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sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

i really let the OP have it, didn't i

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Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


sellouts posted:

i really let the OP have it, didn't i

Little bit. :shrug:

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

sellouts posted:

It is, but why waste time with people suggesting great locales where he can interact with locals, see history, do something new when all he wants is the chance to eat tripe or drink horchata? Culture is so much more than that. If he's specific in saying it's only about food he'd likely get better results. There's no shame in calling the thread "She wants Mexican all inclusive, I want great local food"

And all inclusive is equally terrible at all things culture. It's made to insulate by design.

A: How the gently caress did you know tripa and horchata is my favorite Mexican food & drink?

B: Even I can't eat for 12 hours straight. You need to do something while digesting. My experience has always been the food is best where there are locals doing their own thing. If I know nothing about a city but want good food I go to districts known for their art or universities.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

hahahaha, it seems to be everyones except mine!

So we were in Cabo over the holidays and my wife is Mexican and made friends with the staff. She begged them to tell us where to get some good Champurrado but all of the places were either closed due to the hurricane or shut down for the holidays. You'd think that would be a cheap thing the resort could have had somewhere. It sucked.

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Eifert Posting posted:

1. Food.
2. More food.

We picked out a place in Playa Del Carmen. This one's for her and we can do a trip more in my wheelhouse next time. Thanks for all the advice, guys.

Did you at least talk her out of the all inclusive? The restaurants are the best thing about Playa.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Did you at least talk her out of the all inclusive? The restaurants are the best thing about Playa.

They don't lock you in the resort, you know. It's possible to leave the all-inclusive and go to a restaurant.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
So, to bring this thread back a bit, I kind of want to do an "all inclusive" style vacation. I've backpacked and toured all around the world the DIY way, but just once I'd like to spend a couple of weeks where I do nothing but amble between the massage table, hot tub, beach, and cigar lounge. Where doesn't really matter so long as it has a nice beach and the digs are nice, though I like to be a budget traveler when I can be. Where do you even start looking for these types of places?

Robbie Fowler
May 31, 2011
http://www.excellenceresorts.com/resorts/excellence-playa-mujeres/

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

You start by setting a budget, really.

The excellence resort above is pretty good. A good friend was just there and had a good time. His goal was to eat a ton and drink even more without too much regard for quality and he really liked it.

Robbie Fowler
May 31, 2011

sellouts posted:

You start by setting a budget, really.

The excellence resort above is pretty good. A good friend was just there and had a good time. His goal was to eat a ton and drink even more without too much regard for quality and he really liked it.

yeah i went there for my honeymoon, was pretty awesome. I've never been to another all inclusive so I have no basis for comparison, but I loved it. Good food, good selection of booze, the employees are all really professional but laid back enough to have a chat. plenty of activities to do. free porn lol

heading back there in november for 9 days.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

Mr. Wiggles posted:

So, to bring this thread back a bit, I kind of want to do an "all inclusive" style vacation. I've backpacked and toured all around the world the DIY way, but just once I'd like to spend a couple of weeks where I do nothing but amble between the massage table, hot tub, beach, and cigar lounge. Where doesn't really matter so long as it has a nice beach and the digs are nice, though I like to be a budget traveler when I can be. Where do you even start looking for these types of places?

One of the fancier places on the beach in Tulum.

Lord Wexia
Sep 27, 2005

Boo zombie apocalypse.
Hooray beer!
My wife and I are having a similar... disagreement about our honeymoon (well now 1 year anniversary) trip. She wants to do one of those Groupon trips to Mexico or the Dominican for like $600 including airfare. I am worried about going and being trapped in a resort with college kids on spring break (we want to go sometime around March 2016).

We are willing to spend up to $3k or so including airfare and ideally we would like to do all-inclusive just for ease. Any suggestion on where to get started on finding a trip we can both agree on?

gtkor
Feb 21, 2011

I'd think you could probably find some places in either like Jamaica or Antigua that could probably make that budget work and would be less likely to be drawing a college age crowd.

Mexico would probably have those places too, but you'd guess those appeal more to the demo you are trying to avoid.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

we booked airfare + all inclusive to cabo for far less than 3k over Christmas last year on pretty short notice. I think it was Secrets Puerto Los Cabos.

