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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

LOL
What a loving moron.




god bless 'em

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
We just lost a great man.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo


Reminder that Castro's Cuba was loving metal.

Kissinger and Ford wet their knickers and tried to hire mercenaries to curb the Cuban intervention.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

TomViolence posted:



Like any other major historical figure Castro can't be boiled down to being merely good or bad. He brought down a US-backed dictator that farmed out Cuba as a mafia-run tourist trap. He sent revolutionary shockwaves through the third world and weathered decades of assassination attempts and blockades by successive US governments. He brought widespread literacy and nationwide access to quality healthcare to Cuba. At the same time he ruthlessly repressed dissent and centralised the power of the state, exiled thousands of Cubans, persecuted homosexuals and cemented an unaccountable bureaucracy that will likely continue to rule the country for the next few decades at least.

With such a sharply polarised legacy I don't know if there's a single source you can go to that could be considered unbiased.

While this is a good snapshot, some of those criticisms deserve more detail.

Castro gets a bad rap for "brutally cracking down" on opposition. Yes, hundreds of counterrevolutionaries were arrested and many sentenced to death This was mainly during the actual revolution from 1959-1961. The Cuban Revolution and the July 26th Movement was a popular uprising and a violent overthrow of an authoritarian regime. Castro cannot solely be blamed for the killing and repression of Batista's backers and henchmen (many of them violent criminals who ultimately belonged in jail). Liberals, trade unionists, socialists, anarchists, and peasants participated in the revolution and supported the arrest and execution of anywhere from 300-2,000 fighters. (There is only concrete evidence of ~300 executions, Western scholars and pundits claim that they number in the thousands).

Treatment of homosexuals: What's often talked about are the "labor camps" of the UMAPs. Some homosexuals, along with conscientious objectors to the Revolution, were sent to agricultural camps as a form of alternative civil service. After 3 years, Castro realized the camps were a mistake and shut them down. By the late 1970s, Castro and the party realized they were being unjust towards gays. Throughout the 80s and 90s gay Cubans began to be treated equally by the state.

Cuban exiles: Castro never expelled people en masse. On the contrary, he made it hard for people to leave the island. Rather, thousands of Cubans, in several waves throughout the decades, decided to flee the country on their own volition. Some of them were aided by the Catholic Church. We can't solely blame Castro for people wanting to flee from the revolution. Furthermore, the vast majority of Cuban exiles were economic migrants rather than political refugees.


I am completely aware that some of this sounds like I'm trying to mask the illiberalism and repression of Castro's rule. I am not.
It is difficult to defend someone like Castro against decades of American interpretations of him. But he should always be viewed as a suis generis political leader of Cuba. Without context, it's easy to see why Americans see him as a brutal dictator. But then we lose understanding of why millions of people around the world consider him a hero. He is both a hero and a villain, both revolutionary and conventional, both a product of his times and completely avant garde, both a traditional Hispanic strongman caudillo and a radically new progressive leader.

Frijolero fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Nov 29, 2016

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

MizPiz posted:

Well, you've had to have done some terrible poo poo in the past to be that compulsively polite and apologetic.

https://twitter.com/commietantric/status/808016141226483713

Jesus Christ in loving heaven.

gently caress liberals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
When did Gavin McInnes become a loving retard? He used to be just a zany, curmudgeon comedian.

Now look at this garbage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjI4rsk9G8k (You can get a good idea on just the first minute and a half)

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