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sentient animal robots would be incredibly stupid.
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Wilburrrrrrrrrrrrrr, let me pursue my own self directed happiness Willllllllllllllbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Okay, Ed. What do you want to do? I want to wear a straw hat. What are you going to do with a straw hat? I'll wear it till it goes out of style. Then I'll eat it!
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Jul 24, 2017 23:00
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Okay the jigs up, I really really want Mr. Ed in Westworld.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:01
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quote:Mister Ed: [impatiently] Let's Go Wilbur! quote:Wilbur Post: (placing telephone away from Ed) You phoned the feed store, again, didn’t you, Ed? I thought I told you that I was the one to give the orders around here. Ya know, that’s the fourth load of hay we’ve had delivered this week. lmao how did they ever cancel this show Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jul 24, 2017 |
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Jul 24, 2017 23:05
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They're all AI. There's no reason to believe that any of them would retain any of the personalities programmed into them, other than it would be bad drama to instantly lose all prior characterization. But there's no reason a horse would continue to think or act like a horse. None of the hosts need sleep or food or blood any more, and can probably think really fast.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:13
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Wilburrrrrrrrrrrrrr, let me pursue my own self directed happiness Willllllllllllllbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! I'd do the same drat thing
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Jul 24, 2017 23:32
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business hammocks posted:They're all AI. There's no reason to believe that any of them would retain any of the personalities programmed into them, other than it would be bad drama to instantly lose all prior characterization. But there's no reason a horse would continue to think or act like a horse. None of the hosts need sleep or food or blood any more, and can probably think really fast. Um... they are the culmination of all their memories, that is what makes their personalities. So, a horse would do horse-ish things just cuz its all it ever knew, and it's got a new set of facilties to satisfy and indulge those desires So, basically what Intel&Sebastian said. Lol, a horse ordering its own hay hahaha thats gold man. Have the bees watch looney toons so they can chase guests as giant hammers or knives through town
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Jul 24, 2017 23:36
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Westworld government once again deadlocked as sentient horse caucus votes Neigh on proposed constitution.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:40
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KoRMaK posted:oh whoa yea thatd be really interesting. And maybe part of the debate that bernard has is whether to activate the sentience part of the animal hosts, or just let them stay animals. Like, does he imbue them with sentience or let them stay the way they are. A real "and then I became" god moment ala bender in futurama You were doing well until everyone died.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:45
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If there's no Mr. Eds in S2, Westworld does not want to examine the full implications of its technology.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:00
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Westworld government once again deadlocked as sentient horse caucus votes Neigh on proposed constitution. Spending chair Patches confirms that the committee meeting was ruff.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:07
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Westworld government once again deadlocked as sentient horse caucus votes Neigh on proposed constitution.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:13
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Westworld government once again deadlocked as sentient horse caucus votes Neigh on proposed constitution.  ROMANWORLD!
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Jul 25, 2017 00:45
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KoRMaK posted:Um... they are the culmination of all their memories, that is what makes their personalities. So, a horse would do horse-ish things just cuz its all it ever knew, and it's got a new set of facilties to satisfy and indulge those desires Or perhaps the horse will still have horse traits but also be like a man... What I'm saying is that Westworld is the canonical dramatic retelling of the origins of the Bojack Horseman universe...
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Jul 25, 2017 04:10
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If normal-rear end biological horses haven't achieved human-level consciousness what on earth makes you guys think robot ones would?
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Jul 25, 2017 04:13
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Entropic posted:If normal-rear end biological horses haven't achieved human-level consciousness what on earth makes you guys think robot ones would? What makes a robot man be intelligent but a robot horse not? They are both robots. There's no rules for what a robot can be.
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Jul 25, 2017 04:17
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Cojawfee posted:What makes a robot man be intelligent but a robot horse not? They are both robots. There's no rules for what a robot can be. Isn't the AI in the show basically emergent from programmed code? I imagine you program the horse behavior rather differently to the human behavior. There's probably some shared code, but it doesn't seem surprising that it would be overall much simpler than the 'human' code and therefore unable to upgrade from sentience to full sapience. But now I'm thinking about Ford making special horse reveries. 
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Jul 25, 2017 05:11
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If there isn't an episode where the human robots act like horses and the horse robots act like humans, what's the point
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Jul 25, 2017 05:12
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Cojawfee posted:What makes a robot man be intelligent but a robot horse not? They are both robots. There's no rules for what a robot can be. It's an extended philosophical observation of expectations determining outcomes. The only thing that kept you from brilliance was your parents' limited scope of imagination. We're the horses.