It's how I verified that I really don't care for all inclusive but the resort was nice enough and the room was great. It didn't have any college kids.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


sellouts posted:

we booked airfare + all inclusive to cabo for far less than 3k over Christmas last year on pretty short notice. I think it was Secrets Puerto Los Cabos.

It's how I verified that I really don't care for all inclusive but the resort was nice enough and the room was great. It didn't have any college kids.

Yeah, but he's going during peak Spring Break season. Most college kids go home for Christmas, not on a blowout vacation to Cabo.

Frankly if you want to avoid the spring break crowd you're better off going to one of the lesser known islands, though that runs you into the issue of not having readily available all inclusive.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Yeah, but he's going during peak Spring Break season. Most college kids go home for Christmas, not on a blowout vacation to Cabo.

Frankly if you want to avoid the spring break crowd you're better off going to one of the lesser known islands, though that runs you into the issue of not having readily available all inclusive.

Sure. My point was it's still a peak travel period.

I think they'd be better off adjusting the time they're going (and it doesn't have to be December) to improve the quality of property and get the vibe they want. Cheap AI is going to be "spring break" regardless of the time of year from what multiple people have told me.

Scrapez
Feb 27, 2004

My wife and I went to Playa Del Carmen all inclusive last year and a Cabo San Lucas all inclusive this year so I can provide some insight on those two destinations.

First off, both all-inclusives were very inexpensive (Around $1800 total including both of us for flight and stay, unlimited food, drinks, etc). The nice thing about booking a cheaper resort like this is that you can leave the resort and eat at restaurants and do things and not feel like you're wasting that much money.

Playa:
Resort:
We stayed at the Gran Porto Real. The resort was nice though a bit on the smaller side. It did not have any swim up bars which was kind of a let down and the pool area as a whole was just OK. The food was actually very good and the service/staff were excellent. The rooms were fine...we just had a standard room, nothing fancy. Beach here was not good...much of it was washed away but you could walk in either direction 1/4 mile and be on good beach.

Outside of Resort:
Playa/Cancun/Cozumel area is pretty neat with the cultural side of things. There are several different ruin sites that you can tour either through a company or just going yourself. We went and saw Tulum and it was very neat. It was a smaller ruin without the big tall structures. Chichen Itza, or "Chicken Pizza" as our Australian friends described it was apparently very very cool but a long drive from Playa. I thought the ruins were cool but not the coolest thing.

The coolest thing we did was swimming in/touring the cenotes (underground rivers). We did go through a touring company to do it but you could also do it on your own as there are public places to view them. We swam through these underground caves filled with water about 200 feet deep...crystal clear. It was incredible. We then went to a lagoon where an underwater cenote came to the surface and fed into the ocean. This was a mix of salt and fresh water and we snorkeled...some of the best snorkeling I've ever done. It was so calm and a lot of fish...it was like being in an aquarium.

We ventured into Playa Del Carmen several times which was fun but it's really just a giant flea market type of place. It's good for shopping for trinkets though. We took the ferry over to Cozumel. It's like a 10 minute walk down the beach to reach the ferry from the resort. Cozumel was cool. Rented a scooter and zipped around the island and went to one of the beaches over there. Cozumel downtown is like Playa...a giant flea market but if you get out away, it's pretty neat and there are definitely things to see and hiking, etc. Definitely rent a scooter.

Cabo:
Resort:
We stayed at the Riu Santa Fe. The resort was much larger which we really liked as it gave a variety of places to go, pools to be at, etc. They basically had a pool for everyone. One for heavy partiers that we called the "douchebag bro pool", one that was a bigger one for more family activities and water polo, etc, one that was smaller for older adults looking to party some but not be out of control like the db pool, one that was in the middle resort where the much older people generally hung out. Anyway, having the different pools and spots was nice to get away from certain types of people. The food at this resort was simply OK. Not as good as Playa. The service was outstanding as well. The room was very nice. Basically like you'd expect at a nice hotel. Again, we did not upgrade our room so this was the basic room. The beach was very nice out in front of the resort although in Cabo, the sand is much darker and more course than Playa. The view was amazing as you looked out to the rock structures including "El Arco". The view definitely blew Playa away.

