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fishmech posted:Texas is full of idiots? I don't see how that's relevant to your repeated defense of outrageous coach salaries and the college sports scam in general. The NFL lets its players kill themselves without even acknowledging a problem. I think people can like something but also want it to change. You are a loving idiot. Alst fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Wuet88 posted:The NFL lets its players kill themselves without even acknowledging a problem. I think people can like something but also want it to change. College sports is also letting people kill themselves only they don't even get paid. He also sees no issue with the ludicrous levels of coach compensation and spending on everything but the athletes. He does not think those things need to change.
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Dude I didn't even get into defending that opinion but nobody wants to read it in this thread. Judging from your rap sheet you are terrible at this anyway and also have little knowledge of the subject matter you just want to make a fiscal statement. Just let it die. vvv posting one Forbes link is not the complete summation of my argument kiimo fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Jun 8, 2017 04:57
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kiimo posted:Dude I didn't even get into defending that opinion but nobody wants to read it in this thread. Judging from your rap sheet you are terrible at this anyway and also have little knowledge of the subject matter you just want to make a fiscal statement. Just let it die. You repeatedly posted things like "but the team is worth so much" to defend it. You got really into defending it. Also Kansas' entire loving problem is people making the wrong fiscal statements which is why the state is loving collapsing under Brownback.
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Without getting into sports specific topics are you somehow under the impression that Self is paid with university or tax dollars? Because he is paid with private donor dollars. Donors who want a successful program. Or are you pissed he's taking advantage of legal tax breaks? Because if so, the answer isn't attacking individuals who take advantage of the law, the problem is the law itself. And one thing I can promise is there is little love lost between Kansas government and ultra liberal University of Kansas. Since you keep changing your point it's hard to stay on track.
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Eh, the athletic association could still use 4mil of that salary to outright poach and buy out two really good researchers and their labs per year and begin fleshing out their research portfolio while still making the coach a millionaire. I think some of this comes down to seeing opportunities to invest in the kind of poo poo that gives a university truly meaningful opportunities to STEM students (grad and undergrad names on published research) while building up a war chest of faculty whose incomes can be directly billed to sponsors interested in the public benefit or industrial applications of their research. Sports spending is fine; I think though that some of us will always fantasize about what else that money could do.
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You missed the point that private donors won't donate as much if their donations go to research. And by the way building renovations for sports teams are from donors as wel. You shouldn't assume sports is taking money from loftier goals. People can spend their discretionary income however they see fit and you shouldn't judge them for spending it on Ball goes into hole just because Brownback hosed up roads and elementary schools. It isn't basketball's fault the good people of Kansas elected morons. Not to mention that basketball is one of the few things in Kansas actually generating money.
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kiimo posted:Without getting into sports specific topics are you somehow under the impression that Self is paid with university or tax dollars? Because he is paid with private donor dollars. Donors who want a successful program. Or are you pissed he's taking advantage of legal tax breaks? He is paid with university dollars if he's being paid from "private donors". His salary is drawn from university accounts. I'm really baffled how you don't understand this. Once again his salary is indefensible and the money should mostly be spent on the actual job of the university. And if donors really did stop spending as much money on the sports program because the man only gets $1 million a year, why the gently caress should anyone care? fishmech fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Stop getting fishmeched you morons What's the chances of Brownback tax policy going national now?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:College sports is overall a scam. Colleges generally lose money on their athletics programs or get convinced to build ridiculous sports buildings they just plain don't need. It's a racket top to bottom but you'll never, ever get rid of it because There's a lot of Hollywood-style creative accounting that happens in colleges, mostly (and especially because of) when it comes to their athletics programs. The reason these athletics departments are building brand new state of the art sports training facilities while the school itself is posting losses or just barely breaking even is because State Colleges are inherently suppose to be non-profit. They have to make these big showy expenditures because if the end of the year comes and they post that they've made 50 million in net profit it endangers their non-profit status for tax and government funding purposes. The money has to be spent somewhere and because sponsorship and ad-revenue dollars are what's bringing in a large chunk of that, may as well put it into the sports facilities rather than the educational ones. Honestly, they really ought to cut the coachs' paychecks in half and distribute that money to the players because those kids are pretty much the only ones not seeing any money out of this whole thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX8BXH3SJn0 Edit: More on topic - Ol Standard Retard posted:
This is the legislator from my district and I really, really liked her at our county democratic party meetings. I hope there isn't foul play or something seeing as how this happened on the eve after this tax plan override. She made it sound like she had a lot to do with convincing the more moderate republicans to turn on Brownback the way she talked about things. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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kiimo. KU sucks.
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DeathSandwich posted:This is the legislator from my district and I really, really liked her at our county democratic party meetings. I hope there isn't foul play or something seeing as how this happened on the eve after this tax plan override. She made it sound like she had a lot to do with convincing the more moderate republicans to turn on Brownback the way she talked about things. I did some digging last night and her family said she died of natural causes. So foul play wouldn't be likely if they're saying that. The wording does make it suspicious as all hell though.
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This was indeed why she was kinda singled out as a good democrat to support. Although I'm not a huge fan of the continuous triangulation and third-waying that the farce of "bipartisanship" tends to produce in the country at large, Terrell was an awesome compromise candidate and it sucks to lose her vote for a variety of progressive issues 
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Bahaha thanks for the avatar, I love it.
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https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/873200405353811969
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Remember, if it fails, it wasn't real conservative ideology.
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It failed because they didn't go far ENOUGH.
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SalTheBard posted:It failed because they didn't go far ENOUGH.
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SalTheBard posted:It failed because they didn't go far ENOUGH. No see the problem is that the Kansas government still existed in any form at all. Just burn the whole thing down and a magical utopia will magically take its place because reasons.
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I see that the failure of the brownback plan was inconvenient constitutional requirements to actually provide an education to children, or do loving anything.
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I'm interested to see how Kris Kobach runs his campaign. So far it looks like his campaign is "I'm a real Conservative, all of these other Republicans are just RINOs, vote them out so I can lower your taxes again."
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Broken Machine posted:Did anyone mention how Brownback's brother is a complete psycho? Holy poo poo. These reads like France c. 1788.
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FilthyImp posted:Well, you see, they cut taxes but forgot to cut spending too so SHAAAAAAAARRRRRRRTTTTTT*~ It's almost as if...things cost money...so you need to collect money to pay for them...?
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SalTheBard posted:I'm interested to see how Kris Kobach runs his campaign. So far it looks like his campaign is "I'm a real Conservative, all of these other Republicans are just RINOs, vote them out so I can lower your taxes again." Probably by restricting the rights of everyone who lives in a city or has a high school diploma from voting
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rscott posted:Probably by restricting the rights of everyone who lives in a city or has a high school diploma from voting Nobody ever banned illiteracy tests...
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Panty Saluter posted:It's almost as if...things cost money...so you need to collect money to pay for them...? *posts the Laffe curve*
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Well, this happened. Congrats Kansas peeps https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/890352915168321536
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Does this mean Kansas can expand Medicaid now?
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CortezFantastic posted:Well, this happened. Congrats Kansas peeps Ah, so we are definitely about to find out just how oppressed white American Christians are, I'm guessing
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