soft tabs are a fucking abomination against computing and i will fight you

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angry_keebler: Jul 16, 2006; In His presence the mountains quake and the hills melt away; the earth trembles and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before His fierce anger?

echinopsis posted:

dat workflo

it's really good

# ? Jun 18, 2015 06:07

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# ? May 4, 2024 07:50

PleasureKevin: Jan 2, 2011

you should use tabs and not spaces.

spaces take 4 backspace presses to undo (or 3 if you set it to that). you can also adjust the width of a hard tab afterwards.

there are some cases, like when writing JSX (HTML embedded in javascript that gets compiled to JS elements in the React framework) where tabs don't line up like

code:

return <div>
            <span className="fart">
        </div>

and the first line is one space off if you use tabs on the subsequent lines and that bugs my OCD, but that's all

thank you

# ? Jun 18, 2015 06:14

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003; Can't post for 3 hours!

angry_keebler posted:

write everything in notepad and then paste into indesign

pretty good strat. u can also shift+ctrl+v to get a context menu on paste, and choose plain or rich text., but sometimes, tat doesnt work, so u haveto use notepad, gedit, or in the most dire circumstance - the url bar of a browser.

# ? Jun 18, 2015 06:14

pram: Jun 10, 2001

total non-issue. go fmt handles this for me

# ? Jun 18, 2015 06:22

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

i can imagine visiting prams house - you appear live a live entirely of convenince. every tool you own and use just does its job perfectly and without pain. your life is a fuckin greased ice cube. i bet you like it like that huh

# ? Jun 18, 2015 07:02

pram: Jun 10, 2001

yeah it owns

# ? Jun 18, 2015 07:11

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

shame about the bowel cancer though

# ? Jun 18, 2015 07:27

the bsd boys: Aug 8, 2011; Can't post for 387 days!

sometimes i get you two confused

# ? Jun 18, 2015 07:36

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i just do whatever the project i'm working on does

# ? Jun 18, 2015 07:38

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

i just do whatever the project i'm working on does

you sea sponge in the tide mother fucker. have some standards my good man

# ? Jun 18, 2015 08:29

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003; Can't post for 3 hours!

i like my tabs like i like the cocks in my mouth: small and soft

# ? Jun 18, 2015 08:56

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Smythe posted:

as a word processor, i often find it difficult to predict tab behavior

# ? Jun 18, 2015 12:10

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

echinopsis posted:

do u do dudes

my neighbour does too. he talks to me about drugs. he assumes i love drugs. anyway he tells me he takes viagra recreationally. i dont get it. he says it increases performance hence his ego regarding bonering

try it one time and you will get it

# ? Jun 18, 2015 12:11

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

i do not give a gently caress whether it's hard or soft tabs, as long as it's auto configured

lol if youre ide or text editor doesn't auto detect what's happening and use it

# ? Jun 18, 2015 12:20

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

new sublime text plugin - tab roulette

randomly insert a hard tab or between 1 and 5 spaces each time you press tab

# ? Jun 18, 2015 12:21

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

8 spaces in a tab, heathens. Everyone has widescreen grandpa 80 columns.

# ? Jun 18, 2015 13:34

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Hard abs look bad in guthub

# ? Jun 18, 2015 15:17

pram: Jun 10, 2001

rename the tab button the fail button (whos in charge of this?) so then its hard fails. because thats what they are

# ? Jun 18, 2015 17:23

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Hard tabs match my hard abs. Please Work Out.

# ? Jun 18, 2015 17:49

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

MrMoo posted:

8 spaces in a tab, heathens. Everyone has widescreen grandpa 80 columns.

this is the most hosed up thing yet......

# ? Jun 18, 2015 20:00

dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

EVGA Longoria posted:

i do not give a gently caress whether it's hard or soft tabs, as long as it's auto configured

lol if youre ide or text editor doesn't auto detect what's happening and use it

trim_trailing_white_space_on_save: true

# ? Jun 18, 2015 20:19

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003; Can't post for 3 hours!