Outside of the resort:
Cabo itself is like an upscale Playa. It's geared towards tourism so there are all the restaurants/bars you'd expect. However, mixed in with that are more traditional places and if you go a few blocks off the main area, you're in real Cabo. We found a place with authentic tacos al pastor that were the most amazing tacos I've ever had. We walked to town from the resort 3 different days once down the beach and another day down the road into town. Never a problem and never felt unsafe in either Cabo or Playa.

We took a sunset sailing cruise out of the marina and around to El Arco and into the Pacific which was really cool. Got to see whales and it was just really a beautiful place. We did not really venture out away from Cabo much on this trip but I'm sure there are places you could go to have a more authentic feel.

Anyway, I'd recommend either Playa or Cabo. Never did I feel unsafe in either location and we were off of the resort all the time in both locations.

Scrapez fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 21, 2015

Comb Your Beard
Sep 28, 2007

Chillin' like a villian.
Is it crazy to do a touring style vacation in Mexico in late July? I really want to attend the Mezcal Festival in Oaxaca then, but it would probably be ungodly hot outside.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

Comb Your Beard posted:

Is it crazy to do a touring style vacation in Mexico in late July? I really want to attend the Mezcal Festival in Oaxaca then, but it would probably be ungodly hot outside.

La Guelaguetza is one of Mexico's best festivals. Oaxaca City never gets ungodly hot, due to its altitude. The Oaxaca coast will be roasting though.

Comb Your Beard
Sep 28, 2007

Chillin' like a villian.
Wow that would be cool to hit La Guelaguetza and Feria Internacional del Mezcal in the same trip, seems like they are about the same time.

I imagine Mexico City, however, would be hot in late July, yeah?

Is Monte Albán worth hitting up? I understand Teotihuacan is a lot bigger?

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

Comb Your Beard posted:

Wow that would be cool to hit La Guelaguetza and Feria Internacional del Mezcal in the same trip, seems like they are about the same time.

I imagine Mexico City, however, would be hot in late July, yeah?

Is Monte Albán worth hitting up? I understand Teotihuacan is a lot bigger?

Mexico City (everyone calls it DF) is at a much higher altitude than Oaxaca City (7400 feet, 2200 meters), and never gets uncomfortably hot. The climate is pretty close to ideal for most of the year. Evenings/nights are chilly year-round there, so you'll want to prepare for that. Also, the air quality can be really bad in and around DF - the pollution is no joke.

I found Monte Albán a bit underwhelming. Teotihuacán is really impressive site, and easily accessible from DF as a daytrip. It's within the massive DF conurbation, so you can be there and back in a day, even using public transportation. If you have time, I'd recommend staying nearby for an evening - you'll have the place to yourself for the first couple of hours after the site opens in the morning.

Comb Your Beard
Sep 28, 2007

Chillin' like a villian.
Thanks for this info. I looked up average temps for both and they were surprisingly not that bad. My wife and I once did a quick trip to Charleston, SC in August one year, if we could handle that sweat-fest, can handle this.

I'll probably stick to my late July target. I want to do a street-food type thing + museums in DF.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

Comb Your Beard posted:

Thanks for this info. I looked up average temps for both and they were surprisingly not that bad. My wife and I once did a quick trip to Charleston, SC in August one year, if we could handle that sweat-fest, can handle this.

I'll probably stick to my late July target. I want to do a street-food type thing + museums in DF.

Oh yeah, I live in DC, and would much rather be in DF during the summer than in this swamp.

DF is one of the best cities in the world for eating, street food or sit-down restaurants, and the cultural offerings like museums are second to none. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's one of the most underrated cities in the world. You can do very well for accommodations there. If you're planning on staying put in DF for a week or so, look at renting a flat from Airbnb in one of the atmospheric neighborhoods like Condesa or Roma. I've lived in DF on a few occasions, and have posted some pretty detailed rundowns on what to do in DF elsewhere on this branch, if you can be bothered to do a search.

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Comb Your Beard
Sep 28, 2007

Chillin' like a villian.
Oh hey TheImmigrant I live in Arlington, work in DC, hit me up at tcassidy07 [at] gmail.com

Wondering if a place like Puerto Escondido would be worthwhile to add a 3rd/4th beachy leg to the trip.

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