybe Tyrell and his wife are the same person!
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Sep 2, 2016 02:06
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Makeup is doing a great job highlighting the facial similarities between Elliot and Darlene. This episode especially, they truly look like siblings. Still a mega stretch to imagine that either of them are genetically linked to Christian Slater, though.
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Sep 2, 2016 06:32
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Nobody saw the Darlene twist coming because it makes no goddamn sense. It's a complete out-of-the-rear end pull for the show to go "oh yeah, so actually Elliott doesn't realize huge chunks of reality, bee tee dubs" - and a testament to the show's writing that they still made it work.
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Sep 3, 2016 02:28
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Doghouse posted:I'm curious as to what kind of mental illness would cause someone to not recognize their family members. Seems like Elliott is schizophrenic and has multiple personality disorder, at the very least, but I don't think either of those would make him forget who his family members are. Cult programming. Calling it now. e: Of-course it will turn out he programmed himself, Total Recall style
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Sep 5, 2016 00:00
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ApexAftermath posted:Yeah that's just the promo that played after the last episode. I doubt anything from the finale is in that. The finale will be a 2-hour long ALF reboot.
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Sep 7, 2016 02:50
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Tiggum posted:There is some degree of controversy but it's a recognised condition. But it is one of those mental illnesses that people think is cool and would make them seem interesting, so you do get a bunch of people on the internet claiming to have it when they clearly don't. One of the Internet's most broad and terrible offenses is that it's made insanity fashionable
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Sep 11, 2016 04:31
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I think the majority of sociopaths are actually "normal human beings" as defined by their peers. Modern society rewards sociopathic behavior and does almost nothing to prevent sociopathic tendencies. Even modern psychiatry often tells people that it's "healthy" and "natural" to think of themselves over others, because learning psychology or psychiatry doesn't make you immune to anything, much in the same way that being a doctor doesn't stop you from getting cancer. e: I didn't even consider that this post speaks directly to themes of this show, but it totally does. E Corp is a cult of sociopathy, essentially.
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It was super obvious that Elliott had a thing for Angela, but I can't honestly say that I ever saw her reciprocating.
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