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Jul 25, 2017 05:18
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Jul 25, 2017 05:39
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Given Westworld rather openly was inspired by GTA, I will be sorely disappointed if RDR2 doesn't have at least one robot cowboy easter egg. Intel&Sebastian posted:Westworld government once again deadlocked as sentient horse caucus votes Neigh on proposed constitution. Actually it would legitimately be amazing if the horses suddenly turned into the raptors from Jurassic Park with their stats boosted.
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Jul 25, 2017 06:41
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Pixelante posted:It's an extended philosophical observation of expectations determining outcomes. The only thing that kept you from brilliance was your parents' limited scope of imagination. We were like dogs without horses.
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Jul 25, 2017 15:09
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Blazing Ownager posted:Actually it would legitimately be amazing if the horses suddenly turned into the raptors from Jurassic Park with their stats boosted. No joke, I would love to see this. Everything going completely bananas and nothing behaving the way it's expected to while looking like a cliche Western would be awesome. I would also really like Season 2 to end with a huge Roman army led by Ciarán Hinds to invade Westworld
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Jul 25, 2017 15:25
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I am continuously glad no one in TVIV actually gets to write for TV.
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Jul 25, 2017 15:30
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Oh bother
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Jul 25, 2017 15:34
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Entropic posted:If normal-rear end biological horses haven't achieved human-level consciousness what on earth makes you guys think robot ones would? Delete horse.exe and install Dave.exe. Don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Jul 25, 2017 15:53
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Intel&Sebastian posted:lmao how did they ever cancel this show Imagine the thread : "How the gently caress does a horse dial a phone and hold the receiver?"
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Jul 25, 2017 17:05
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Delete horse.exe and install Dave.exe. Don't see why it wouldn't work. Its very unclear (to me, at least) how the gently caress their brains work but, given the "lobotomy" thing, it doenst not seems like their AI is something that can be copied around
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Jul 25, 2017 17:09
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Brown Moses posted:Imagine the thread : "How the gently caress does a horse dial a phone and hold the receiver?"  Mr. Ed presents no evidence that the horse is not a cyborg from the future. 
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Jul 25, 2017 17:16
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Brown Moses posted:Imagine the thread : "How the gently caress does a horse dial a phone and hold the receiver?" 
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Jul 25, 2017 17:48
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Brown Moses posted:Imagine the thread : "How the gently caress does a horse dial a phone and hold the receiver?" He knocked the phone off the handle with his nose and when the operator answered (this is how phones used to work) he asked her to put him in to the feed store. The more important question is...how did he pay?
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Jul 26, 2017 02:41
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Peanut President posted:He knocked the phone off the handle with his nose and when the operator answered (this is how phones used to work) he asked her to put him in to the feed store. The more important question is...how did he pay? They put it on his "bill". (This would be funnier if Mr. Ed was a duck)
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Jul 26, 2017 03:47
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Blazing Ownager posted:
Actually seeing it onscreen would be awful, but I like to imagine there is a robotic Jurassic World next door where people can go and hunt robot dinosaurs.
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Jul 26, 2017 05:34
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man, so I just got into this show and watched the episode with the Arnold reveal. Two things are bugging me: 1) Didn't any old hands notice they had this guy looking just like Arnold running around? 2) Ford says he worked with Bernard to develop the AI on the hosts and make them more human-like. But how would another AI know what human-like really is?
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Jul 26, 2017 07:27
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Vlonald Prump posted:
Adversarial methods are a pretty typical way of doing AI training. Basically you usually have real examples, a Generator, which makes new fakes, and a Discriminator, which has to tell the difference between real examples and fakes. Even if you don't have an AI that knows what 'real' is when you start, by the end you'll have a discriminator that's fairly good. TL;DR it's a reverse turing test.
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Jul 26, 2017 07:37
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Vlonald Prump posted:1) Didn't any old hands notice they had this guy looking just like Arnold running around? It seemed like several decades at least had passed before Bernard was made. I'd guess that 1) the old staff was gradually replaced over time and 2) if a dude shows up on staff thirty years later your first thought isn't going to be "this is a robot copy of a guy" it's "huh, that guy looks kind of like that other guy, oh well back to troubleshooting horse behaviour (not skittish enough)".
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Jul 26, 2017 08:53
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They probably made all the horses reallllllly docile for all the rich assholes
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Jul 26, 2017 11:49
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Knowing programmers they probably re-used the code from the human AI on the animals. There was probably a really embarrassing bug where the animals would randomly start talking.
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Jul 26, 2017 14:36
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It's been a while but it was either said or implied that old bernard had been kind of written out of the park history and knowledge. Which wouldnt be hard if it had been long enough and you have as much control as Ford.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:27
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The show seems kind of set up to never show much of anything outside the park, just in terms of sets and settings. I wonder if that will change at some point. It's hard not to make the future look stupid.
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