MrMoo posted:

8 spaces in a tab, heathens. Everyone has widescreen grandpa 80 columns.

what the gently caress??

# ? Jun 18, 2015 20:27

Rexicon1: Oct 9, 2007; A Shameful Path Led You Here

what the gently caress is a soft tab you dweebs

# ? Jun 18, 2015 20:38

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Rexicon1 posted:

what the gently caress is a soft tab you dweebs

here i have prepared an infographic to help you:

hth

# ? Jun 18, 2015 20:40

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

pram posted:

total non-issue. go fmt handles this for me

this unironically

(hard tab supremacy)

# ? Jun 18, 2015 23:51

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Cold on a Cob posted:

here i have prepared an infographic to help you:

hth

Added to the op, tyvm

# ? Jun 19, 2015 00:11

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

i was using visual studio a few days ago and it was set up for hard tabs out of the box like a good ide should, but then i started to insert like an if statement or a for loop or something and it automatically indented the line i already had below it which i didn't want so i went to remove the indentation and i had to backspace four spaces

goddamnit ballmer you gently caress

# ? Jun 19, 2015 00:24

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

Smythe posted:

what the gently caress??

it is also VIM's default, so I don't have to change anything. GitHub seems to like it too. If you are running out of screen due to the number of tabs it means your code needs some serious refactoring, clean it up already.

I guess it highly depends on your font, MSVC likes a fat glyph.

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Jun 20, 2015

# ? Jun 20, 2015 10:30

Lime: Jul 20, 2004

elastic tabs supremacy

quote:

This animated diagram shows how the elastic tabstops mechanism aligns text. A tab character is represented as a vertical line.

Each cell ends with a tab character. A column block is a run of uninterrupted vertically adjacent cells. A column block is as wide as the widest piece of text in the cells it contains or a minimum width (plus padding). Text outside column blocks is ignored.

he wrote a plugin for visual studio too, i don't know i've never tried it

# ? Jun 20, 2015 12:07

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Lime posted:

elastic tabs supremacy

he wrote a plugin for visual studio too, i don't know i've never tried it

Thanks for the effort, but Cold on a Cob kinda beat you to the punch...

Cold on a Cob posted:

here i have prepared an infographic to help you:

hth

# ? Jun 20, 2015 12:46

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

Lime posted:

elastic tabs supremacy

he wrote a plugin for visual studio too, i don't know i've never tried it

that's an even better way than hard tabs to make sure your code will always look like poo poo when displayed outside the ide (diff viewers, code review tools etc)

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:01

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

get diff viewer and chode review plugins for the ide then

but yeah while that gif looks awesome it is kind of asking for trouble

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:16

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

lol at the block comments on multiple single lines though :barf:

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:17

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

jony ive aces posted:

lol at the block comments on multiple single lines though

At least he's using Allman style

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:23

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

maniacdevnull posted:

At least he's using Allman style

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:26

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

jony ive aces posted:

get diff viewer and chode review plugins for the ide then

you usually look at diffs when digging through commits history to find out where some weird code is coming from and that's easiest to do it inside of for instance the perforce browser and its time-lapse view
especially if you use a bad ide like visual studio that sucks at browsing the project files as it insists in having its own file tree instead of just displaying the filesystem

for code reviews i want to just click on the link in the review email and get to a web page where i can see the diffs without messing with my running instance of visual studio which already have a hard enough time not to poo poo itself all the time

# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:34

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

get an elastic tabs plugin for ur code review then

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:11

Lime: Jul 20, 2004

i'm surprised no one has done elastic tabs in emacs

is it actually the case that you can't and emacs is in reality a POS??

# ? Jun 20, 2015 16:20

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

it's because aligning your code like

code:

var foobar = 1;
var x      = 2;
var y      = 3;

is for mental children

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karms: Jan 22, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Yam Slacker

comedyblissoption posted:

it's because aligning your code like
code:
var foobar = 1;
var x      = 2;
var y      = 3;
is for mental children

nah its cool

# ? Jun 21, 2015 09:47

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